Topic: What we know after Maryland

[coalherd]

Sometimes I wonder if the main goal of our offense is how quickly in a possession we can get off a shot, using as little of the shot clock as possible.  Seems like too often there is no differentiation between "a shot" and "a GOOD shot".  Danny has stated more than once that anyone on the squad who feels comfortable with a 3 point shot, he wants them to take it; NOT think about taking it, just take it!!  Well, until we become a team that averages around 40 per cent or better from 3 point land game after game, not sure this is the best philosophy.  As a team, not sure we've ever been among the leaders every season when it comes to 3 point shooting per centage.  Becomes a problem when we are really cold, like at Maryland, and coupled with our lack of emphasis on rebounding, can really snow ball when up against a strong foe having a hot night offensively.

Last night, was a back and forth game early, Maryland took a one point lead, around 26-25 or thereabouts.  D'Antoni put in a couple of subs, one of whom was Byers.  Wasn't in the game but a few seconds, Steve Cotton stated Byers fires a three, "air ball".  Maryland converted on other end, their lead began to stretch out, and we never led again, IIRC.

Our offensively philosophy serves well when we have a talent edge, or a significant edge.  When talent is pretty equal, or we are on the short end, game will be close on the average, like Hofstra, or we will, on the whole, be in trouble, like Maryland.

[MicDrass1]

Marshall's shots were contested and Maryland's were not.  Herd always shoots the ball with nobody under rim to offensive rebound.  Marshall did not shoot the ball well in warmups and told my people we are in trouble before game.  J.Williams was our only player that consistently shot well in warmups.  Elmore showed zilch of energy in warmups.  Watched the warmup from 4:30-6

[MicDrass1]

Sometimes I wonder if the main goal of our offense is how quickly in a possession we can get off a shot, using as little of the shot clock as possible.  Seems like too often there is no differentiation between "a shot" and "a GOOD shot".  Danny has stated more than once that anyone on the squad who feels comfortable with a 3 point shot, he wants them to take it; NOT think about taking it, just take it!!  Well, until we become a team that averages around 40 per cent or better from 3 point land game after game, not sure this is the best philosophy.  As a team, not sure we've ever been among the leaders every season when it comes to 3 point shooting per centage.  Becomes a problem when we are really cold, like at Maryland, and coupled with our lack of emphasis on rebounding, can really snow ball when up against a strong foe having a hot night offensively.

Last night, was a back and forth game early, Maryland took a one point lead, around 26-25 or thereabouts.  D'Antoni put in a couple of subs, one of whom was Byers.  Wasn't in the game but a few seconds, Steve Cotton stated Byers fires a three, "air ball".  Maryland converted on other end, their lead began to stretch out, and we never led again, IIRC.

Our offensively philosophy serves well when we have a talent edge, or a significant edge.  When talent is pretty equal, or we are on the short end, game will be close on the average, like Hofstra, or we will, on the whole, be in trouble, like Maryland.

Agree with the subbing.  We were clicking, Geroge was on floor playing well and Coach went to the bench for some odd reason and we lost the flow.  Airball lead lost.  I don't believe he has his rotations yet.  Kinsey and George need to start. West to bench.

[chris88]

BTW both and Elmore and Burks can dunk.  Someone said West dunked in practice.  I think DD philosophy is why wait 20 seconds into shot clock if you get a good, open shot before that....but I agree it looks, at times, that the goal is to just shoot it to create tempo.  Someone said earlier that is nothing more than the first pass in a break the other way....I agree. It's a long season.  Honestly, i'd rather lose like than lose to the Moreheads, EKU's of the world.  We did that last 2 years and still would up in CUSA champ games.

[Herdalum83]

BTW both and Elmore and Burks can dunk.  Someone said West dunked in practice.  I think DD philosophy is why wait 20 seconds into shot clock if you get a good, open shot before that....but I agree it looks, at times, that the goal is to just shoot it to create tempo.  Someone said earlier that is nothing more than the first pass in a break the other way....I agree. It's a long season.  Honestly, i'd rather lose like than lose to the Moreheads, EKU's of the world.  We did that last 2 years and still would up in CUSA champ games.

Illivised 3s that occur with little to no ball movement lead to long rebounds and help the opposing team get out and run. DDs philosophy is to have an athletic ball. Yes play fast but move the ball to create open shots. This whole philosophy is designed to equal out a team's athletic advantage because they can be more athletic than CJ, Jon or any of our guys but they can't be more athletic than a fast moving ball. Last night we didn't move the ball fast or at all! Way too many no pass or one pass contested 3 point shot possessions.

[GreenWhite]

What I saw was two legitimate big men taking it to us. It was like watching the Ohio State game two years ago. Bad shot selection and no underneath presence (Taylor was suspended for that game). I heard coach last night say they, being the players on the court, are doing stupid things. Was sitting behind CJ's family and his uncle yelled at CJ and told him to take the towel off his head. I agree DD should have called time out before the run to start the second half hit 10-0. This game was awful from every point except for Williams. I understand Jon was sick, but what was the problem with the others? The refs were bad BUT it did not beat us last night. Time to move on and get ready for the next one. I also agree Bennett needs to be coming off the bench to spell someone for a few minutes until he loses weight. With West not scoring that much, we need four point producers on the court at all times.

[Herdmeister]

Sometimes I wonder if the main goal of our offense is how quickly in a possession we can get off a shot, using as little of the shot clock as possible.  Seems like too often there is no differentiation between "a shot" and "a GOOD shot".  Danny has stated more than once that anyone on the squad who feels comfortable with a 3 point shot, he wants them to take it; NOT think about taking it, just take it!!  Well, until we become a team that averages around 40 per cent or better from 3 point land game after game, not sure this is the best philosophy.  As a team, not sure we've ever been among the leaders every season when it comes to 3 point shooting per centage.  Becomes a problem when we are really cold, like at Maryland, and coupled with our lack of emphasis on rebounding, can really snow ball when up against a strong foe having a hot night offensively.

Last night, was a back and forth game early, Maryland took a one point lead, around 26-25 or thereabouts.  D'Antoni put in a couple of subs, one of whom was Byers.  Wasn't in the game but a few seconds, Steve Cotton stated Byers fires a three, "air ball".  Maryland converted on other end, their lead began to stretch out, and we never led again, IIRC.

Our offensively philosophy serves well when we have a talent edge, or a significant edge.  When talent is pretty equal, or we are on the short end, game will be close on the average, like Hofstra, or we will, on the whole, be in trouble, like Maryland.

Just for clarification, Steve Cotton was in Miami Friday night, not College Park. Dave Wilson was doing the play by play. I assume he will do the Ohio game Saturday as well since Steve will be in Blacksburg.

[saherdfan]

It's a lot more fun when we win!  We have a lot of games coming up that can take the sting out of this one if we can win a few of them!

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[MicDrass1]

What I saw was two legitimate big men taking it to us. It was like watching the Ohio State game two years ago. Bad shot selection and no underneath presence (Taylor was suspended for that game). I heard coach last night say they, being the players on the court, are doing stupid things. Was sitting behind CJ's family and his uncle yelled at CJ and told him to take the towel off his head. I agree DD should have called time out before the run to start the second half hit 10-0. This game was awful from every point except for Williams. I understand Jon was sick, but what was the problem with the others? The refs were bad BUT it did not beat us last night. Time to move on and get ready for the next one. I also agree Bennett needs to be coming off the bench to spell someone for a few minutes until he loses weight. With West not scoring that much, we need four point producers on the court at all times.

Terp guards played well.  Shot the open 3 well.  Penetrated when needed.  Lots of easy buckets. 

[BipolarFan]

I think we learned what any level headed fan already knew.

We're a decent little team that just can't compete with big or even medium dogs.

[MicDrass1]

MD starting lineup might all play in the NBA

[herdfan129]

Just for the record. Being sick has absolutely NOTHING to do with throwing up off balanced 3 point shots with 20 seconds left on shot clock. Elmore needs to start playing within the system and stop being selfish/trying to impress scouts.

George needs to be playing A LOT more than he has been. Bennett needs to sit on the bench unless absolutely needed for a few minutes here and there. Even then, the offense does not need to go through him at all. He's 6'10'' 350 pounds. If he wants the ball then he needs to man up, go get a friggin rebound and then dunk it while putting his nuts in the defenders face. Goodness gracious.

Watson needs to be more aggressive on offense and take the ball to the hole more.

[JReese]

Just for the record. Being sick has absolutely NOTHING to do with throwing up off balanced 3 point shots with 20 seconds left on shot clock. Elmore needs to start playing within the system and stop being selfish/trying to impress scouts.

George needs to be playing A LOT more than he has been. Bennett needs to sit on the bench unless absolutely needed for a few minutes here and there. Even then, the offense does not need to go through him at all. He's 6'10'' 350 pounds. If he wants the ball then he needs to man up, go get a friggin rebound and then dunk it while putting his nuts in the defenders face. Goodness gracious.

Watson needs to be more aggressive on offense and take the ball to the hole more.

Also for the record....Jannson was very sick as well. We started dealing with it when we arrived on saturday.