Topic: Hey Sportsfan, its WVU on the state dole.

[svherd]

You come on this board blowing steam about MU's reliance on state funding, I think you need to check with the Higher Education Adm. budget.
You will see WVU gets more than 3 times the total state funding than MU. Not to mention the almost 11 million dollars WVU gets from the POP tax.
Yes, WVU decides to put this funding in other programs besides athletics but its all out of the same pot.
THe WVU athletic department is only self sufficient because it has ridden on the coat tails of the Big East, most notably, Miami and Va Tech in football, now gone. And other Big East teams who have suceeded in the NCAA tourney in the past.

You talk about MU losing money on a bowl game, I garantee there have been mnay times WVU has lost money as well. Not too many years ago, WVU bought its way into the Cooper tire bowl in Charlotte by purchasing 20,000 tix. Did the same at the Gator bowl as well.
Hey, at least MU has won 5 of its last 6 bowl games.

I have traveled this state for many years and frankly, Morgantown is a pitiful place to put a University. Lets talk about another state tax payer rip off in the fact that WVU declines West Virginia kids for admission and lets PA and NJ kids in like it's a jail break, I know this to be a fact. I know a few people whose kids were turned down and they were valedictiorians of thier HS class, here in WV

Now, run along and go burn a couch. Next time you better bring more than what you have, junior.
 :-?

[z13629]

WVU deserves 3 x the funding.  Way more professional schools (pharmacy, physical therapy, dental, law, engineering, etc.) a great medical school and in case you forgot, is the land grant university.  Btw, MU's med school is the third best in the state now.  

If WV kids don't have the scores then they shouldn't be allowed in.  I've read where valedictorians at some WV high schools had to take bonehead math once they got to college.  If they don't have the scores, then the high school failed them, not WVU.  And as far as letting in out-of-state kids, well WV needs all the help it can get in attracting people to the state.  Maybe, just maybe, some of these kids will become residents and contribute to the state or come back and visit and contribute tourism dollars.  Ever think about that angle?

Your claim that Morgantown is a pitiful place, well that's your opinion.  And judging from your post, I'd wager you're most likely a simpleton.  So probably not an opinion shared by many, other than fellow simpletons.  Enjoy.

[carolinaherdfan]

We'll z man, in you elitist, condesending pontification, I gathered that  all of WVA is a simpleton. Once again, I can not believe how WVU thinks they are so much better, than their fellow West Virginian's. Such cultural bias that is being engendered in Morgantown is an example, of this sad day for our great people, and the entire State.

MARSHALL UNIVERSITY loves WEST VIRGINIAN'S!

[z13629]

Did I say that all of WV is composed of simpletons?  I don't think so.  So spare me the sermon and the righteousness.  When I read herd fans stating that WV would be better off if WVU ceased to exist, or my favorite, herd fans calling WVU fans hillbillys.  Don't tell me that WVU fans think they are better than MU fans or WV folks as a whole.  Sure there are some that think that, just like there are some MU fans that think the same thing.  So again spare me your righteous indignation, particularly coming from someone who so seems to care some much about WV but who lives in the Carolina's.

[carolinaherdfan]

We, did not call you hillbillys. What is a hillbilly? Is that a goat?
I, did refer to you people in Mogoho, as hilljacks, but immediately explained that the term was picked up on the tOSU board. Therfore, I used it not just because of your terrain in MOGOHO, but the very fact as I stated earlier you people were traitor's, and cowards during the war, and we have no respect for you, The fine people in Bluefield, Beckley, White Sulphur Springs, Lewisburg, Logan, Madison, Williamson, Huntington, Wayne Co. Pikeville, Ky,Boyd Co, Ky, and Lawrence, Scioto and Gallia counties of Ohio, Pt. Pleasant, and the list goes on and on were patroits, and stood for something even if it meant there own life. You people never stood for anything. Could not be trusted from day to day, no one ever knew for certain, which side you would be on, and cost countless lives of Western Virginians. There are countless West Virginians who lost loved ones during this period who were posted in that area, and they should never have had to have sacrificedtheir lives, if you people would have supported your fellow Western Virginians. You are a disgrace, and I am ashamed you are a part of our state.

 :grin:

[z13629]

What the hell are you rambling about?  Who is "you people"???  What does the civil war have to do with any part of this debate?  You need to either get your meds adjusted or stop skipping your shock treatments, because that is just a delusional reply (in my opinion of course).

[carolinaherdfan]

Well z, if you are too ignorant to understand how all of this has always played a part in the decisions of states, and University scheduling, you have no business debating on this board. You need knowledge, and historical depth, and perception to discuss, and understand why you do not play UVA, or now VA TECH, and your record with a Penn State is deplorabe. PSU, thrown in, because these people did always stand for something. That was never much of a series in all honesty. Why tOSU will not play you, even 2-1. Why you do not play UK, or U of TENN., or Georgia, or Florida, or Fla. State, or Carolina etc., and by the way it doesn't have a great deal to do with how competitive you are. People, outside of Morgantown, don't want to play you. Especially, the States, and the Universities in the Southeast, and I can certainlly tell you that Jacksonville, the Gator Bowl, and any other southern cities do not want you in their bowl games. They are building a new game for the B/E in Toronto, Canada, and you may get a chance to play in the Motor City Bowl, and The Continental Tire Bowl, but I know for certain any major bowls, hold their breath each year, and pray that you, WVU, are not going to be in their bowl. I, don't know. It has something to do with what you have always stood for, and to truly, be honest with you, I know you don't have a clue.

Now to enter a post, and attack someones mental health is not smack. It is a desperate attempt to discredit someone with whom you are uncomfortable with, but you don't have any real substance to post, and don't wan't to address the real issues, so you revert back to playing children's games. If, all of you people are kids, we will move your posts to a children's board.

GO THUNDERINGHERD!
     :smile:

[z13629]

Let me get this straight, and by all means correct me if I'm wrong, but you are saying that because of the the side chosen during the civil war by the residents of the Morgantown area this now is why WVU does not have football games with the schools you mentioned?

And you are certain that major bowls hold their breath hoping that WVU doesn't get invited and you are certain that the city of Jacksonville doesn't want 20,000 WVU fans showing up for the gator bowl.

Does this fairly summarize your post?  If not, please clarify, I don't want to misunderstand you.

[carolinaherdfan]

Well I am certain that Jacksonville does not want 10,000 - 20,000 - or 30,000 WVU fans. As far as sides taken during the war. Chosen, is the word in question? During the war no one could depend upon your area of Morgantown, because they would not take a stand. Their only choice was to not choose.  They were cowards, and traitors. WVU, still to this day is.

GO THUNDERINGHERD!

  :shock:

[z13629]

I'll take it then that you are backing off your statement that the schools in the Southeast are not on our schedule for reasons other than issues related to the civil war.

How is it that you are certain that Jacksonville doesn't want WVU fans there?  Have you taken a poll?, has there been a referendum concerning this?, are you on the gator bowl committee?  Please enlighten us as to how you came about this certain knowledge.

[carolinaherdfan]

I, am not backing off of anyting, One of the factors, as you have stated so plainly is a southern vs. northern position. Personally, this may, or may not be an issue. One would have to go to the heart of the individual. This is a difficult thing to do. However, they for the most part, do not find it necessary to engage WVU in Football. It may be, that they view you as inferior, or northern, or predjudiced, or less than bcs, or whatever. Nonetheless, they dont want any part of WVU.

GO THUNDERINGHERD!

 :smile:

[z13629]

You're not backing off your statement??? You've waffled more than a two-bit politician.  Thanks for again proving my point.