Both teams four games under .500...for my Indians, it's the fact the they mostly decided to "stand pat" with last year's overachievers...they've been below average in all areas, but their salvation is a great manager who mixes and matches well...so...what about the Reds whom everybody else loves???...it just show how the loss of a closer throws the staff and everything else off kilter...I know, injuries have been a factor, but that happens to everybody...all I know is that Bryan Price shouldn't get too comfortable...a relative unknown like him becomes an easy target...