Topic: NCAA says Marijuana is Legal

[svherd]

I was in LA last week for a meeting. One of big stories was a guy high on pot, hitting and killing a pedestrian. If it were liquor, would it have been a story?

[herd2win]

Just read the story you're talking about. It was all about having too many dispensaries opening up in certain neighborhoods. Doesn't mean weed is bad or people there are regretting making it legal.

Most recent polling in Colorado (the whole state, not just Denver) shows 71% support for weed legalization over a decade after it's been legal. Support has gone up over that time. I was there 6 or 7 years after it had become legal.

Denver declared a homeless emergency this year and there were a record 311 deaths so to drugs and crime hit an all time high.  Anyone with a brain cannot say Denver is a nicer place to live now verses prior to legalized pot.

They had to hide the drugs and homeless and did a street sweep to make it look better for the all star game.

[Big Ol' Hillbilly]

[Johnnyherd]

That says a lot more about your in-laws than it does anything else. Sounds like they're gonna continue to be that way no matter what. I hang out with people who smoke weed every day while holding down six figure jobs and raising great families. Responsible people will enjoy things while being responsible, and losers will be losers no matter what substance they are or aren't on.

Well since you have a couple high income friends that smoke marijuana daily then all is well.   What percent of daily marijuana users make 200,000k,

Im gonna be generous and say 2 percent, although I bet its less than 1 percent 

WV is a welfare state only 1 out of 4 adults work and earn income, but that doesn?t stop them from breeding. 

Adding another addiction to their lives will surely be good for everyone, especially children.

it will be awesome to have an ultra supply for the school systems too. 

What do you do for a living?

[gochneaur645]

Denver declared a homeless emergency this year and there were a record 311 deaths so to drugs and crime hit an all time high.  Anyone with a brain cannot say Denver is a nicer place to live now verses prior to legalized pot.

They had to hide the drugs and homeless and did a street sweep to make it look better for the all star game.

Every city in America is experiencing similar problems. Especially ones that are growing really fast. Has everything to do with a combination of exponentially rising housing costs and a lack of mental health services. The problem is also hitting cities harder because rural areas literally throw their homeless on a bus and drop them off in cities. Texas had just started doing this to Austin when I lived there about 10 years ago. Massive homeless problem there then and now in a state where pot isn't legal.

The drugs that do contribute to these problems are the opioids. Nobody goes from normal to homeless because of pot.

And you've had time to write a couple more posts, but still no sources for the made up claim about studies showing "dependent culture and lower productivity."

[Johnnyherd]

Here?s a published study that you asked about.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/124806/long-term-cannabis-blunt-brains-motivation-system/#:~:text=Researchers%20found%20that%20dopamine%20levels,or%20pursue%20their%20normal%20interests.

Also, I went to college I have seen guys baked that couldn?t even talk, they?d speak gibberish and laugh

Could he work a 12 hour shift?  Maybe pilot an airplane, lol.



Are you one of those pot-lovers that will say anything to win? 

[MicDrass1]

Glad don?t have to worry about athletes pissing pot positive anymore. 

[herdthatandrew]

What's the average age on this board? These are some wildly dated takes. Meanwhile it's completely acceptable for folks to be stumbling around drunk off their ass to watch these kids play on Saturdays.

[Flat Tire 2]

What is the difference in being drunk or doped up? Some can have a drink or two and not be drunk, but the whole purpose of smoking dope or doing drugs is to get high. I guess the fast food places around the stadium will have a great increase in business due to the smokers having the munchies?

[MUther]

Well since you have a couple high income friends that smoke marijuana daily then all is well.   What percent of daily marijuana users make 200,000k,

Im gonna be generous and say 2 percent, although I bet its less than 1 percent 

WV is a welfare state only 1 out of 4 adults work and earn income, but that doesn?t stop them from breeding. 

Adding another addiction to their lives will surely be good for everyone, especially children.

it will be awesome to have an ultra supply for the school systems too. 

What do you do for a living?

Dude, they're high now.  They get it whenever they want.  The only difference is society doesn't benefit from it through taxation.  No one that wants to smoke marijuana doesn't know where to get it and no one considers the illegality of it when choosing to use it.  I haven't touched it in more than 15 years but I could go get it in 15 minutes if I decided to. Nothing changes with legality except the source, the quality, and the benefits to the state's coffers.  And the edibles are available in dispensaries so that people don't even have to smoke it.  With legality, there are funds available to police youth, as with alcohol and cigarettes, to limit their access.  Underground drug dealers don't ID customers.  Dispensaries do.

[Johnnyherd]

Dude, they're high now.  They get it whenever they want.  The only difference is society doesn't benefit from it through taxation.  No one that wants to smoke marijuana doesn't know where to get it and no one considers the illegality of it when choosing to use it.  I haven't touched it in more than 15 years but I could go get it in 15 minutes if I decided to. Nothing changes with legality except the source, the quality, and the benefits to the state's coffers.  And the edibles are available in dispensaries so that people don't even have to smoke it.  With legality, there are funds available to police youth, as with alcohol and cigarettes, to limit their access.  Underground drug dealers don't ID customers.  Dispensaries do.

It is here but not at convenience store levels. 

Just like smoke shops, I bet you there are 50 smoke shops that have opened in the last 2 years in WV.  I?m sure marijuana dispensaries will be insanely popular and spread out in all directions. 

A legal supply chain that is replenished regularly via marijuana farms will probably bring in more marijuana and spur more marijuana users and create more polysubstance abusers.

If it happens hope they tax it a ton and do something really useful for the people who live here.

[MicDrass1]

Weed Never stopped Randy Moss from dominating. 

[herdorbust2]

It is here but not at convenience store levels. 

Just like smoke shops, I bet you there are 50 smoke shops that have opened in the last 2 years in WV.  I?m sure marijuana dispensaries will be insanely popular and spread out in all directions. 

A legal supply chain that is replenished regularly via marijuana farms will probably bring in more marijuana and spur more marijuana users and create more polysubstance abusers.

If it happens hope they tax it a ton and do something really useful for the people who live here.

I agree with you. And taxing something never helps because they just waste it. When they wanted the lottery years ago it was supposed to be so great to build schools etc,,, well everytime a new school has needed built in Wayne county where I live they raise property taxes or try to. Where are all those millions going? And I also don't think smoking weed is as bad as alcohol but 2 wrongs don't make a right. And this is from someone that did both in my younger years.

[MUonium]

I don?t think that?s exactly correct, Alcohol and Cigarettes have a massive effect our health care systems and Marijuana will effect it too.  To what degree is unknown.  There are numerous cases of marijuana causing a 200 heart rate and people acting in a state of paranoia or hallucinating, hurting themselves or others.  I would agree it?s not nearly as bad as alcohol but marijuana is not harmless. 

I think cigarettes, alcohol and marijuana should all be taxed and that money be given directly to hospitals.

emphatically disagree if we're talking about for-profit hospitals

i do agree that affects on health are real yet not fully understood (direct or potential indirect affects on other people like car wrecks.
i would add that there should be strict and harsh penalties (similar to alcohol) on supplying minors (under 18 YO- if you can be drafted into war, then you should be able to do what all other 'adults' can do!). 
that said, we know that bodies and minds can still develop long after 18 years, so there is real risk which causes me indecision and unsureness on any controlled substance intake.

[Johnnyherd]

Wv is in a healthcare crisis, 66% of the state?s population is on Medicaid / Medicare.  Last I checked Medicaid reimbursement were .40 on the dollar.  In 2023 Justice was going to cut Medicaid funds. 
Hospitals have closed left and right, others have had to be bailed out by WVU.

 I don?t know of large for profit hospital in WV.

[GoHerd35]

Wv is in a healthcare crisis, 66% of the state?s population is on Medicaid / Medicare.  Last I checked Medicaid reimbursement were .40 on the dollar.  In 2023 Justice was going to cut Medicaid funds. 
Hospitals have closed left and right, others have had to be bailed out by WVU.

 I don?t know of large for profit hospital in WV.

Where did you pull that percentage from? That seems quite high. I am thinking it's around 50%.

[herdfan93]

I began smoking pot when I was 17 and quit when I was 32.  During the last few yrs of this time, I easily smoked 8-10 j's a day.  Was I addicted? Not in the least.  I preferred it over alcohol because it wasn't addicting.  Did I become paranoid when I smoked it? Absolutely it was illegal after all.

I had a friend who sold it so he could pay for his college education.  I couldn't have done that but he was successful at it.  He became a General Contractor in Fl and now lives in a very nice house on a bay.

I guess from my experience I'd have to say it should be legal and taxed at a rate where the black market can't sell their pot at a cheaper price. 

This is just my experience. Others experiences could be much different from my own.

BTW I found stopping weed was like giving up a candy bar.  I was addicted to nicotene at the time but I decided I wanted to quit smoking so I prayed about it and within 3 mos I went from 2 packs a day to smoke free.  All this ended for me in 1982.