Topic: CFN Prediction for Marshall season...

[GreenSteve]

https://collegefootballnews.com/news/marshall-college-football-preview-best-players-top-transfers-season-prediction-win-total-2024

[MUther]

Sounds about right, but sucks Griffis is so well thought of and not coming.  Wonder how that effects the overall prognostication, considering he had Cole the higher ranked player.

I guess we'll find out.

[svherd]

Pretty optimistic for a team with a bunch of question marks.

[Lord Haw-Haw]

Looks like another season where Marshall is just playing for bowl eligibility. And the Doc haters in here conveniently forget the 33-8 record from 2013-15.

[BigJimslade]

https://collegefootballnews.com/news/marshall-college-football-preview-best-players-top-transfers-season-prediction-win-total-2024

I stopped reading right after
? the QB situation should be fine?
Granted that was penned before Griff decided to become an insurance salesman? but still

[svherd]

Looks like another season where Marshall is just playing for bowl eligibility. And the Doc haters in here conveniently forget the 33-8 record from 2013-15.

But, you have 2016 and the blowouts, collapses. Why stop at what Doc did 8 years ago? Let's rehash for the umpteenth time what Pruett did, Donnan, Parrish, Henderson. lol!

And I'm not a Huff guy. You'll get your wish after this season. jmho.

[Flat Tire 2]

Looks like another season where Marshall is just playing for bowl eligibility. And the Doc haters in here conveniently forget the 33-8 record from 2013-15.

We didn't forget the blowout losses to Cinncy; WKU and a terrible Akron team. I could go on and on about the blowout losses at home, if you want me to list them again.

[elginherd]

Coach Holliday had a couple of really nice seasons, with entertaining and explosive offenses coordinated by one of the HF's punching bags.
But the defense/special teams gene took over after Cato/Shuler left.

No matter what system is run, unless the OL and QB are good, the offense will be all brakes.

[banker]

Looks like another season where Marshall is just playing for bowl eligibility. And the Doc haters in here conveniently forget the 33-8 record from 2013-15.

Because we realize it wasn?t Doc that made that run possible. If it was Doc we would have been good again, either before or after, that stretch. Total offense in the lower half of FBS every year except for the years Cato was chucking it to Shuler, Gator and Allen. Yep, Doc recruited those guys, but luckily Cato was able to overcome the system Doc had in place.

[bbcard1]

Looks like another season where Marshall is just playing for bowl eligibility. And the Doc haters in here conveniently forget the 33-8 record from 2013-15.

We remember, but we do not conveniently forget the other season. He had a good quarterback and he rode that horse. Good for him.

[Buffalo Bop]

https://x.com/TheHerdsHeadset/status/1802115251267084621

[coalherd]

Yeah, but when Doc and the HERD were "on a roll" for a couple of seasons it was really due, in large part, to the "Secret Weapon" that Doc sprung on the opponents!!

Yep, HERD foes were just too befuddled and slow to cope with Doc's daring, bold, and brilliant "strategery" of punting at ANY time from the opponent's 30 Yard Line!!!!

[herdorbust2]

Ohio St is completely loaded this year a spent an enormous amount to try and buy a championship. V Tech will have their best team since the Beamer years. Those 2 games will be very tough on the road. But imo every other game we have is winnable. We will be much improved with a much better offense imo. Now there will be some very close games and it depends on if we can pull those out. But 7-5/8-4 sounds about right to me. If it were the CUSA days it would be about 9-3. SB much better football conference.

[MUonium]

in this new new era of cfb and when it comes to predictions this might be more applicable than ever before-

"Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt"

[Lord Haw-Haw]

     Athlon College Football pre-season magazine picks App State as East Division champ. James Madison is in second place, Marshall is in third, Coastal Carolina is fourth. In the West, Texas State gets the nod, followed by Arkansas State, Louisiana, and South Alabama in that order. Athlon picks App State over Texas State in the championship game. The only first team pick on either side of the ball for the Herd is Logan Osburn on the OL.

[svherd]

     Athlon College Football pre-season magazine picks App State as East Division champ. James Madison is in second place, Marshall is in third, Coastal Carolina is fourth. In the West, Texas State gets the nod, followed by Arkansas State, Louisiana, and South Alabama in that order. Athlon picks App State over Texas State in the championship game. The only first team pick on either side of the ball for the Herd is Logan Osburn on the OL.

Were the picks done before or after Griffis decided to retire? I don't think we win 6 games. Love to be totally wrong on that.

[herd2win]

It is difficult with all of the moving parts to predict the season.  2 clear losses with OSU and Va Tech.  That leaves 10 games.  I think we can go 7-5 as we have some of our difficult games at home and App St will be big as it is also homecoming I believe.

On a side note about stud QBs.  Doc had his faults but he did a better job at getting QBs.  If Froh was just a couple of years later we would have went from Cato to Froh and that would have carried a decade of good QBs

[HerdEcon]

Were the picks done before or after Griffis decided to retire? I don't think we win 6 games. Love to be totally wrong on that.

The picks were done before Griffis announced his retirement from football.  The Althon online version of the college football preview was released near the end of May (it was available May 30 or before) and the print edition hit the newsstands on June 4.  Griffis announced his retirement on June 11th give or take a day or two. 

[Johnnyherd]

The picks were done before Griffis announced his retirement from football.  The Althon online version of the college football preview was released near the end of May (it was available May 30 or before) and the print edition hit the newsstands on June 4.  Griffis announced his retirement on June 11th give or take a day or two. 

I heard Phil Steele has us finishing second in the East and Im not sure why.  Especially losing 6 starters that are NFL free Agents at minimum, plus our only QB with successful experience. 

Even with our transfers everything points to a rebuilding year.

[HerdEcon]

I heard Phil Steele has us finishing second in the East and Im not sure why.  Especially losing 6 starters that are NFL free Agents at minimum, plus our only QB with successful experience. 

Even with our transfers everything points to a rebuilding year.

It's not just a matter of how good or bad we are but also how good or bad our conference mates are.  We got the best draw of teams from the west division possible.  The traditional power teams in the east lost more than we did. 

We get all but one of the top teams from the east at home.

I believe, and perhaps Steele and Althon do as well, the SB East is going to be down this season and we have no place to go but up after last season's performance. 

[Johnnyherd]

It's not just a matter of how good or bad we are but also how good or bad our conference mates are.  We got the best draw of teams from the west division possible.  The traditional power teams in the east lost more than we did. 

We get all but one of the top teams from the east at home.

I believe, and perhaps Steele and Althon do as well, the SB East is going to be down this season and we have no place to go but up after last season's performance.

Best news I?ve heard in a while.  If our schedule is softer because our conference is down and we don?t play the tough teams, then great.

[svherd]

It is difficult with all of the moving parts to predict the season.  2 clear losses with OSU and Va Tech.  That leaves 10 games.  I think we can go 7-5 as we have some of our difficult games at home and App St will be big as it is also homecoming I believe.

On a side note about stud QBs.  Doc had his faults but he did a better job at getting QBs.  If Froh was just a couple of years later we would have went from Cato to Froh and that would have carried a decade of good QBs

We need to thank Shuler for convincing Cato to come here and drop his FIU commit. Doc had no knowledge of the kid before Shuler brought him to HTS.

[JeremyBlake23]

My guess is between 5-7 and 7-5.

[herd2win]

We need to thank Shuler for convincing Cato to come here and drop his FIU commit. Doc had no knowledge of the kid before Shuler brought him to HTS.

Does not matter how a player ends up at a school.  Doc still got him and he stayed 4 years.

[svherd]

Does not matter how a player ends up at a school.  Doc still got him and he stayed 4 years.

Doc didn't convince Cato to flip schools, Shuler did. It's been well documented. I appreciate what Doc did and the stability he brought to the program but give Shuler the credit he deserves