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The place to talk Marshall University sports! => HerdFans => Topic started by: IM4DHERD on December 03, 2024, 12:52:12 PM
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Keith Morehouse and Luke boh say he said he wants to stay at MU in his Presser. Link doesn't work??
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Money talks
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https://x.com/LukeCreasy/status/1864001848891322450
https://x.com/KeithMorehouse/status/1863999265288208449
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If he wants to stay then he has earned a contract extension and has earned some grace from the fan base (myself included).
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So, shockingly, someone's lying. Either he was offered an extension at least twice or he wasn't.
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Soooooo, we are letting Huff walk after a successful season and bring in Tony Gibson???
Gotta love the Marshall way!
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So, shockingly, someone's lying. Either he was offered an extension at least twice or he wasn't.
It could mean that it hasn?t been presented this week or recently. He also said a few days ago he didn?t want to have these contract discussions during the season. Who knows.
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It could mean that it hasn?t been presented this week or recently. He also said a few days ago he didn?t want to have these contract discussions during the season. Who knows.
It could mean all.sorts of things. He wants to stay, but his wife doesn't. He wants to stay but for a certain price. Etc...
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At this point, I am just sick of all the drama. I love it here, I hate it here, who knows? Let's just go win Saturday and then let the chips fall where they may. What I do know from all the posts and talk is that we have a passionate fan base that wants nothing more than the very best for their beloved Herd.
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It could mean all.sorts of things. He wants to stay, but his wife doesn't. He wants to stay but for a certain price. Etc...
Thinking about that he didn't say they were not in agreement or at a crossroads in negotiations. He said it never presented itself.
I take it as a signal to the Admin that he wants to stay. He may or may not have been offered before and not taken it. But that's beside the point he is saying Today he wants to continue being the coach of MU. Ball in Admin court.
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https://x.com/LukeCreasy/status/1864001848891322450
https://x.com/KeithMorehouse/status/1863999265288208449
If this is correct, and I think that is a big If, that would have to mean that something outside of recruiting, tranining, and performance ON THE field are in play. This report doesn't jive with others I've seen from some places I trust today that says it's not about money for coaches, its about potential money for players. This would mean, and justifiably so IMHO, that Huff sees the real chance at being a winner lying directly at the feet of how much NIL money a unversity has to hire its next set of players. Sad, but i truly believe this is what is at play.
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WTF do you expect him to say????No he does not want to be here a few days before playing for a championship????. He is GONE!
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Thinking about that he didn't say they were not in agreement or at a crossroads in negotiations. He said it never presented itself.
I take it as a signal to the Admin that he wants to stay. He may or may not have been offered before and not taken it. But that's beside the point he is saying Today he wants to continue being the coach of MU. Ball in Admin court.
From what I'm hearing today, in order for this to happen, the Admin would have to be turned down from an outstanding current offer, or pull the offer and give one to Huff. I don't think this is going to happen, sadly for me (and many others, I believe), a really good man is heading out of Huntington soon.
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Soooooo, we are letting Huff walk after a successful season and bring in Tony Gibson???
Gotta love the Marshall way!
This is embarrassing.
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From what I'm hearing today, in order for this to happen, the Admin would have to be turned down from an outstanding current offer, or pull the offer and give one to Huff. I don't think this is going to happen, sadly for me (and many others, I believe), a really good man is heading out of Huntington soon.
Then pull the offer, especially if it?s to Gibson.
Huff > Gibson
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It could also mean Huff over estimated his attraction to other programs. Ending up with no extension from Marshall and only an offer from SoMiss he is faced with beggng for handouts from the hand he bit.
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The Huff slander needs to stop, it's low. He's been a good coach for Marshall, and all fans ever do is complain about either how he doesn't want to be here, his wife or not winning a championship every single season.
We're about to find out just how good we had it.
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The Huff slander needs to stop, it's low. He's been a good coach for Marshall, and all fans ever do is complain about either how he doesn't want to be here, his wife or not winning a championship every single season.
We're about to find out just how good we had it.
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From what I'm hearing today, in order for this to happen, the Admin would have to be turned down from an outstanding current offer, or pull the offer and give one to Huff. I don't think this is going to happen, sadly for me (and many others, I believe), a really good man is heading out of Huntington soon.
I agree.
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Huffs have made it unlikely that MU would consider bringing them back
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And He Should!
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It could also mean Huff over estimated his attraction to other programs. Ending up with no extension from Marshall and only an offer from SoMiss he is faced with beggng for handouts from the hand he bit.
You can't blame him for waiting to see if a P5 offer comes up. Anyone would. At this point, it's here or there. He wants to stay. It's all in the Administration court now.
As Riley says, we could do a lot worse. Especially, if we have to start over. He may be bucking for more $$ from another interested school, by saying this. Who knows, but
he clearly states he would like to stay.
Now we all know from prior actions COTY is a death kneel to his job.
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You can't blame him for waiting to see if a P5 offer comes up. Anyone would. At this point, it's here or there. He wants to stay. It's all in the Administration court now.
As Riley says, we could do a lot worse. Especially, if we have to start over. He may be bucking for more $$ from another interested school, by saying this. Who knows, but
he clearly states he would like to stay.
Now we all know from prior actions COTY is a death kneel to his job.
It appears the decision to part ways was etched in stone long before any COTY was announced.
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Huff is going to have multiple suitors especially if they win the SBC Champ. I wouldn't bet on Southern Miss either unless they lose and he does not get other options but don't be shocked to see him at a P4 next year.
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Embarrassing / ass backwards
Tony Gibson - 15 years ago / he couldn?t stop Cam Fancher and Trickett / very outdated hire
These people calling the shots do not know how to do this right
Charles Huff
Or
Eddie George
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Huffs have made it unlikely that MU would consider bringing them back
Absolute garbage! Huff has made a bad statement here and there. But for the most part, he has represented this university with class. I remember the Ohio State game that the Fox Pre-Game announcers said nothing but good things about Huff including Urban Meyer.
9-3. Players play hard. Players don't quit. We landed some talent in the portal. Best OC hired in a long, long time.
You guys in admin need to quit spending time on this board and look at how you botched the men's basketball program the past three years.
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Huffs have made it unlikely that MU would consider bringing them back
Pillow fight
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If wants Huff to stay, then extend him! Case closed.
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If wants Huff to stay, then extend him! Case closed.
EXACTLY
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This is about to get very interesting for the future?.why because if Sabin takes the WVU job revival of the Coal bowl or something better even. An an outside shot to elevate Marshall status even more and imagine what that may hold for us.
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So, shockingly, someone's lying. Either he was offered an extension at least twice or he wasn't.
Prior to this year he was.
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It could mean all.sorts of things. He wants to stay, but his wife doesn't. He wants to stay but for a certain price. Etc...
Not true! I've talked to Jessica several times, and it's not true that she doesn't want to be here. The Huff's have grown to love Marshall and Huntington. Mrs. Huff told me, she doesn't know how those rumors got started about her dislike for Huntington.
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Maybe he should have appreciated the job he had instead of trying to leave every chance he could. He was offered twice between ND and the end of last season. He refused both. Once the season collapsed he was told win it all or move on.
We'll see what happens on Saturday.
Reading Southern Miss forums they are convinced that he's they're next HC and are mad that their admin is allowing him another week when someone needs to be working the portal.
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Whatever. He is an employee here. He will be an employee somewhere else in the future. Coach's are loyal to their players not schools.
Huff will have some fond memories and some disgruntled memories just like we all do about prior employers.
If he comes back, I'm OK with that. If he leaves, I'll be OK with that too.
Marshall is in my blood, I'll be here no matter what.
If he doesn't leave, I think it shows his market value after last year isn't very high.
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Maybe he should have appreciated the job he had instead of trying to leave every chance he could. He was offered twice between ND and the end of last season. He refused both. Once the season collapsed he was told win it all or move on.
Again you can't blame him for waiting some time out to make more $$ or a P5 job. Anyone would.
Reading Southern Miss forums they are convinced that he's they're next HC and are mad that their admin is allowing him another week when someone needs to be working the portal.
What does post #2 say?
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Not true! I've talked to Jessica several times, and it's not true that she doesn't want to be here. The Huff's have grown to love Marshall and Huntington. Mrs. Huff told me, she doesn't know how those rumors got started about her dislike for Huntington.
Man E aren't you the guy that said CP should have always been #1 QB, and players were saying he is the Best QB on the squad? I can find the post if you like.
I hope you are right about Mrs. Huff ok with the H-Town area, but a lot of smoke in the opposite direction. As for Huff himself, I think he grew accustomed to it.
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If Huff truly wants to stay for a price we can afford, and our administration chooses to go with Gibson or *shudder* Clark because they're WV guys and/or we're too butthurt to bury the hatchet with Huff, that would be inexcusable.
It would be time to start calling for Spears' head and to seriously question if Smith should have any involvement at all with athletics.
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Man E aren't you the guy that said CP should have always been #1 QB, and players were saying he is the Best QB on the squad? I can find the post if you like.
I hope you are right about Mrs. Huff ok with the H-Town area, but a lot of smoke in the opposite direction. As for Huff himself, I think he grew accustomed to it.
You are correct about that. When I said that about Cole, that was way before Braylon Braxton stepped foot in the Joan.
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Not true! I've talked to Jessica several times, and it's not true that she doesn't want to be here. The Huff's have grown to love Marshall and Huntington. Mrs. Huff told me, she doesn't know how those rumors got started about her dislike for Huntington.
Maybe it was when her husband said to be at Marshall means you really like being at Marshall because living in Huntington isn't easy. Paraphrasing, but it was to that affect.
Then there's interviewing for multiple jobs beginning with Duke not even 4 games into your tenure. Maybe the Huff's like it here, but his agent wants more and he's the one constantly putting Huff's name in every opening.
Huff has always wanted to leave. According to Southern Miss fans he is their next HC. Maybe turning down two extension offers in previous seasons and getting involved with a long time conference rivals on the eve of the biggest game to date of your career wasn't smart IF you really wanted to stay.
Also how many coaches over the many years of college football have told everyone they were staying or wanted to stay only to be in negotiations to leave and within days are being introduced at their new job calling that one their dream job or an opportunity to coach such a program as____________is one you can?t pass up.
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This is about to get very interesting for the future?.why because if Sabin takes the WVU job revival of the Coal bowl or something better even. An an outside shot to elevate Marshall status even more and imagine what that may hold for us.
You serious Clark? Saban taking the WVU job? That's a laugher. Why would he want that?
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You are correct about that. When I said that about Cole, that was way before Braylon Braxton stepped foot in the Joan.
E man nice to see you posting again, the board has a hole in it when you aren't active.
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No to Gibson!!!
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Mu never does real searches. Herd going to bottom bc don?t do it right. Jmu going to slap the taste out of our mouth. S Miss will too if Huffs there.
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Pay the man to keep him here. He's earned the extension.
Then get ready for a special 2025 season
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No to Gibson!!!
We agree lol
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I have no knowledge of this but it's starting to feel like Huff was using Southern Miss to leverage a better deal out of us and we told him go ahead then.
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Wonder if the AD will release the full pre-game interview on youtube.
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I have no knowledge of this but it's starting to feel like Huff was using Southern Miss to leverage a better deal out of us and we told him go ahead then.
I worked on a negotiations team over the course of years. Negotiations aren't easy. Two sides are always trying to do what is in their best interest. Negotiations are also not done overnight. Contracts that I have worked with had contracts voted against one or two times before they were ratified. Articles in the contract were rejected.
Just because you say "well we offered him two extensions" doesn't mean jack squat. We don't know the entire stipulations. Buyouts, in this case, are a HUGE matter and aren't done in a week. Right now, Huff has the ball rolling at Marshall. It has been a decade since I had this much excitement. He brought me thrills with some of the notable wins. Marshall needs to be big picture right now and quite frankly, Smith isn't.
And quit bringing the guy's wife into this. I don't even understand that angle. She is the wife of the coach....the mother of his children. Give it a rest. That alone is a bad look on the fanbase.
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I have no knowledge of this but it's starting to feel like Huff was using Southern Miss to leverage a better deal out of us and we told him go ahead then.
Marshall is known for that. When Pruett bluffed trying to get more commitment from the administration and they told him see ya. Marshall's leaders have always been an arrogant bunch. Spears should be the one to leave.
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Marshall is known for that. When Pruett bluffed trying to get more commitment from the administration and they told him see ya. Marshall's leaders have always been an arrogant bunch. Spears should be the would to leave.
I was told that was the reason he ?left ? by former OSU HC John Cooper. We were on a flight together.
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The whole ?we play for championships? seems like just a bunch of crap now. We are literally playing for a championship and not renewing our HC. Making the offer. Publicly let everyone know an offer was extended so huffs agent can?t say one wasn?t and let the chips lay as they will. Fans, myself included will be pissed if we hire Gibson over huff. What?s the point in hiring Gibson? To win a Sunbelt championship or is that too low for us now?
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The whole ?we play for championships? seems like just a bunch of crap now. We are literally playing for a championship and not renewing our HC. Making the offer. Publicly let everyone know an offer was extended so huffs agent can?t say one wasn?t and let the chips lay as they will. Fans, myself included will be pissed if we hire Gibson over huff. What?s the point in hiring Gibson? To win a Sunbelt championship or is that too low for us now?
Exactly!!! Anything other than SB championship by Gibson would be a total failure. Spears would rather start from scratch than drop his pride.
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Marshall is known for that. When Pruett bluffed trying to get more commitment from the administration and they told him see ya. Marshall's leaders have always been an arrogant bunch. Spears should be the one to leave.
the problem was BP was bluffing the wrong guy!! We didnt have a president at that time, just someone keeping time. So BP made his demands ,and the guy said you need to talk to the new guy about all of that!!! I dont have the authority to make that decision
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Exactly!!! Anything other than SB championship by Gibson would be a total failure. Spears would rather start from scratch than drop his pride.
Spears does not have anything to do with this.
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Spears does not have anything to do with this.
So our AD doesn?t get a major say in who our Head Football Coach is?
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WTF do you expect him to say????No he does not want to be here a few days before playing for a championship????. He is GONE!
Ha! And he dreamed of moving to Hattiesburg to rebuild a So Miss program in the shitter.
Oh well I know we can offer better than or same as So Miss so our administration made this happen more than Huff.
I'm sure listening to motor mouth fans made it easier for them to make this call. Hey it may work out but seems like a big risk. Finally get where we want to be and gamble on future. Oh well hope it works hugely. Just doesn't seem necessary.
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Spears does not have anything to do with this.
Then Smith is not so smart when it comes to athletics. But I'm sure those 2 are scrambling to get their story ready as we speak. They have screwed this up so bad they are going to need a doozy to get their story ready fans to buy it.
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So, shockingly, someone's lying. Either he was offered an extension at least twice or he wasn't.
Or it was so insulting that no one would have accepted it. That's my vote.
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Not true! I've talked to Jessica several times, and it's not true that she doesn't want to be here. The Huff's have grown to love Marshall and Huntington. Mrs. Huff told me, she doesn't know how those rumors got started about her dislike for Huntington.
Because she resigned to take care of her kids and the school girl gossip club, here, started chittering.
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Could we at least wait for all the facts before we throw a hissy fit and withhold money from our athletic department?
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Because she resigned to take care of her kids and the school girl gossip club, here, started chittering.
I can truly empathize with this. I have four daughters age 12 to 6, and my wife is a stay-at-home mom. It's a big commitment.
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Could we at least wait for all the facts before we throw a hissy fit and withhold money from our athletic department?
Wi you believe the Soears and Smith made up story?
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People are gonna believe what they want to believe, regardless of what the Huffs or Marshall says. They can tell you everything is great but we don't know if it's true or they are just covering.
Actions speak louder than words.
In all likelihood both parties have some blame in this debacle. Marshall never seems to handle these matters well.
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Or it was so insulting that no one would have accepted it. That's my vote.
Or, while not being insulting, it was just not good enough or the buy-out clauses being too steep.
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So our AD doesn?t get a major say in who our Head Football Coach is?
no.
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no.
is that just a marshall thing? b/c i just saw a 10-second clip of wren baker's presser on the news & he said HE was going to make the best decision he can based on the information he'll have.
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is that just a marshall thing? b/c i just saw a 10-second clip of wren baker's presser on the news & he said HE was going to make the best decision he can based on the information he'll have.
AD's like to say things, but theres not an agent worth his salt in the US that will allow his client, the HFC report to anyone other than the President of the University. The way it is at all big time programs.
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But that's beside the point he is saying Today he wants to continue being the coach of MU. Ball in Admin court.
I think the problem is that the ball is NOT in Admin's court - they've already handed it off with the next guy just waiting a few more days to run with it.