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Offline carolinaherdfan

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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2005, 05:53:36 PM »
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    carolina,
    As usual, I have no idea what you posted.  Please explain a few things:

    a)  Where are you getting your info that BP's choice was Skinner?

    b)  Snyder was on campus for exactly two practices in the spring.  Where are you getting your info that Snyder liked Morris 'right off the bat'?

    c)  Who does Kueck want to start and where are you getting this info?

    d)  What do you mean when you say, "if skinner starts, morris may still start"?


    No problem, sorry you have trouble understanding my posts.
    With regards to Skinner being the starter, my information came from another poster on this board from Carolina, who's close family member is a member of the staff. The statement was made taking into consideration the fact of spring ball, and adjusted to be still the case today. The reason is not a greater athletic ability, but he knows the system so well, and has the mental ability to continually change the play at the line of scrimmage. This is a big + in his favor, because its work well with the offense that MU, and L. Kueck runs. With regards to Snyder, who I like a lot, he made statements to the fact how much he was impressed with Morris's athletic ability, on more than one occasion. These quotes were in part posted at Herdnation, and did appear in the Charleston newspapers. I am not certain about Huntington. Morris, is a gifted, and potentially great athlete, and if he should learns the system as well as Skinner has, he will get the nod, no doubt. Larry Kueck, is still the OC, and he knows the MU offensive system about as well as anyone I know. He realizes the + of having a QB on the field who can check off multiple times if necessary. This is something Skinner can do, according to what I have been told. If we stay strictly with MU/Kueck offense, then as of today Skinner is the better candidate. If Skinner starts at QB, I believe Morris may start in the slot. I also understand he may be used in a multitude of ways including QB, until he learns to read defenses etc. a little better, not necessarily as well as Skinner. That will be up to him, and he could get it done this summer, but as of now he is the better athelete, but once again Skinner just understands the system better.

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    Offline carolinaherdfan

    Re: Has Morris's Legal Issues been resolved?
    « Reply #26 on: June 07, 2005, 05:55:17 PM »
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    Didn't he cut up a pregnant woman with a bottle?  The county prosecutor isn't going to let that one slide under the table is he?


    Question, Bill is that the pending charge against him, or do you know?

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    ps. 06/10/05. This is just another good example of Bill posting something that he does not have the facts on, and goes about trying to ruin the name of another young man, just because he hasn't a clue. I am certain, that you cannot find such a suit pending against Morris. He does have a possible alleged altercation pending, but last word has it, the issue may be dismissed, for ............
     

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    « Reply #27 on: June 07, 2005, 06:43:29 PM »
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  • DJ, I dont know how in the world you can say Devine is a better talent than Skinner.  On one side you have a player that is arguably the highest rated QB we've ever recruited and the other is a JUCO player that didnt have one single D1A offer and barely threw for a 1000 yards.  It would be fare to say both are an unknown and the job can go either way, but to blindly say Devine will be the guy and Skinner will transfer is crazy.  Son you know better than that.  :lol:

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    « Reply #28 on: June 07, 2005, 07:00:34 PM »
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  • right off in spring that Jimmyputs the ball on the money when the D doesn't blitz or the line blocks it but Coach also commented that our QB's don't handle the rush. Wonder if Bradshaw who prob won't go more than 200 will be able to take on the big LB's and not get injured? Will never forget Carrey(same size as Braddy) getting blowed up on same play Byron got his leg broke. Ahmad does play bigger than his size and might be OK. Chapman and Butchie both played at about 210 their sr yrs and were superlative blockers!

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    Offline 2xBison

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    « Reply #29 on: June 08, 2005, 07:55:27 AM »
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  • Morris was ahead of skinner last year.  Coach said in line to get some snaps in a game, then he got in trouble.  Kueck was there last year, he is still here.  That's why I expect Morris to beat skinner in a close race, or for us to have a two man show.

    Devine is insurance, an always has been.  Other than the first day of spring ball when a few fans liked his arm he was in the back ground.  I do not expect that to change.

    Bradshaw is much more physical than Carey.  No comparison.  I think he is bigger too, no matter what the media guides list them.  Lastly, Carey didn't get blown up when Bryon got hurt, he tried to cut the guy and the guy flew right into bryon's shin.  I can't imagine Carey finishing runs like Bradshaw does or imagine Carey laying the wood to a Cincy D back the way Bradshaw did.
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    « Reply #30 on: June 08, 2005, 08:26:21 AM »
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  • Snyder commented that the QBs couldn't handle the blitz in the spring.  I look for him to implement a fullback/H back into the offensive scheme, which will give us a 6th/7th blocker depending on the set.

    The QB that best fits the offense will start.  If the WRs step it up, Skinner has a great chance of starting.  If Snyder feels like he is forced to abbandon the pass, Morris may have the edge.

    How the offense reacts is usually synergistic with the leadership abilities of the QB.0

    I still feel it is unrealistic to expect any QB to start that has not been with the program at least one year.
     

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    « Reply #31 on: June 08, 2005, 05:48:46 PM »
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  • In response to the post about AB's blocking ability, did you happen to the the bowl game when he blew up the oversized linebacker from Cincy.  He was a projected starter at UVA as a freshman, known for his hitting ability.  I also work with a guy who played high school football with him.  He said that when Bradshaw was in 8th grade (playing high school varsity) he nearly knocked a senior fullback out coming through the hole.  This guy is just talented all the way around.  He can run, he can catch, he can block, he can defend if need be.  No question; he is one of the most talented players to play here.  This will be more evident as he continues to mature and learn the offense.  By the time he leaves, he will be a legend.  HE'S THAT GOOD.

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    « Reply #32 on: June 08, 2005, 09:53:48 PM »
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    I still feel it is unrealistic to expect any QB to start that has not been with the program at least one year.


    If the QB gets the calls from sidelines, that helps to kill the learning curve. If we keep the current setup, you are correct. I think we need to adapt to changing times and get the best QB on the field. If one of the freshmen is better than what we have, if we call the plays for them, we should run with that kid............
     

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    « Reply #33 on: June 09, 2005, 06:39:26 AM »
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    I still feel it is unrealistic to expect any QB to start that has not been with the program at least one year.


    If the QB gets the calls from sidelines, that helps to kill the learning curve. If we keep the current setup, you are correct. I think we need to adapt to changing times and get the best QB on the field. If one of the freshmen is better than what we have, if we call the plays for them, we should run with that kid............


    That appears to be a trend in CFB these days.  I can guess that it helps call the play but what does it do to help the QB "know" the play?  I mean do they give him the second and third receiver routes and all the scenarios that accompany the play?

    To me, standing on the field waiting on a coach to call the play is little different than sending in a player.  What benefits do calls from the sidelines give other than the receiver messing up the call from the sidelines to the huddle?
     

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    « Reply #34 on: June 09, 2005, 08:52:42 AM »
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  • I think they are talking about calling audibles from the sidelines.  That takes the pressure off the pre-snap read.  But you are correct that the QB still has to be able to know and read what is happening after the snap.
     

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    « Reply #35 on: June 09, 2005, 06:00:28 PM »
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  • I go to practice and can say for sure that Brandon Carrey was a tough kid. Not sure what size the two are/were but similar and I believe that Carrey got a hip pointer on the same play that hurt Byron. No one doubts Ahmad's ability.

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    Re: Has Morris's Legal Issues been resolved?
    « Reply #36 on: June 10, 2005, 08:50:20 AM »
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    What?!   :shock:

    I heard it was a chainsaw.


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    « Reply #37 on: June 10, 2005, 09:56:26 AM »
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  • If Morris legal troubles are behind him by the first game, look for him to start. His ability to run is the X factor. This will allow him to escape the pocket plus allevaite some pressure on the line as they try to gel.

    I would also look for Kueck and Snyder to make the Offensive play calling on pass patterns very basic until either QB can get comfortable. The K-State will be the game we really starting mixing the plays well.

    If Morris is still in legal limbo come first game, Skinner will start and Morris will be gone. Snyder will not take this crap and shouldn't.


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    « Reply #37 on: June 10, 2005, 09:56:26 AM »