Topic: New Orleans Bowl restrictions

[dwaynehinkle]

I don't care what you or anyone else thinks.

Clearly you do, or you wouldn?t find the need to spew it on an internet message board.


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[dwaynehinkle]

I was trying to be nice to you, but you are a clueless know it all. Every state but WV, MS, and now CA, also allow for religious exemptions. So with the stroke of a pen all of those little codes you just threw out become null and void.

So as I said.... Only WV and MS have REQUIRED (with no exemptions) vaccines to attend public schools. CA is now added to the list.

Yeah if it?s the stroke of the pen of the Supreme Court then sure they?re null and void. Under the established interpretation of the constitution the government has to show no reason whatsoever to deny a request for a religious exemption simply because of the compelling interest of public health. The prescient for employer mandates is even weaker. They simply can?t cause ?undue hardship? because of an exemption denial. The Supreme Court has interpreted undue hardship to be anything more than a minimal expense. 


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[herdfan129]

As I said...until COVID...the only two states who truly required vaccines for schools were WV and MS (the two most unhealthy states in the US lol.)

Feel free to stick your head back in the sand and enjoy your own liberal reality I don't care. I'm not wasting my time responding to you anymore on this issue. I've proven you were wrong, but it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things anyway.

[dwaynehinkle]

As I said...until COVID...the only two states who truly required vaccines for schools were WV and MS (the two most unhealthy states in the US lol.)

Feel free to stick your head back in the sand and enjoy your own liberal reality I don't care. I'm not wasting my time responding to you anymore on this issue. I've proven you were wrong, but it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things anyway.

Saying you are still right after being proved wrong repeatedly doesn?t make you any more right than you were to start with.


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[herdfan129]

Saying you are still right after being proved wrong repeatedly doesn?t make you any more right than you were to start with.


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K

[sovine]

K

Ouch. Hit him with the K.


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[wburgherdfan]

OP was right to fear where this thread would go?

[herd1990]

I don't participate in the liberal reindeer games.

I don't care if you get vaccinated or not. To each their own. I believe in personal freedom. If a private business wants to require these mandates then I 100% support their freedom as private individual business owners. I won't patronize their business, but I will support their freedom to do things that I disagree with.

When government entities/municipalities start to mandate these things, that's a totally different situation and that needs to be stopped in its tracks. It's unconstitutional for countless reasons.

Have fun and safe trip for anyone who goes, but I'm not giving in to the "show us your papers" gestapo's that have popped up all across the country.

We didn?t expect you to be heading to the bowl game.  You don?t even go to the home games.

[herdfan129]

We didn?t expect you to be heading to the bowl game.  You don?t even go to the home games.

I've said countless times I enjoy the away games more than I do the home games. The atmosphere for the home games completely SUCKS.

[2xBison]

know why we seldom hear of smallpox and polio and several others? we all took the shots

This vaccine has turned into a political thing and thats not good

well...to be fair there are no vaccine boosters for those diseases you mentioned and to be vaccinated used to mean create immunity....now it conveniently means improve immune response.  we are basically getting COVID shots much like flu shots, and I don't recall them calling annual flu shots vaccines.

[dwaynehinkle]

well...to be fair there are no vaccine boosters for those diseases you mentioned and to be vaccinated used to mean create immunity....now it conveniently means improve immune response.  we are basically getting COVID shots much like flu shots, and I don't recall them calling annual flu shots vaccines.

They?re officially called ?seasonal flu vaccines?. The flu is incredibly tolerant to viral mutations which results in new strains that are resistant to previous vaccines. The flu is a total anomaly among viruses because of how fast it mutates, that the mutations don?t kill it, and there are loads of non human hosts for the flu. The speed in which covid is forming variations and the idea that we know that it?s carried by many non human hosts makes it similar to the flu in that regard. Smallpox for example is only able to be carried by humans, which makes it slower to mutate and spread.


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[2xBison]

And since COVID is carried by animals it will never be eliminated like the diseases he mentioned.  Which is really the point.  Thanks for the additional support.


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[dwaynehinkle]

And since COVID is carried by animals it will never be eliminated like the diseases he mentioned.  Which is really the point.  Thanks for the additional support.


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If it?s able to mutate in the way the flu does, you?re completely right. The worrisome part about it is how much more deadly covid is. For 38 million cases of the flu in the 2019-2020 season 22,000 people died. After the first 38 million cases of covid there were 630,000 deaths.

But I absolutely agree that it will never be completely eradicated. We just have to figure out how to get to the death rate under control 


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[2xBison]

 The good news is flu deaths are way down.  Net out the estimated flu deaths that used to be estimated by the WHO to be 290,000-650,000 annual deaths.

So on a net basis?.


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[bighat]

The vaccines were fast tracked for a reason and a good thing done by President Trump.  All of us oldtimers have the scar for small pox.
Rotary sponsors a program to get rid of the measles.  The only reason people are against it is because of an unrelated political reason which is really screwy because of the fast tracking by the president.  We also ate the sugar cubes for polio.  Military has to take shots.
Screwy reasoning for not taking shots or at least getting tested to save hundreds or thousands of people from getting COVID.  Sort of selfish not selfless.

[MUther]

You can get sick with the vaccine and it is possible to not catch it while not vaccinated.  My dad just got over COVID and had been vaccinated and boosted.  It isn't going to stop anything, either way.  If it works and you have it you have nothing to fear from me without it.  If it doesn't work it doesn't matter if I have it or not.  Either way it doesn't matter if people don't have it.  What does matter is people forcing other people to get it.  None of their damn business because logically it cannot affect them whether one does or does not have the vaccine.  It's a personal choice. 

The vaccines that were mandated on school children were done so because the diseases 1) could be eradicated by proper vaccination and 2) the diseases had secondary effects that were fatal or debilitating.   COVID does not affect school children adversely.  They will not become sterile or unable to walk if they contract  COVID.  They will not die if they contract COVID.  And COVID will not be eradicated if people get the vaccine.  And those mandates occurred before they realized that it was the giving of aspirin for fever that caused the deaths of most of the children affected by many of those affected diseases.

For those that strongly are against mandates, despite what Bison thinks, personal sacrifice (fun) is at the heart of the boycott process.  It is not silly to give up your own measure of fun to support what you believe.  If everyone believed that mandates were a loss of freedom, which they are by definition, and boycotted any business that supported the mandates, those businesses would be run out of the market or be forced to relax their position.  That is the crux of the process and how change happens in America. 

The vaccines may not matter to some folks.  But if the government is allowed to mandate these vaccines and no one stands up against it, then the next mandate will be much easier for them, with precedent, and the next mandate may be something you do care about.  Reap what you sow.