Topic: ***POLL*** Menu for CUSA scheduling format change stands at 6. Which is best?

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[jstherd]

You can't be serious....well, maybe YOU can.

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[MUsince96]

Last word sturt, lolz.

[Big Ol' Hillbilly]

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Whatever that means....

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...Whatever...

Three syllables?!?

In my best Mr. Rogers voice... I knew you could.

Suppose we can shelve that whole idea about a board for just the ENGL 101 and 102 grads now.

[Big Ol' Hillbilly]

Three syllables?!?

In my best Mr. Rogers voice... I knew you could.

Suppose we can shelve that whole idea about a board for just the ENGL 101 and 102 grads now.

Yeah, I should just take my engineering degree out back and burn it. Must not be worth the paper it's written on. I'm way too dumb. Sturt says so...

[_sturt_]

Yeah, I should just take my engineering degree out back and burn it. Must not be worth the paper it's written on. I'm way too dumb. Sturt says so...

Correction... don't put this on me... you're the one who wrote just a few posts ago... "If we don't break out our thesaurus, dictionary and consult with a literature professor at a local institution of higher learning and spend 3 days in deep study..." ...as-if this poll was a bit too much for someone with... in your case... a mere engineering degree. But then again, maybe getting through those Kaplan correspondence courses in bridge building are fairly challenging. I don't pretend to know.

[Big Ol' Hillbilly]

Correction... don't put this on me... you're the one who wrote just a few posts ago... "If we don't break out our thesaurus, dictionary and consult with a literature professor at a local institution of higher learning and spend 3 days in deep study..." ...as-if this poll was a bit too much for someone with... in your case... a mere engineering degree. But then again, maybe getting through those Kaplan correspondence courses in bridge building are fairly challenging. I don't pretend to know.

Wrong kind of engineering, but we'll save that for another discussion...

I'm gonna take time to explain my post earlier. You know how you, yourself, feel you need to dumb things down after people start calling you out on your novels??? Well, I'm gonna do my best smarten things up for you to explain why myself and many, many others on this board feel the way we do about your novels. Maybe you'll understand if I attempt to speak your language... Here we go...

Explanation for Sturt

"As we, ourselves, reason within the matter which makes up the space within our cranial region, as to why we venture through the atmosphere of cyber space to this one area on the technological super highway which we like to refer to as Herdfans.com, I have to question myself as to why. Why do we venture here? Do we venture here for information? Intellectual conversation? A friendly laugh? Why do we come here? The only logical reasoning which came to me is that myself, "THE Big Ol Hillbilly" and most of the other posters come here to read short informative posts regarding the day-to-day happenings coming out of the athletic department that happens to be located within the city limits of the county seat of Cabell County, WV. While most of us are educated citizens, with fully functional brains, we do not venture here to read posts and vote in polls that read like a monthly publication of a popular neurological science and medical publication. We are fans of the gridiron and hardwood athletic competitions, not intellectual neuro-stimulating thought processing"

Translated for the Rest of Us

"I've been thinking. Why do I read Herdfans.com? Do I read it for the herd sports info? The non-sports stuff on the tavern board? Why? The only reason I could come up with is that I like to keep up with what is going on with Marshall sports and the Huntington area. I don't think that most of us come here to read novels and vote in polls that we have to spend a lot of time reading the 2 page descriptions of the poll options. We're football and basketball fans, not geniuses who enjoy 2 page sports related posts on a message board that requires a ton of thought."

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Interpretation in Sturt's brain

Regardless of whether I agree or disagree with you, I just don't like how you write what you write.

Response from Sturt's brain

Okay. So. Why is it so hard for this person to just not read what I write? Does he think I'd be offended? Does he think I'm anxious for the input of someone who so rarely actually gives any substantive input?... er... so sorry... actually gives any response to the actual topic being discussed? (That is, as opposed to making all the... forgive the analogy if it's too complex, please... "noise from the sidelines.")

Is there no room for the people who look for a somewhat deeper discussion about some things? I ask again, should another board be created just for them?

[Big Ol' Hillbilly]

Is there no room for the people who look for a somewhat deeper discussion about some things? I ask again, should another board be created just for them?

I have a feeling that board would have a ton of threads and the only responses would look like this...

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I have a feeling that board would have a ton of threads and the only responses would look like this...

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Well, yeah, unless those who you refer to as "us" just stick with your own board instead of coming over and just creating noise again... kinda defeats the whole purpose, dontchathink?

Regardless.. that's somewhat a digression... er... not exactly on-point... (24 would be so proud)... the real question is

"...Why is it so hard for this person to just not read what I write?..."

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So... addressing this specifically to the ones who both accepted the premise of the question and voted #3 (ie, simply revise the conference format so that only the minimum number of conference games must be played, in order to grant each school maximum flexibility)... I have an add-on question, if you'll indulge me. That is, are any of you like fuzzy, in that you prefer #3 for now because it is the most do-able to make a difference in the short-term, but would be open to one or more of the others?

Then... a second question for all who voted and otherwise don't want to be part of the crowd who just sit on their hands, yell out the occasional "JWB," and hope for the best...

If we all get behind #3, how do you feel about a clause of the proposal being that schools could still schedule others from their opposite division independently, just as they would any other game not otherwise scheduled by the conference office?... and, that (naturally) those games would still count as conference games in the standings... and, thus, (naturally) that the ultimate determinant of the division winners each season then would be winning percentage...?

That would seem to silence those who (at least, the authentic ones) are concerned that two more open slots in each season's schedule would be counterproductive, anticipating that those games would be predestined for lesser competition than CUSA 3.0. Moreover, it would allow some teams who have their reasons to want to preserve some cross-division match-ups to determine for themselves which ones they desire to pursue.

Yes? No? Maybe?

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Okay, those of you who authentically voted...

I get it that it might be a little discouraging to step forward and identify yourselves what with the noise and distractions ironically created by people who otherwise would say that they want Marshall players to have the every opportunity to perform at the highest possible level... the dissenters, though, ultimately will prove to not matter very much... don't let them bring you down.

They like being perceived as "right" and "popular" more than they actually care about the future of the program.

It's all about their own image... only about the team insomuch as their support of the team makes them look good for being a supporter.

Every team has those in loads. What every team needs, though, are people who are genuine... who see the lemons for what they are, and look to figure out how they can contribute to making lemonade, and unconcerned with how it will make them personally look.

Having said all of that, please do reply to my post immediately above... if not here, then just PM me.

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Overmoderation. Oh well. Not like anyone gets paid to do the job. Overall, none of us can complain too much.

[BuyNtelos4]

Overmoderation. Oh well. Not like anyone gets paid to do the job. Overall, none of us can complain too much.

The problem with the board you speak of; or the more deep, intellectual posts, is that BOH, is exactly right about what most of the posts would look like.  (...)

Very few people who check this site have an extra hour to sit around studying to vote on on your poll, or to read really anything you post.  It is a shame really, because you often do have a wealth of good information.  I am very long winded as well if I am on a roll; and I will write a post that looks like a book, then feel that I can't take any of it out because it is all important to the point.  I think the solution is to just focus on the point, and not so much the getting to the point...

[dwaynehinkle]

I automatically skip over anything _sturt_ writes. I automatically assume it's long winded and completely over worded. If your ideas can't be expressed in less than 5,000 characters, it's too complicated.

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Seems more efficient to respond to what you guys are saying by just a copy-and-paste from a recent PM conversation that falls into this same vein... (bold and italics added here)

Quote from: xxx on May 27, 2014, 01:53:41 AM

There is a big difference in low information voters and a sports message board discussion. Most people here are actually well versed and fans of Marshall obviously.

I can accept that. But I believe the distinction I'm trying to draw is not a matter of caring, but a matter of having the psychological make-up to be the kind of person who takes up a cause and makes things happen. It doesn't really matter if someone reads and absorbs what I'm saying if they're not actually the type to do anything once they read it... agree or disagree.

Quote from: xxxx on May 27, 2014, 01:53:41 AM

I just can't decide if you are just reaching into the thesaurus because thats just you or if you do it to try to sound more intelligent and try to belittle others.

Give me an example of a word you think is too "intelligent." I honestly don't see it.

And look, I'm not a writer per se, but a big part of what I do for a living is writing... and yeah, writing for people with a college education... psychoanalyze me at your pleasure, but whatever you conclude, there's no ill intent by virtue of the words I choose.  

Quote from: xxxx on May 27, 2014, 01:53:41 AM

Its a common thread that others feel the same.

Okay. So? I mean, again, not to be smug, but I am who I am, and I don't really care to filter myself because some people might be offended by the... ahem... words that are in my vocabulary. That feels so silly to me to write. I'm not writing anything scientific here. If you're reading Peter King (popular SI writer) ferpetesake, you ought to be fully capable of reading my stuff without pause.

Quote from: xxx on May 27, 2014, 01:53:41 AM

Especially regarding just the length of your posts.

I've addressed this. But... concisely, in case I ironically-enough wrote too much... I don't set out to write anything with a pre-determined word count... what comes out is what I think is necessary to come out in order to say what I think I need to say and with the precision that I think I need to say it... and if it eliminates some people from reading, so be it... I don't really see a downside for either of us... they do something better with their time, and both of us win. The only people I really care to see read my posts are those who really care to read my posts.

Quote from: xxx on May 27, 2014, 01:53:41 AM

I am an intelligent individual myself, and I just have a short fuse for the "hipsters" and "elitists" of the world.  Most of which I have to deal with on a daily basis in my profession and most of which I make double their income, and probably 30 points better in IQ, but they assume otherwise and are so condescending it makes me sick. I keep it simple. So I apologize if its really just the way you are and your genuine with it. It will get on my nerves with the long posts but I can deal with it. But if you are being fecisious, then I implore you to take a look in the mirror snd try to change that aspect of your behavior. It will leave you just like the @#*^!s I see all the time, 60 yrs old, and living with 5 cats with no children and no friends, but with the best wine money can buy!

Anyway, just figured I would shoot you a note.

xxxx, as I see it, one of the snobbiest things I could do is to not respect someone enough to respond to their post... and I do, on occasion do that, but it's clearly not my routine. Unless I'm just exasperated with someone and have concluded that their only purpose is to yank my chain and see how long they can drag me out, I normally will make the effort, assuming no other bigger priorities are on my desk that require my time and attention.

I don't really know my IQ. I make enough money, but I don't really count that as a measure of justifying my existence. I have a wife and a young adult son. By virtue of my position, I have no shortage of human interaction. My Facebook friends list is full enough... I think about 500 or so. I can count on my fingers the number of times I've consumed any alcohol--my distaste for anything that pickles my brain aside, I honestly just don't have a taste for it and don't get why anyone drinks the stuff. I've got my life issues like most people do, but nothing that will make the 6 oclock news. I'm me, and I suddenly feel like I'm doing a Dove for Men commercial... hehe.

I genuinely respect that you took the time to drop the note. Maybe this gives you some stronger insight.

Are we good?