Topic: Men's basketball commitment

[marshallmark]

Well I'm sure he did against our . But who else did he bitch slap?

he had a few good games in the mid-teens in scoring.  He's certainly not the least effective player on our radar. 

[herdorbust2]

he had a few good games in the mid-teens in scoring.  He's certainly not the least effective player on our radar.

Then that is sad to hear. Wonder why we are going after so many low hangers?

[The Right Stuff]

Maybe those are the type of players that want to come here. I would think most want a chance to play in the post season and we haven't been too successful in that area lately.  I don't think we will be in the running for those averaging a double double.

TRS
MU 71

[mubowhunter]

Would we be better off of going after guys at a lower level who averages 20-25 ppg or someone who plays at a mid-major averaging 2-7 ppg?  Our recruiting strategy is extremely suspect!

[herdorbust2]

Would we be better off of going after guys at a lower level who averages 20-25 ppg or someone who plays a mid-major averaging 2-7 ppg?  Our recruiting strategy is extremely suspect!

Honestly do we even have a recruiting strategy?

[mubowhunter]

Honestly do we even have a recruiting strategy?

Just wing it sounds pretty good.

[herdfan129]

Just playing devils advocate, I have no idea?

Maybe he played better against us because he fits our style of play better than he does Texas St style of play? No idea, just wondering out loud.

[wlf]

I'm not even aggravated anymore, just sad, like being a Reds fan. We surely should have stayed in the MAC.

[herd2win]

Name a team who has made the NCAA in the last 3 years that we have beat out for a recruit...

[scope58]

Maybe those are the type of players that want to come here. I would think most want a chance to play in the post season and we haven't been too successful in that area lately.  I don't think we will be in the running for those averaging a double double.

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MU 71

Go after top Division 2 players

[Herdalum83]

Go after top Division 2 players

Yeah, I'd much rather have a D2 guy that averaged 20 and 8 than a mid-major guy that averaged 8 and 5. D2 guy will also have more to prove moving up to D1 and play with a chip on his shoulder most likely

[MicDrass1]

He needs 35 new ppg to have a chance to win the SBC

[Buffalo Bop]

https://twitter.com/ScoopsHerd/status/1650626552025972737?s=20

[herdorbust2]

https://twitter.com/ScoopsHerd/status/1650626552025972737?s=20

Not going to move the needle either way.

[coalherd]

Wonder if Bill Walton has ANY eligibility left?  Lord knows, even at his age, I'd feel better about the HERD's chances than with most of the crowd being discussed here whom Danny has at his disposal, as of right now!!

[yogiherd]

Wonder if Bill Walton has ANY eligibility left?  Lord knows, even at his age, I'd feel better about the HERD's chances than with most of the crowd being discussed here whom Danny has at his disposal, as of right now!!

Swen Nater(SP?) might have a little eligibility left if he's still around.

[coalherd]

Swen Nater(SP?) might have a little eligibility left if he's still around.

Heck, yogiherd, are we absolutely sure that former HERD Big Man Fan Favorite, Willie Willcox, has truly used up ALL of his eligibility??

[DC01HERD]

Not going to move the needle either way.

We need guys that can play. We already have a bench full of guys that can't get off the bench.

[herd247]

Name a team who has made the NCAA in the last 3 years that we have beat out for a recruit...

Went back a little bit further because I was interested too.  I included some earlier years than their first year with us because that would've played into their recruiting decision and then I included years since they've been at Marshall since those are NCAA tourney teams.

2018 - Cam Brooks-Harris...beat out Akron, NCAA 2022. NKU, NCAA 2019, 2023, Kent St, NCAA 2017, 2023, Cleveland St., NCAA 2021

2019 - Chase McKey...beat out Old Dominion, NCAA 2019, Winthrop, NCAA 2017, 2021

2019 - Dajour Rucker...beat out Richmond, NCAA 2022, Old Domininion, NCAA 2019

2020 - David Early...beat out Ohio, NCAA 2021

2020 - Obinna Anochili-Killen...beat out Akron, NCAA 2022, Cincinnati, NCAA 2018, 2019, Dayton, NCAA 2017, Drexel, NCAA 2021, Kent St, NCAA 2017, 2023, Temple, NCAA 2019, Old Dominion, NCAA 2019, Rhode Island, NCAA 2017, 2018, VCU, NCAA 2017, 2019, 2021, 2023, Penn St, NCAA 2023, ETSU, NCAA 2017, Ohio, NCAA 2021

2022 - Jacob Conner...beat out Belmont, NCAA 2019, Mt Saint Mary's, NCAA 2021, Winthrop, NCAA 2021, Wright St, NCAA 2022, NKU, NCAA 2019, 2023, Ohio, NCAA 2021, Bryant, NCAA 2022

[Flat Tire 2]

Went back a little bit further because I was interested too.  I included some earlier years than their first year with us because that would've played into their recruiting decision and then I included years since they've been at Marshall since those are NCAA tourney teams.

2018 - Cam Brooks-Harris...beat out Akron, NCAA 2022. NKU, NCAA 2019, 2023, Kent St, NCAA 2017, 2023, Cleveland St., NCAA 2021

2019 - Chase McKey...beat out Old Dominion, NCAA 2019, Winthrop, NCAA 2017, 2021

2019 - Dajour Rucker...beat out Richmond, NCAA 2022, Old Domininion, NCAA 2019

2020 - David Early...beat out Ohio, NCAA 2021

2020 - Obinna Anochili-Killen...beat out Akron, NCAA 2022, Cincinnati, NCAA 2018, 2019, Dayton, NCAA 2017, Drexel, NCAA 2021, Kent St, NCAA 2017, 2023, Temple, NCAA 2019, Old Dominion, NCAA 2019, Rhode Island, NCAA 2017, 2018, VCU, NCAA 2017, 2019, 2021, 2023, Penn St, NCAA 2023, ETSU, NCAA 2017, Ohio, NCAA 2021

2022 - Jacob Conner...beat out Belmont, NCAA 2019, Mt Saint Mary's, NCAA 2021, Winthrop, NCAA 2021, Wright St, NCAA 2022, NKU, NCAA 2019, 2023, Ohio, NCAA 2021, Bryant, NCAA 2022

Well the above doesn't represent outstanding recruiting by the MU staff.  OBK and Early are Division I material. I guess the jury is out on McKey who averaged 1.8ppg two years ago and Conner averaged 5ppg this last season. One of the other players is at a Divsion II school and the other at a NAIA school. Ouch. 

Found the below link to Dajour Rucker who ended up Virginia State a Division II school. He averaged 6ppg in the 21-22 season and 4.74ppg in 22-23 season. Just goes to show that some guys never pan out.
https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Dajour-Rucker/Summary/148698

Found the link to Cam Brooks-Harris. He left MU for Barton CC and then on to Georgetown College an NAIA school where he averaged 9.74ppg in the 21-22 season. No statics for the 22-23 season.
https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Cam-Brooks-Harris/Summary/139779

[herd247]

Well the above doesn't represent outstanding recruiting by the MU staff.  OBK and Early are Division I material. I guess the jury is out on McKey who averaged 1.8ppg two years ago and Conner averaged 5ppg this last season. One of the other players is at a Divsion II school and the other at a NAIA school. Ouch. 

Found the below link to Dajour Rucker who ended up Virginia State a Division II school. He averaged 6ppg in the 21-22 season and 4.74ppg in 22-23 season. Just goes to show that some guys never pan out.
https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Dajour-Rucker/Summary/148698

Found the link to Cam Brooks-Harris. He left MU for Barton CC and then on to Georgetown College an NAIA school where he averaged 9.74ppg in the 21-22 season. No statics for the 22-23 season.
https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Cam-Brooks-Harris/Summary/139779

Answered the original question regarding who we beat out for recruiting.  All of those guys are D1 talent because they all had multiple D1 offers (sometimes it doesn't work out). In 2022 526 D1 basketball players entered portal and did not play again at the D1 level. 

https://www.ncaa.org/news/2023/2/21/media-center-2022-transfer-trends-released-for-divisions-i-and-ii.aspx

It's almost like you are mad because the answers don't match the narrative you want to spew out without substance.

[Flat Tire 2]

Answered the original question regarding who we beat out for recruiting.  All of those guys are D1 talent because they all had multiple D1 offers (sometimes it doesn't work out). In 2022 526 D1 basketball players entered portal and did not play again at the D1 level. 

https://www.ncaa.org/news/2023/2/21/media-center-2022-transfer-trends-released-for-divisions-i-and-ii.aspx

It's almost like you are mad because the answers don't match the narrative you want to spew out without substance.

Please, I was just pointing out that if a player supposedly has Division I offers, it doesn't mean they will succeed at that level. Its up to the coaching staff to determine if a player can contribute to the team and his team's style of play.   FWIW, I really wonder if all the "offers" were real. When a player ends up on the bench of a Division II school or at a NAIA school, you have to wonder about the coach's ability to evaluate talent. That seems to be a recurring problem with dan, just look at his bench.  I am just concern like other posters that dd is not a good recruiter. As ole Sonny Randle use to say, you gotta have chicken to make chicken salad.