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Offline lukerubin12

Article about OAK's increased production
« on: February 14, 2024, 02:23:13 PM »
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  • Been writing Men's Basketball articles for the Thundercast Pod. Wanted to share my latest one about Obinna's massive leap this season. Really dove into the numbers to break down where the production is coming from and kept coming back to increased 3-point efficiency and FT rate. I really expanded on it in here. Would love for you guys to take a look and let me know your thoughts.

    http://thundercast.online/how-has-obinna-anochili-killen-made-such-a-massive-leap-this-season/

    I'm also attaching some of the previous articles I've written.

    http://thundercast.online/top-10-wins-of-the-coach-dan-dantoni-era/
    http://thundercast.online/marshall-vs-texas-state/
    http://thundercast.online/has-marshall-basketball-found-its-identity/


     
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    Article about OAK's increased production
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    Re: Article about OAK's increased production
    « Reply #1 on: February 14, 2024, 03:34:06 PM »
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  • OAK going from 14% to 38% from deep is one of the strangest turnarounds I've ever seen. He reminds me of Beyers at times with a tendency to get absolutely out of control and cause unnecessary turnovers, but it's hard to blame him because almost nobody else on our team can shoot or create well enough. Glad he's having a successful season individually.

    But it's insane that we continue to shoot so many threes (30th nationally) while being so consistently bad at it (304th nationally by percentage). After OAK, our 2nd best three-point shooter is Conner at 33.8%, a number that's worse than the total three-point percentage of 186 teams.

    The overall lack of talent was always going to kill this team, but continuing to jack up threes when it's clearly one of our weaknesses is just another failure of Danalytics. Our offense should always run through Martin and needs more penetrating from Voyles and Crawford because they're the only two on our team capable of that.
     
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    Re: Article about OAK's increased production
    « Reply #2 on: February 14, 2024, 03:50:51 PM »
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  • OAK going from 14% to 38% from deep is one of the strangest turnarounds I've ever seen. He reminds me of Beyers at times with a tendency to get absolutely out of control and cause unnecessary turnovers, but it's hard to blame him because almost nobody else on our team can shoot or create well enough. Glad he's having a successful season individually.

    But it's insane that we continue to shoot so many threes (30th nationally) while being so consistently bad at it (304th nationally by percentage). After OAK, our 2nd best three-point shooter is Conner at 33.8%, a number that's worse than the total three-point percentage of 186 teams.

    The overall lack of talent was always going to kill this team, but continuing to jack up threes when it's clearly one of our weaknesses is just another failure of Danalytics. Our offense should always run through Martin and needs more penetrating from Voyles and Crawford because they're the only two on our team capable of that.

    Gochneaur - I total agree - if OAK was shooting like the past 2 years we would really have a bad record. 

    What I absolutely DO NOT understand is why Jacob Conner is playing PG at 6'10 - Danny nor anyone can else can convince me that a coach can't create a lot better offense with Martin at center and 4 other 6'8 plus players - instead of shooting 3's -  (if you have those kind of GUARDS then ok......   Just mind boggling!!   
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    Re: Article about OAK's increased production
    « Reply #3 on: February 14, 2024, 04:42:26 PM »
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  • OAK going from 14% to 38% from deep is one of the strangest turnarounds I've ever seen. He reminds me of Beyers at times with a tendency to get absolutely out of control and cause unnecessary turnovers, but it's hard to blame him because almost nobody else on our team can shoot or create well enough. Glad he's having a successful season individually.

    But it's insane that we continue to shoot so many threes (30th nationally) while being so consistently bad at it (304th nationally by percentage). After OAK, our 2nd best three-point shooter is Conner at 33.8%, a number that's worse than the total three-point percentage of 186 teams.

    The overall lack of talent was always going to kill this team, but continuing to jack up threes when it's clearly one of our weaknesses is just another failure of Danalytics. Our offense should always run through Martin and needs more penetrating from Voyles and Crawford because they're the only two on our team capable of that.

    Totally agree with this. The chucking of 3s dooms this offense, but it is really because of the lack of true shot creators and play makers. Voyles is probably our best shot creator off the bounce, but he is super inconsistent with it and is shooting terribly from deep. Conner is a serviceable lead guard, but plays super timid. Curfman chucks and is a great shooter, but without a true playmaker he isn't able to get as many clean looks and thus why is %s are down. We need to spam PnR with Martin and feed him in the low block. Wish we saw more of that.
     
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    Re: Article about OAK's increased production
    « Reply #4 on: February 14, 2024, 09:45:02 PM »
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  • OAK going from 14% to 38% from deep is one of the strangest turnarounds I've ever seen. He reminds me of Beyers at times with a tendency to get absolutely out of control and cause unnecessary turnovers, but it's hard to blame him because almost nobody else on our team can shoot or create well enough. Glad he's having a successful season individually.

    But it's insane that we continue to shoot so many threes (30th nationally) while being so consistently bad at it (304th nationally by percentage). After OAK, our 2nd best three-point shooter is Conner at 33.8%, a number that's worse than the total three-point percentage of 186 teams.

    The overall lack of talent was always going to kill this team, but continuing to jack up threes when it's clearly one of our weaknesses is just another failure of Danalytics. Our offense should always run through Martin and needs more penetrating from Voyles and Crawford because they're the only two on our team capable of that.

    Not really to me. He had one decent year from beyond the arc earlier in his career but my salient point was that he wasn't missing by much most of the time earlier. I even posted that sentiment. Now he's got the form down and not "guiding" the ball. "Stroke it don't poke it." - Young Johnny Carson guest - pocket billiard savant/phenom
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    Re: Article about OAK's increased production
    « Reply #5 on: February 14, 2024, 11:35:05 PM »
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  • pre-season many of us 'veteran fans' said Obinna would be one of the keys to a decent season.  no, it's no crystal ball or self agrandizing pat on the back.  it's common sense and as a matter of fact, any upperclassmen in any year are expected to lead, come into the season prepared and be bigger, faster, stronger and better than the previous years.  credit Obinna and to some extent, coaches for providing guidance about his role and solutions of how to fit in and succeed- it was a nice advance.

    that said, .500 or below is terrible and disappointing as a whole team, including coaches.  imho, recruiting as a whole ruined last years chances and was obviously not near enough so far this year.

    many of us also said Obinna was one of the better direct, true freshmen recruits (not transfers or other) in the DD era. 

    so, i thank Obinna for improving.  at least he did
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    Re: Article about OAK's increased production
    « Reply #6 on: February 15, 2024, 08:49:45 AM »
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  • Early in Danny's tenure he recruited guards.  Somewhere along the line he fell in love with tall thin players who can jump out of the gym, but can't consistently hit a 3-point shot, and lack lateral quickness.  He signed two more players with that same profile in the early signing period. 

    Ironically, Danny's best teams were lead by guards like Elmore, Burks, West, Kinsey, Watson and Browning. 
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    Offline MicDrass1

    Re: Article about OAK's increased production
    « Reply #7 on: February 15, 2024, 09:40:08 AM »
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  • We lost to much scoring from last year and it wasn?t replaced. 
     
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    Offline parshall2marshall

    Re: Article about OAK's increased production
    « Reply #8 on: February 15, 2024, 10:05:53 AM »
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  • We are where many of us we thought we'd be. Not to run it into the ground but again I thought we'd "have a legitimate shot at .500". Martin and Voyles have performed as well or better than we had expected. But, yes, we lost the firepower of Kinsey and Taylor, and we had a rim protector and solid rebounder in Handlogten. While Fricks has not really developed yet as I had hoped. We pretty much knew we lacked lateral quickness.
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    Re: Article about OAK's increased production
    « Reply #9 on: February 15, 2024, 07:45:47 PM »
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  • Right now, HERD down to APPY and can't hit "drek" from the field, and radio guys said OAK IS 1 for 12 from the field, including having a three-pointer blocked!!  We can't stop one ASU player, Gregory, who is heading for a career scoring high!
     

    Offline parshall2marshall

    Re: Article about OAK's increased production
    « Reply #10 on: February 15, 2024, 08:00:00 PM »
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  • OAK really knows how to make my posts look bad. He hasn't met a shot he doesn't like tonight.
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    Re: Article about OAK's increased production
    « Reply #11 on: February 15, 2024, 08:17:47 PM »
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  • I think the article was written at the entirely wrong time, he has a "o...fer" night.
     
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