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Offline MU101

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« on: December 19, 2020, 11:19:04 AM »
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  • Why have backup Quarterbacks if you are not going to use them.  After one and half bad games with our starting QB you would think that you would bring in one of your backup QBs.  If I was a backup QB at MU and wanted to play I would enter the transfer portal.
     

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    « Reply #1 on: December 19, 2020, 11:36:27 AM »
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  • They already have.
     
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    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #2 on: December 19, 2020, 11:38:03 AM »
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  • I completely agree. Doc is too stubborn to change QBs. Nothing against Wells who I think is a good QB, but sometimes you need to shake up things when it’s not working.

    Next season, I would like to see either Doc or Cramsey gone or both. Going six quarters without scoring a point at home is beyond ridiculous.
     
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    Offline MicDrass1

    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #3 on: December 19, 2020, 01:20:42 PM »
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  • I completely agree. Doc is too stubborn to change QBs. Nothing against Wells who I think is a good QB, but sometimes you need to shake up things when it’s not working.

    Next season, I would like to see either Doc or Cramsey gone or both. Going six quarters without scoring a point at home is beyond ridiculous.

    7 quarters in a row
     
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    Offline HERDLUVR

    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #4 on: December 19, 2020, 03:39:46 PM »
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  • I completely agree. Doc is too stubborn to change QBs. Nothing against Wells who I think is a good QB, but sometimes you need to shake up things when it’s not working.

    Next season, I would like to see either Doc or Cramsey gone or both. Going six quarters without scoring a point at home is beyond ridiculous.

    At least when Gaines was in at QB, we were moving the football. Why not stick with him and see how it goes? Let's remember that Auburn offered him as a QB!!! They then rescinded to avoid losing a scolly because his grades were not in. So if Doc thought Zban was not ready, stick with Gaines!!
     
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    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #5 on: December 19, 2020, 03:46:30 PM »
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  • Issue is not with Wells. Issue is play calling and in last night game we tried way to hard to feature Gaines and that was our downfall. Should have never went with the wildcat or what they want to call it.


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    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #6 on: December 19, 2020, 04:19:18 PM »
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  • Issue is not with Wells. Issue is play calling and in last night game we tried way to hard to feature Gaines and that was our downfall. Should have never went with the wildcat or what they want to call it.


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    I don't see how you can say the issue is not with Wells.  He has clearly become a head case.  Obviously, he has the skills to be a great QB, the first 7 games showed us that.  But he's got PTSD from the Rice game.  That's not the coaches' fault.  It's their fault that they didn't gameplan that he might have a bad game because of lingering head issues from the Rice game, but his mental state is not their fault.

    Wells was the hometown hero this season, arguably one of the best freshmen QBs in the country, then he has a terrible, devastating game at home in front of his family, his team, his friends, his fans.  That can mess with your head and it appears that it has.  And I hate that for him, would for any 19-year-old kid who's just trying to live out his dream.  Athletically playing well is both a physical and mental exercise.  Until he gets his head back on straight, he's going to struggle.
     

    Offline MicDrass1

    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #7 on: December 19, 2020, 04:23:51 PM »
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  • We do the same plays every game.  That’s the problem at Marshall.  0 identity on offense.  Soft coverage on defense.  Kickers and punters with 0 leg strength and power. 
     

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    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #8 on: December 19, 2020, 04:26:32 PM »
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  • Horrible coaching didn’t even use a timeout for our 2pt attempt.  Just middle school stuff all the time.  Truly junior high stuff.  A junior high school player would use a timeout then.  These dudes don’t got it.
     
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    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #9 on: December 19, 2020, 04:27:33 PM »
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  • Easy. Wells played great all year until Rice. That Rice game we forced the ball to Gaines and made the offense 1 dimensional. You put Wells with another College he does not have the meltdown.


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    Offline MicDrass1

    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #10 on: December 19, 2020, 04:30:24 PM »
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  • The coaches think Keaton and gammage are better than Henry.  Henry plays hard.  The issue is the best players are the Rbs and these junior high coaches do not know how to establish a gameplan using multiple backs. 
     

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    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #11 on: December 19, 2020, 06:26:58 PM »
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  • Issue is not with Wells. Issue is play calling and in last night game we tried way to hard to feature Gaines and that was our downfall. Should have never went with the wildcat or what they want to call it.
     

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    Wells was not playing with confidence so we needed a change, at least to change it up a bit. Gaines did well while he was in at QB. Perfect time to see what Gaines is capable of in an actual game at QB over a few series. I'm not saying we needed a permanent change at QB. What did we have to lose at that point?
     
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    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #12 on: December 19, 2020, 06:28:15 PM »
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  • Gaines was here for 5 years. We knew what he was and wasn’t capable of.


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    Offline herdfifteen

    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #13 on: December 19, 2020, 06:53:20 PM »
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  • I do not feel Wells gets a free pass, some of the throws he makes a junior high school quarterback would not make. He is throwing into triple coverage often because he doesn’t want to take a hit. Sometimes you have to eat the ball, I and most of you were highly critical of Green for doing the same thing, so no, Wells does not get a free pass.
     
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    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #14 on: December 19, 2020, 06:58:09 PM »
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  • I do not feel Wells gets a free pass, some of the throws he makes a junior high school quarterback would not make. He is throwing into triple coverage often because he doesn’t want to take a hit. Sometimes you have to eat the ball, I and most of you were highly critical of Green for doing the same thing, so no, Wells does not get a free pass.

    Coaching corrects those things. This staff does not coach up quarterbacks. Litton never got better, IG got worse and Wells collapsed his last 2 games. I still think Wells could be a really good QB with the right staff.
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    Offline MicDrass1

    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #15 on: December 19, 2020, 07:01:17 PM »
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  • Coaching corrects those things. This staff does not coach up quarterbacks. Lott on never got better, IG got worse and Wells collapsed his last 2 games. I still think Wells could be a really good QB with the right staff.

    That's why you have to change coaches now.  He still has a chance.  But Herd coaches do not do well with player development.  JC Price does!
     
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    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #16 on: December 20, 2020, 12:20:33 AM »
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  • All due respect Fanatic, Wells was not getting it done. A change was needed and Zban didn't seem to be a viable option. If you remember, Rockhead was wasted at TE for 2 years and I'm not comparing Gaines to Rockhead. Just trying to make a point that Doc is reluctant to change anything, even if his ship sinks.
     
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    Re: MU Football
    « Reply #16 on: December 20, 2020, 12:20:33 AM »