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Offline herd2win

What is going on at Buffalo....
« on: November 24, 2018, 10:43:41 PM »
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  • Top 25 in basketball and a strong football team who sniffed the top 25 this season...
     

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    What is going on at Buffalo....
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    Offline MicDrass1

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #1 on: November 24, 2018, 11:04:30 PM »
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  • I will say good coaching, recruiting and player development.  Buffalo AD took a chance on a D3 head football coach so he/she didn't bring in a retread.  Thinking outside the box.  Coaching hires in D1 is very old school and political.  Leopole had hc experience with great success.  Recruiting is recruiting.  Got it or you don't  8).  D1 rules vs D3 rules.  Different but all in a manual.  Take test and don't cheat.  Success at prior stops in large roles is important.  There ncaa levels should not be.  It's the same game and same stuff.  Buffalo chose coaches with a big pool of coaching contacts.  Leopole is recruiting NY well and he was hc in Wisconsin.  Go getter, expanded recruiting efforts into new parts.  Buffalo recruiting in Michigan.  He's a developer of players and relationships which is the crux of good D3 coaches.  I believe in the NFL at one time there were more prior D3 coaches than from any other division.     
     

    Offline coalherd

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #2 on: November 24, 2018, 11:13:27 PM »
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  • Maybe the long term benefits of that vast Tues.-Weds. night TV exposure of "MACtion" in empty stadiums are finally kicking in!!  ::)
     
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    Offline MicDrass1

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #3 on: November 24, 2018, 11:17:54 PM »
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  • Maybe the long term benefits of that vast Tues.-Weds. night TV exposure of "MACtion" in empty stadiums are finally kicking in!!  ::)

    You just don't know what recruits and players are really going to do.  Trying to develop them and building relationships is the way.  I think Buffalo has a nice method to finding good HC right now.  Good formula.
     

    Offline MicDrass1

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #4 on: November 24, 2018, 11:39:32 PM »
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  • Brian Kelly spent 15 years in D2 ranks coaching and only 5 in D1 football before taking over Notre Dame.  He learned to coach in ball lower than FCS.  He knew how to coach and win long before he went to Central Michigan.  There are coaches that are just better than most other coaches.  They are so good they could learn to coach just about any sport and over time win in that sport.  A winner is a winner!
     

    Offline 01101101

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #5 on: November 24, 2018, 11:54:50 PM »
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  • The answer for Buffalo is their now former athletic director, Allen Greene, who actually left this spring to become AD at Auburn.  He was the youngest AD in the nation when he was hired back in 2012, and he started new fundraising and facilities campaigns and a new sponsorship program with Nike, made really good coaching choices, and didn’t accept the status quo.  He ran the program and set expectations like it was an SEC school (remember when they tried that athletic rebranding as the State of New York Bulls - that ended while he was there).

    They had a young energetic guy with SEC ties come in, set the program straight over 6 years, and finally got his call up back to a big job in the SEC.  They are starting to see the real fruits of the seeds he laid.  If they can continue down their trajectory, they will be the #1 overall program in the MAC, like, in the here and now.  It took 20 years to have found that right person, but they are starting to become the program the MAC thought they could be when they were invited.
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    Offline MicDrass1

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #6 on: November 25, 2018, 12:00:36 AM »
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  • The answer for Buffalo is their now former athletic director, Allen Greene, who actually left this spring to become AD at Auburn.  He was the youngest AD in the nation when he was hired back in 2012, and he started new fundraising and facilities campaigns and a new sponsorship program with Nike, made really good coaching choices, and didn’t accept the status quo.  He ran the program and set expectations like it was an SEC school (remember when they tried that athletic rebranding as the State of New York Bulls - that ended while he was there).

    They had a young energetic guy with SEC ties come in, set the program straight over 6 years, and finally got his call up back to a big job in the SEC.  They are starting to see the real fruits of the seeds he laid.  If they can continue down their trajectory, they will be the #1 overall program in the MAC, like, in the here and now.  It took 20 years to have found that right person, but they are starting to become the program the MAC thought they could be when they were invited.

    So he didn’t have the we are poor little ol Buffalo attitude?  Believed in positive energy without excuses.
     
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    Offline THECHAMPISHERE

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #7 on: November 25, 2018, 12:03:55 AM »
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  • and didn’t accept the status quo. 

    So he didn’t have the we are poor little ol Buffalo attitude?  Believed in positive energy without excuses.


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    Offline Scottyo614

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #8 on: November 25, 2018, 06:40:38 AM »
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  • Guys Buffalo has only had 3 winning seasons since 2010. Last year they were 6-6. Anthony Johnson returning had to help some this year along with a cast of returning a ton. Leipold does help as he’s the guy who ended Mounts dominance. Will he stay? Time will tell. Picking an Ohio or Michigan D2-D3 coach might not be a bad idea. The last thing you want to get caught up in is constant turnover.

    I do think UB basketball has a great shot of remaining competitive. But the MAC is so up and down year to year who knows
     

    Offline Flat Tire 2

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #9 on: November 25, 2018, 06:43:33 AM »
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  • FWIW: Buffalo is one of only 62 AAU universities in the US, one of the most prestigious college affiliations. The endowment of Buffalo is about $650 million and it is a state supported school. Very good school!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Universities
     

    Offline Johns1124

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #10 on: November 25, 2018, 07:50:08 AM »
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  • Buffalo basketball has been fairly good for the last 6-7 years.
     

    Offline HerdinNT

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #11 on: November 25, 2018, 10:20:49 AM »
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  • You all have left out the biggest item required- MONEY. 
     

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    Offline svherd

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #12 on: November 25, 2018, 02:58:42 PM »
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  • You all have left out the biggest item required- MONEY.


    If that’s the only factor then let’s not expect any championships going forward. Accept we are low budget, middle of the road and enjoy it. USM never uses money as an excuse and they are in worse financial shape than we are. Check out their history in both major sports.


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    Offline MicDrass1

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #13 on: November 25, 2018, 04:10:55 PM »
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  • Head football coach at Buffalo makes much less than Holliday
     
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    Offline coalherd

    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
    « Reply #14 on: November 25, 2018, 06:25:01 PM »
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  • So, in essence, their philosophy in trying to change the overall direction of the athletic department was to NOT run out and try to find an ex jock alum who "Bleeds Blue" (or whatever Buffalo's predominant color is)!!!

    What a NOVEL idea!!  Maybe someday it might be tried in Huntington!!!
     

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    Re: What is going on at Buffalo....
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