Topic: An important side "factor" in the HERD's bowl game . . .

[coalherd]

. . . is illustrated in the H-Media article today by Luke Creasy, IMO.  Creasy noted that in MU's appearance at the MB Bowl, the attendance given exceed the total combined attendance at the previous TWO MB bowls.  Additionally, the article indicates that MU sold their entire allotment of 5,000 tickets, and from what we're hearing the number of HERD fans present exceeded that number!

To me, this cannot be more positive for MU going forward in several ways.  We are now, as a SBC member an "ESPN School".  We know what that can mean when it comes to some possible good regular season telecasts of HERD games going forward.  Same applies to future Bowl games/matchups, many of which ESPN controls, manages, etc.  Not sure what kind of TV ratings the MB bowl garnered on Monday, given the less than highly desirable time slot.  But I have to think that, absent the HERD managing to land a coveted New Year's Day bowl slot, there will be some fairly decent bowls, perhaps some of those with "pool" matchups who may be looking for an attractive game match-up, say, between a decent Power team from the ACC, or other Power League against a high-quality G-5 school, that MU's fan attendance at MB, along with our overall success this season, would makes Marshall a strong and attractive candidate for such a slot.  And I'm sure that those factors are not lost on the powers that be at ESPN.

2024 offers MU some additional opportunities also with our schedule containing TWO Power opponents, VA Tech and NC State, both from the ACC!  Added bonus being one, against Tech, is at the JOAN, and hopefully ESPN will find a way to give that matchup an important telecast slot somewhere on its networks!

[MUther]

Nearly a million views foran early afternoon game that didn't even incorporate lunchbreak TV viewing.  Not too bad.

[bbcard1]

While I got %^&* all over on some of the reddit groups I pointed this out on after the Notre Dame game, Marshall is a significantly better opponent from a revenue stand point than most other schools. Even the Blue Blood programs can no longer count on sellouts for every game, and Marshall fans travel well. We also spend money, and currently bring a competitive team. Major programs and the communities in which they reside are usually millions of dollars ahead of the game by scheduling Marshall.

[herd2win]

Marshall has great support for the size of the school and the size of Huntington.  Marshall because of the uniqueness of its name and the plane crash, is a Nationally known school.

Much better being called Marshall then to be a directional or state named school.0

[MidlandKnight]

Not academically or at the same level of recognition, but I liken Marshall to Duke. Marshall has more respect outside the state than they do inside. 

[Scottyo614]

Marshall was the only thing that carried Facebook games. You'd see other teams in the 100s watching. We are good for about 750k as a floor on tv. So you can sell ads fairly easy from a business side. The Covid year was interesting seeing tv from everywhere trying to get us on. Us playing App St at 3:30 on CBS says everything about how we are viewed.

From a travel standpoint I've already got Ga St, Coastal and App marked down for next year. App and Ga St could be day trips. If we win, we will come. But, I'd encourage everyone in Huntington to come out. Really there is an amazing opportunity to take this team and brand as far as we want again.

[BigJimslade]

. . . is illustrated in the H-Media article today by Luke Creasy, IMO.  Creasy noted that in MU's appearance at the MB Bowl, the attendance given exceed the total combined attendance at the previous TWO MB bowls.  Additionally, the article indicates that MU sold their entire allotment of 5,000 tickets, and from what we're hearing the number of HERD fans present exceeded that number!

To me, this cannot be more positive for MU going forward in several ways.  We are now, as a SBC member an "ESPN School".  We know what that can mean when it comes to some possible good regular season telecasts of HERD games going forward.  Same applies to future Bowl games/matchups, many of which ESPN controls, manages, etc.  Not sure what kind of TV ratings the MB bowl garnered on Monday, given the less than highly desirable time slot.  But I have to think that, absent the HERD managing to land a coveted New Year's Day bowl slot, there will be some fairly decent bowls, perhaps some of those with "pool" matchups who may be looking for an attractive game match-up, say, between a decent Power team from the ACC, or other Power League against a high-quality G-5 school, that MU's fan attendance at MB, along with our overall success this season, would makes Marshall a strong and attractive candidate for such a slot.  And I'm sure that those factors are not lost on the powers that be at ESPN.

2024 offers MU some additional opportunities also with our schedule containing TWO Power opponents, VA Tech and NC State, both from the ACC!  Added bonus being one, against Tech, is at the JOAN, and hopefully ESPN will find a way to give that matchup an important telecast slot somewhere on its networks!


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[Garbanjo]

. . . is illustrated in the H-Media article today by Luke Creasy, IMO.  Creasy noted that in MU's appearance at the MB Bowl, the attendance given exceed the total combined attendance at the previous TWO MB bowls.  Additionally, the article indicates that MU sold their entire allotment of 5,000 tickets, and from what we're hearing the number of HERD fans present exceeded that number!

To me, this cannot be more positive for MU going forward in several ways.  We are now, as a SBC member an "ESPN School".  We know what that can mean when it comes to some possible good regular season telecasts of HERD games going forward.  Same applies to future Bowl games/matchups, many of which ESPN controls, manages, etc.  Not sure what kind of TV ratings the MB bowl garnered on Monday, given the less than highly desirable time slot.  But I have to think that, absent the HERD managing to land a coveted New Year's Day bowl slot, there will be some fairly decent bowls, perhaps some of those with "pool" matchups who may be looking for an attractive game match-up, say, between a decent Power team from the ACC, or other Power League against a high-quality G-5 school, that MU's fan attendance at MB, along with our overall success this season, would makes Marshall a strong and attractive candidate for such a slot.  And I'm sure that those factors are not lost on the powers that be at ESPN.

2024 offers MU some additional opportunities also with our schedule containing TWO Power opponents, VA Tech and NC State, both from the ACC!  Added bonus being one, against Tech, is at the JOAN, and hopefully ESPN will find a way to give that matchup an important telecast slot somewhere on its networks!


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[coalherd]

Marshall was the only thing that carried Facebook games. You'd see other teams in the 100s watching. We are good for about 750k as a floor on tv. So you can sell ads fairly easy from a business side. The Covid year was interesting seeing tv from everywhere trying to get us on. Us playing App St at 3:30 on CBS says everything about how we are viewed.

From a travel standpoint I've already got Ga St, Coastal and App marked down for next year. App and Ga St could be day trips. If we win, we will come. But, I'd encourage everyone in Huntington to come out. Really there is an amazing opportunity to take this team and brand as far as we want again.

With no Florida schools in the SBC, at least we have two in Georgia, another State that MU traditionally has recruited with fairly good success over the years.  We'll always have, as it currently stands, on regular season game in the Peach State.  Hopefully, Coach Huff and his staff will make hitting that State hard a recruiting priority going forward.

[whf]

I understand it probably won't happen, but i'd love to see SBC reconsider and add WKU to the league. They have deep fan support from loyal fans, just like us. They have a super basketball arena and history, and have earned legitimacy on the football field in the last two decades as well.  And they are in the same kind of geographic condition as many of the SBC schools. We, IMHO, need that more local rivalry. If we had App State, WKU and JMU, that would be an exciting four weeks of football expectation.

[Scottyo614]

I understand it probably won't happen, but i'd love to see SBC reconsider and add WKU to the league. They have deep fan support from loyal fans, just like us. They have a super basketball arena and history, and have earned legitimacy on the football field in the last two decades as well.  And they are in the same kind of geographic condition as many of the SBC schools. We, IMHO, need that more local rivalry. If we had App State, WKU and JMU, that would be an exciting four weeks of football expectation.

One thing you'd have to consider is they wouldn't be on our side of the conference in SBC. I know that sounds weird, but even if you brought a Mo St and WKU in or some combination, Troy would come East. It would spread the west out too far. From a geography standpoint WKU made sense in CUSA. It doesn't for the Sun Belt.

We have to keep in mind, Monroe sacrificed a ton to make the conference. It's now time we build them up. Them getting USM west was a big deal to reduce cost.

[2xBison]

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[herdorbust2]

I understand it probably won't happen, but i'd love to see SBC reconsider and add WKU to the league. They have deep fan support from loyal fans, just like us. They have a super basketball arena and history, and have earned legitimacy on the football field in the last two decades as well.  And they are in the same kind of geographic condition as many of the SBC schools. We, IMHO, need that more local rivalry. If we had App State, WKU and JMU, that would be an exciting four weeks of football expectation.

They should have been added. It's dumb not to have them back in the SB.

[whf]

One thing you'd have to consider is they wouldn't be on our side of the conference in SBC. I know that sounds weird, but even if you brought a Mo St and WKU in or some combination, Troy would come East. It would spread the west out too far. From a geography standpoint WKU made sense in CUSA. It doesn't for the Sun Belt.

We have to keep in mind, Monroe sacrificed a ton to make the conference. It's now time we build them up. Them getting USM west was a big deal to reduce cost.

I see your point, but I don't think that would be a given because of the locality of Troy to the southern teams in Alabama and MS.  Even if they were in the west, we'd have a super good rivalry with them in roundball and other sports, and play often in football.  I don't think they make any sense in C-USA; they're a rural community in the heart of the rural region of a most rural state.  That isn't the C-USA model, as I understand it anyway.

[TomorrowHERD]

As I understand it, the old guard of the SBC did not want them back after they had already left once...

[Scottyo614]

As I understand it, the old guard of the SBC did not want them back after they had already left once...

That's a lot of it. I believe they are more open to WKU than others. I'm not sure people realize the bad blood the Louisiana schools, Troy and Arkansas St share over La Tech, MTSU, and FIU. Especially La Tech.

[Ovaltine Jenkins]

Switching out Arkansas State and Texas State for WKU and ECU would be nice.

[MUther]

I prefer not to elevate WKU.  I also believe that they only siphon off our income and would not increase the overall financial deal the way an ECU or Memphis would.  We should not add anyone, at this point, that doesn't increase our bottom line.  And there is no one available that would do so at this time.

[coalherd]

I understand it probably won't happen, but i'd love to see SBC reconsider and add WKU to the league. They have deep fan support from loyal fans, just like us. They have a super basketball arena and history, and have earned legitimacy on the football field in the last two decades as well.  And they are in the same kind of geographic condition as many of the SBC schools. We, IMHO, need that more local rivalry. If we had App State, WKU and JMU, that would be an exciting four weeks of football expectation.

Speaking of WKU, anyone notice that they pretty much demolished a good SBC team, South Alabama, 44-23 in the New Orleans Bowl.  Once again, WKU head coach, Helton, found a QB, Austin Reed, this time from West Florida, a D-2 school, who proceeded to put up a phenomenal number of passing yards and TDs this season, nearly at the top of D1 ball.  Year in and year out coaches and offensive coordinators seem to come and go down in Bowling Green, yet their offences seem to continue to hum right along at a very high level.  I'd like to see Huff take a few tips on what they are doing, what kind of O they are operating down at WKU and certainly come up with a system that avoids another year of an anemic passing attack that MU had this season.  Could you imagine what we would/could have done with a similar offense at MU this season to go along with our D?  Makes one want to shake his head.

[herdfan129]

Speaking of WKU, anyone notice that they pretty much demolished a good SBC team, South Alabama, 44-23 in the New Orleans Bowl.  Once again, WKU head coach, Helton, found a QB, Austin Reed, this time from West Florida, a D-2 school, who proceeded to put up a phenomenal number of passing yards and TDs this season, nearly at the top of D1 ball.  Year in and year out coaches and offensive coordinators seem to come and go down in Bowling Green, yet their offences seem to continue to hum right along at a very high level.  I'd like to see Huff take a few tips on what they are doing, what kind of O they are operating down at WKU and certainly come up with a system that avoids another year of an anemic passing attack that MU had this season.  Could you imagine what we would/could have done with a similar offense at MU this season to go along with our D?  Makes one want to shake his head.

No wayyyy? a D2 QB was one of the best FBS QBs this year? Remember when everyone said Tyson Bagent couldn?t do that cause he played D2 lol

[coalherd]

Was Bagent still at Shepherd this past season?  Which seems to have been his 7th year or so in college.  I believe he has a younger brother who is a QB also.

[sardistim]

WKU keeps getting good QBs and creative OCs because they are committed to a wide open passing offense.  Slinging QBs want to go to programs that let them sling the ball.  AND great WRs want to go to those schools as well.

We got Kresser, Leftwich, and Hill as well as Moss, Watts, James Williams, Davis and more because we were in a pro-style, lots of passing offenses.  (Pennington was not highly recruited so I left him off.)

After Snyder and Doc (minus the Cato years) and now Huff's 2nd year, it's a tough sell to get the best passing QBs and best WRs.  What WR wants to block 4/5ths of the time instead of catching TDs and having a 1,000 yards receiving season.

I was hoping Wells was going to return us to the land of exciting offenses again, but his undisciplined play killed that.

[MUther]

No wayyyy? a D2 QB was one of the best FBS QBs this year? Remember when everyone said Tyson Bagent couldn?t do that cause he played D2 lol

Yeah cause D2 Florida and D2 WV are the same thing.  Division 2 schools generally recruit locally.  There's a giant talent gap.  And while Reed was recruited up and out, Bagent got no offer good enough to leave Shepherd for.  It's apples and oranges all day long.  The people that assess these players know the difference.

[herdfan129]

Yeah cause D2 Florida and D2 WV are the same thing.  Division 2 schools generally recruit locally.  There's a giant talent gap.  And while Reed was recruited up and out, Bagent got no offer good enough to leave Shepherd for.  It's apples and oranges all day long.  The people that assess these players know the difference.

That just shows how little you know. Shepherd has played for national championships and is an annual contender. Furthermore, Bagent won the D2 Heisman the same year this guy from West Florida was still there. What does that mean? Everyone who actually follows D2 football thought Bagent was better than him.

Also, Shepherd doesn?t play in the WVIAC anymore. They play in the PSAC which is a stronger football conference.

[muherd34]

That just shows how little you know. Shepherd has played for national championships and is an annual contender. Furthermore, Bagent won the D2 Heisman the same year this guy from West Florida was still there. What does that mean? Everyone who actually follows D2 football thought Bagent was better than him.

Also, Shepherd doesn?t play in the WVIAC anymore. They play in the PSAC which is a stronger football conference.

0 doubt in my mind that Bagent would have been a major upgrade.