Topic: Bernard Morris

[grrchemgrl]

ok.... give the kid a break... he made a mistake... but its not your mistake to judge..... let the courts deal with it and chill until spring ball and until this all settles out.....[\color]

[Marco]

what's the deal with all the new posters who show up and rip on things??

I'm glad wolf's board is growing but man........not sure I like the freak show that goes with it...what are they exiles from the herd nation??

[sporter]

Isn't it amazing that in the court of law you are innocent until proven guilty, but on this message board it appears to be the exact oppisite.  BTW some of you guys who are asking is this the kind of guy you would want your daughter around, you make it sound as if he was just throwing bottles around at every female in sight.  Do any of you even know what provoked the alleged incident?
So far the only thing we know is that there is enough evidence to have a trial, thats all.

[Mako]

what's the deal with all the new posters who show up and rip on things??

Such is the way of the world.  When we had our down year this year, they came out of the woodwork and wailed with their "sky is falling" routine and then crawled back into their holes.  As soon as this gets resolved, they'll crawl back in again because they have nothing else to say.

[GreenBison]

Didn't we have this same conversation 2 years ago about Hill?

Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice shame on me.

I think this is a leadership issue for the football team. It all comes down to leadership on and off the field. I'm not for or against Morris (his legal matters). I'm concerned about leadership. Compare our last string of QB's and their conduct on and off the field with our last QB and Morris. Being an effective QB takes a special person, not just any QB can do it even if they have the talent in place.

[pokey]

I don't see how anyone can say who our future QB is without seeing any one of them on the field yet..

And Marco....would you like all of the Herdnation people to go back to Herdnation?  not sure what you meant by that statement.

[Marco]

nah....it's an open forum.  i just know the nation ran a few nut jobs off and i believe wolf has had to do the same here..........herd77, whaletail, herdcusa??  same guy but that type of deal.  i just wondered if they get banned (hence exile) and then end up here....

i know you spend a lot of time overthere, and have been here before.  i thought i was clear that it was the new poster names with low numbers of posts that I was talking about....they come out swinging...lambasting players, coaches and program.  i just get tired of it.

[pokey]

nah....it's an open forum.  i just know the nation ran a few nut jobs off and i believe wolf has had to do the same here..........herd77, whaletail, herdcusa??  same guy but that type of deal.  i just wondered if they get banned (hence exile) and then end up here....

i know you spend a lot of time overthere, and have been here before.  i thought i was clear that it was the new poster names with low numbers of posts that I was talking about....they come out swinging...lambasting players, coaches and program.  i just get tired of it.

sorry, i took you out of context.....i agree,there is no need on any board for constant negativity from certain posters.

[MeHerdMePlayGames]

nah....it's an open forum.  i just know the nation ran a few nut jobs off and i believe wolf has had to do the same here..........herd77, whaletail, herdcusa??  same guy but that type of deal.  i just wondered if they get banned (hence exile) and then end up here....

i know you spend a lot of time overthere, and have been here before.  i thought i was clear that it was the new poster names with low numbers of posts that I was talking about....they come out swinging...lambasting players, coaches and program.  i just get tired of it.

sorry, i took you out of context.....i agree,there is no need on any board for constant negativity from certain posters.

If you can't state your opinion about the HERD on an online message board dedicated to da HERD, where can ya state it?  whats with ppl callin every1 freaks or weirdos because they dont like someones opinion.  too much bill oreilly for you people.

[pokey]

no, its called ostructionist and pessism.............everyone has a right to voice their opinion on here, but when a persons main focus is tearing down the program one post after another, then it becomes an issue in my opinion......What is wrong with a little No Spin Zone?

[Chevy1]

IF PROVEN GUILTY,  then there's really no need for further discussion.  IMO, the crime is simply too serious for Marshall to look the other way or offer a "second chance".  Again, IF PROVEN GUILTY, I'm sure Mr. Morris will get his "second chance" at another university - and I wish him luck, but Marshall will have no other choice but to excuse him.  That kind of behavior - whether he's a first rate guy or a first rate A-Hole -- simply can not be tolerated.  

Strange, but many universities can assess situations like this without the use of a jury trial.  

As much as we like these players because of their athletic ability, we have to realize the disappointment of the 2004 season could have been a product of too many "second chances".  Last year, the Herd had a great team with great talent, but still finished 6-6.  The first non-winning season since 1984. The reason, IMO (also the opinion of many others), the lack of leadership, the lack of character.  We were fortunate to find young men like lefty, Penny, Troy Brown and many of our other former players.  They had heart, desire, class and were leaders.  They were leaders because they led by example .  The example was a great one.... not one of the barroom brawler.

I'm sure Marshall had many great young men on the team that were of great character and exhibited that character.  It's ashame they were overshadowed by those that chose to disregard team policy.  Hopefully, next year's team can correct that situation - get their minds back in the game... back on the field.

GO HERD!!!!

[Garbanjo]

I can assure you there were very good guys on the team this past year. Atkins, Rembert, and Mullins, just to name a few................

[HERDFAN1999]

I am one of those people who have just started posting on here and I haven't ripped into anyone yet (except R-Rod but in all intelligent minds he doesn't count).  I think most have come here because this board usually has recruiting information before it is on Herd Nation.  But I like both boards.

[gaherdfan]

Great post Chevy1

[Muboss32]

I agree with Garbanjo.  I think that Atkins was a great leader for our defense.  I just wish that Goddard had followed in his foot steps on and off the field.  I think that he would have been a great leader.
As for the offense, I didnt see a true leader out there.  Davis, maybe; but the leader on offense should be the QB.  He is the one person (other than the center) who touches the ball every snap.  He controls the huddle, audibles, and defensive formations.  Hill just was not that kind of QB after he got hurt at UT.  Once he came back, he did not seem the same especially this past season.
Therefore, I would really like to see some really good captains picked by the coaches and players.  One I am pulling for is Royal and Keyes on Defense and on Offense, I just dont know.  Someone will have to step in and fill shoes that nobody wore last year.

[herdgirl95]

P.S.  For all you people that are "supporting" this guy, look in the mirror and ask yourself "Is this the kind of guy I would want around my daughter if she were enrolled at Marshall?"  Some of you make me sick.

I am somebody's daughter and I am enrolled at Marshall... and I also am not afraid of Bernard Morris.  My guess would be at least 85-90% of people on this board have never met him or have any idea what his true "character flaws" might be.  All you know is what you've heard from people who have heard from someone who knows someone that was in the same bar that night... and what was reported in the media (all stories written by people who also WERE NOT THERE and do not know him).  The girl was not "scarred for life".  Sometimes I think it would be fun if there was a message board where the rest of the world could talk about some of the times people on here have made mistakes... how do you think some of your "mistakes" would make you look if they were twisted to be made into "good reads?"

[yaherd83]

what's the deal with all the new posters who show up and rip on things??

I'm glad wolf's board is growing but man........not sure I like the freak show that goes with it...what are they exiles from the herd nation??

some posters only log on to talk about the gossip--herdnation was quite busy after the bar fights.  some log on to talk about their distaste with certain players, other log on to their character defense. :roll:

btw i'm a new poster here too... :D

[HerdJC05]

I just log in to ridicule yaherd  :lol:

[yaherd83]

I just log in to ridicule yaherd  :lol:

and i log on to take it...

you're not the only one jc :P


edit: piece of advice, if you're going to talk about the characters of football players, please be warned that every girl on campus will log on to say that they know him and he is a good guy. :smile:

[grrchemgrl]

i know him....... lol sorry had to do that......

i'm all for football discussion but really ppl..... i'm gonna continue with this leader convo we got going......

we have some guys who i truly believe will step up and be leaders on and off the field next year..... i can name a couple offense and a couple defense.... i dont think we'll ahve the leadership problems we had last year..... we were soo.... dont really know teh words....

either way..... spring ball is one day closer  :D  :D  :D  :D  

[TomorrowHERD]

Didn't we have this same conversation 2 years ago about Hill?

Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice shame on me.

I think this is a leadership issue for the football team.

BINGO!!!!

My concern exactly.