Topic: Will a win over Ohio...

[herdorbust]

We have never went 8-0 in conference, not even with Cato. What on Earth would lead you to believe we can do that without a QB at all and still with Doc?

Because the east has never been this bad. With Cato there was a very good WKU or someone. Now every team is pathetic. Not ONE decent team. Period!!!!

[Herdmeister]

Because the east has never been this bad. With Cato there was a very good WKU or someone. Now every team is pathetic. Not ONE decent team. Period!!!!

True. There isn't a team in the east, not named Marshall, with a pulse. The strength in the west are UNT, UAB and La Tech. The Herd fortunately only get La Tech and it is in Huntington. That one should be the top home conference game of the year. Unfortunately, with the game on Friday the attendance could suffer some. That and the fact that the basketball team will be in South Bend, IN for a matchup with the Fighting Irish at the same time. I, of course, plan to be in Indiana. I have never been to a game in the Joyce Center, only walked through a time or two when there for football games. This one is sort of a bucket list game for me.

[herdfan129]

Because the east has never been this bad. With Cato there was a very good WKU or someone. Now every team is pathetic. Not ONE decent team. Period!!!!

Very good WKU team? WHAT? Just because they beat us does not mean they are good. We also barely beat UAB. La Tech had half their team suspended. CUSA has NEVER been good since last round of realignment and we still only have one championship.

[herdorbust]

Very good WKU team? WHAT? Just because they beat us does not mean they are good. We also barely beat UAB. La Tech had half their team suspended. CUSA has NEVER been good since last round of realignment and we still only have one championship.

If you think there is a team in the east this year that is even close to us or WKU in 2014 then you are out of your flipping mind.

[herdorbust]

True. There isn't a team in the east, not named Marshall, with a pulse. The strength in the west are UNT, UAB and La Tech. The Herd fortunately only get La Tech and it is in Huntington. That one should be the top home conference game of the year. Unfortunately, with the game on Friday the attendance could suffer some. That and the fact that the basketball team will be in South Bend, IN for a matchup with the Fighting Irish at the same time. I, of course, plan to be in Indiana. I have never been to a game in the Joyce Center, only walked through a time or two when there for football games. This one is sort of a bucket list game for me.

Same here. I have walked thru when I went to 3 football games there. I love that campus. Beautiful cathedral buildings everywhere.

[herdfan129]

If you think there is a team in the east this year that is even close to us or WKU in 2014 then you are out of your flipping mind.

NO ONE HAS SAID THAT!

If you think this is finally the year that Doc goes undefeated in conference then you are out of your flipping mind.

[herdorbust]

NO ONE HAS SAID THAT!

If you think this is finally the year that Doc goes undefeated in conference then you are out of your flipping mind.

And nobody said that. But we will win the east. There is nobody with a pulse this year. The worst it has EVER been by far. 2nd string would have a shot!!!!

[herdfan129]

And nobody said that. But we will win the east. There is nobody with a pulse this year. The worst it has EVER been by far. 2nd string would have a shot!!!!

I'll believe it when I see it....but yes, I agree, this is the worst division in all of FBS.

[puma]

Both divisions are actually really bad. If anyone was wondering, here are the week 2 Sagarin rankings. It's actually about on-par with every other year. That's just C-USA doing what C-USA does. I think FAU will probably drop into the 90s once it starts playing a more typical G-5 schedule but is being propped up by fuzzy "quality loss" math.

C-USA EAST
073 - Marshall
081 - Florida Atlantic
097 - Middle Tennessee
128 - Western Kentucky
135 - Fla. International
142 - Old Dominion
154 - Charlotte

C-USA WEST
090 - North Texas
102 - Louisiana Tech
108 - Southern Miss
109 - UTSA
131 - Rice
140 - UTEP

Out-of-Conference
029 - Boise State
067 - Ohio
069 - Cincinnati
229 - VMI

[elginherd]

Both divisions are actually really bad. If anyone was wondering, here are the week 2 Sagarin rankings. It's actually about on-par with every other year. That's just C-USA doing what C-USA does. I think FAU will probably drop into the 90s once it starts playing a more typical G-5 schedule but is being propped up by fuzzy "quality loss" math.

C-USA EAST
073 - Marshall
081 - Florida Atlantic
097 - Middle Tennessee
128 - Western Kentucky
135 - Fla. International
142 - Old Dominion
154 - Charlotte

C-USA WEST
090 - North Texas
102 - Louisiana Tech
108 - Southern Miss
109 - UTSA
131 - Rice
140 - UTEP

Out-of-Conference
029 - Boise State
067 - Ohio
069 - Cincinnati
229 - VMI

I'll put it in Doc-speak...at the end of the day there's no question that this conference is tremendous in achieving a high level of dreck. That said, Sagarin ratings are no doubt more valid after the end of the day about the 4 week. Jeff is a tremendously gifted at ratings.

I'll translate: Almost everyone on this board agrees that the CUSA is a gawd-awful FB conference. However, none of the rating systems are very good until they have the chance to collect more data.

[hffo]

For the best fans that are maybe a bit more in tune with the program, and expect more, the loss at Boise eliminated us from our highest possible achievement, which is the access bowl. That's tougher to swallow when you lose 14-7 with no yards in the second half, than it is if we were blown out 50-0. That being said, only wining out is the only other acceptable scenario now for Doc. He blows that, then fans should be tired of it. If you want to follow a team where no one expects anything, every season, follow someone else. Most marshall fans expect we are contending for titles every year, and in the worst conference in football, with the best players year in and year out, that's not unreasonable to expect.

Very good post.  I am concerned about the game today.   We have the better talent.   Solich gets his talent to play as a team.   Doc has always struggled against Solich.   I really hope we play a solid game,  win convincingly and show our strength.    However, I just have this feeling we are going to get an early lead and blow it or barely squeak by(mainly due to Doc).   I know a win is a win and we will take it.   But I feel this game is going to highlight everything wrong with our coaching and those issues will always keep good talent from achieving the highest potential possible the talent could achieve.

[MicDrass1]

If Ohio has a suspect pass rush attack them...… pound the rock.  Wear them down so physically that they stay on the field 40 min.  Tim Cramsey this game is on you.

[QuickStrike]

Doc cannot lose this game against Ohio.  I just hope Doc gets over his stubborn tendencies and has enough sense to change QBs if Green starts and the offense comes out struggling.

[forphase1]

My question is....

Will as loss to Ohio end any of the continued support of Doc's football program?  Many of the sunshiners predicted MU to win at Boise and the team played a competitive game but still loss...so now they cheer on his presser and anything else to be positive about.

If we beat Ohio it changes nothing for me as we SHOULD beat Ohio, but until that happens and we win the conference I am fully behind us needing a new coach!

*note* the above is partly in jest and some game day fun.  I nevertheless expect smiting and negative comments.  :-)  Yes, I want Doc gone, but I hope he proves me wrong by actually out coaching Solich today, something that I'm not sure has happened a single time since Doc has been here, even in the games we won.   

[yogiherd]

If you think there is a team in the east this year that is even close to us or WKU in 2014 then you are out of your flipping mind.

I would wait til the end of the season but a team that was 8-5 and 4-4 in conference in 2014 is not a very good team but an average team. I know you didn't say they were very good but another poster posted it. And their defense ranked 124th out of 128--- Opp Pts/G: 39.9 (124th of 128). Yes they beat the Herd 67-66 but that goes to show you how big of an egg the Herd laid  that day at the Joan. Too much individual play to team play cause WKU's players got into Herd players heads with the pre game antics. They followed/performed UAB's psych job a week later better than the Blazers and walked out of the Joan with the W. The Herd was lucky to beat UAB 22-17 the week before because Cato and etc. got psyched out with UAB. I'm sure the WKU player that had his INTs against Cato talked with his high school friend on UAB's team. The staff should have corrected/worked on that problem during practice week before WKU game because everyone knows coaches are the biggest copycats when plays and etc. work.
GO HERD!!!   

[elginherd]

While I am happy the Herd held on, this win did not in any way raise Marshall's status in CFB. A win over BSU would've. At least the Herd didn't regress.