Topic: SHR Interesting article on the state of Colleges in America today

[wasbarryb]

While Marshall isn?t mentioned in the article, I found this report on CNBC?s website interesting.  It kept me wondering how MU will fare in the increasingly competitive higher education landscape and thinking Mr. Smith may have his work cut out for him.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/27/more-colleges-face-bankruptcy-but-top-schools-experience-record-wealth.html

[svherd]

From the athletics side, I don't see us getting any bigger than we are already. The money is getting tighter and we can't expect the school or state to pump any more funds into the AD. That means any revenue for the AD will have to come from the fanbase - donors, tix sales, media rights and any deal with IMG/Corp. sponsors. Not gonna be easy. We'll need to do more with less. jmo

[NewfieHerdFan]

During Saturday's episode of College Gameday, right after Lee Corso ranted about Cincy not belonging and that there should be two divisions/rankings (P5 & G5), Rece Davis chimed in, and said something like "oh, that day is coming." Didn't get to catch it all, but that was the tone of the discussion.

Thought that was interesting, given we've all loosely discussed the bigger schools breaking away and doing their own thing.

[bighat]

President Smith put Intuit into cloud based tax and accounting programs.  That might be interesting.

[coalherd]

During Saturday's episode of College Gameday, right after Lee Corso ranted about Cincy not belonging and that there should be two divisions/rankings (P5 & G5), Rece Davis chimed in, and said something like "oh, that day is coming." Didn't get to catch it all, but that was the tone of the discussion.

Thought that was interesting, given we've all loosely discussed the bigger schools breaking away and doing their own thing.

That's where the NCAA has been a total failure.  Back in the BCS era, strong leadership at Top of NCAA should have told the BCS schools/leagues, "ok, if you want to do your own thing, then get the hell out of the NCAA altogether"!  They didn't, were weak, they blinked and knees buckled, resulting in caving in to the BCS crowd.  Now it has gotten worse for the Non "Power" or non "Major" Programs.

Instead of within the current NCAA, I'd tell them again, IMO, to get completely out.  No further games between NCAA schools and whatever those schools want to call themselves.  70 to 80 schools, let them sign some kind of arrangement with the NFL as some kind of feeder/development league!

Rest of D1, D2, etc., teams/programs, can reorganize the NCAA, find some competent leadership for that organization, and play at more of a collegiate level than as a quasi-pro level of competition.  Should help reign in some of the spiraling costs we see now, including asinine coaching salaries.

As for TV contracts, if the 70 to 80 Power teams are confined ONLY to playing each other, how attractive is ABC, CBS, Fox and the whole ESPN cartel going to find telecasting Power teams beating the crap out of the Indianas, the Vanderbilt, the Wash. States, etc., week in and week out?  The lower tier, or 25 to 30 per cent of those Power Leagues, and THEIR FANS, will soon get pretty damn tired of being the weekly "whipping boys" of that new configuration, since they no longer are able to beat up on, boost their egos, etc., against no longer available G5, FCS, etc., sacrificial lambs.  In essence those 25 to 30 per cent of schools have now become "the sacrificial lambs"!!

[herd1986]

That's where the NCAA has been a total failure.  Back in the BCS era, strong leadership at Top of NCAA should have told the BCS schools/leagues, "ok, if you want to do your own thing, then get the hell out of the NCAA altogether"!  They didn't, were weak, they blinked and knees buckled, resulting in caving in to the BCS crowd.  Now it has gotten worse for the Non "Power" or non "Major" Programs.

Instead of within the current NCAA, I'd tell them again, IMO, to get completely out.  No further games between NCAA schools and whatever those schools want to call themselves.  70 to 80 schools, let them sign some kind of arrangement with the NFL as some kind of feeder/development league!

Rest of D1, D2, etc., teams/programs, can reorganize the NCAA, find some competent leadership for that organization, and play at more of a collegiate level than as a quasi-pro level of competition.  Should help reign in some of the spiraling costs we see now, including asinine coaching salaries.

As for TV contracts, if the 70 to 80 Power teams are confined ONLY to playing each other, how attractive is ABC, CBS, Fox and the whole ESPN cartel going to find telecasting Power teams beating the crap out of the Indianas, the Vanderbilt, the Wash. States, etc., week in and week out?  The lower tier, or 25 to 30 per cent of those Power Leagues, and THEIR FANS, will soon get pretty damn tired of being the weekly "whipping boys" of that new configuration, since they no longer are able to beat up on, boost their egos, etc., against no longer available G5, FCS, etc., sacrificial lambs.  In essence those 25 to 30 per cent of schools have now become "the sacrificial lambs"!!

This is exactly right.


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[herdfan429]

During Saturday's episode of College Gameday, right after Lee Corso ranted about Cincy not belonging and that there should be two divisions/rankings (P5 & G5), Rece Davis chimed in, and said something like "oh, that day is coming." Didn't get to catch it all, but that was the tone of the discussion.

Thought that was interesting, given we've all loosely discussed the bigger schools breaking away and doing their own thing.

He?s not wrong. There absolutely needs to be a split

[MUonium]

maybe its an ignorant question, but is it a future possibility that the P group, once split off from the NCAA, supersedes the NFL?  then what?

[Johnnyherd]

During Saturday's episode of College Gameday, right after Lee Corso ranted about Cincy not belonging and that there should be two divisions/rankings (P5 & G5), Rece Davis chimed in, and said something like "oh, that day is coming." Didn't get to catch it all, but that was the tone of the discussion.

Thought that was interesting, given we've all loosely discussed the bigger schools breaking away and doing their own thing.

I saw that very moment and I was gonna write a post about it.   

Those ESPN guys are bipolar.  If you ever want to see the phenomenon groupthink happen before your eyes watch game day. 

They hate Cincinnati.  they love Cincinnati.  Cincinnati is too small.  Cincinnati is just right.  beating Notre Dame is enough.  beating is not enough.

Whatever the culture and general consensus of the network that day is what pours out that day.

Weeks ago they were talking big things about Purdue, then two weeks later they were laughing at them calling then PurDON?t.

It reminds me of elementary school kids, jumping on the latest trends and shaming programs that lose.