Topic: Cramsey

[herd1990]

At what point will T Cramsey start feeling some heat?  I’m the last thing from a Doc apologist, but Cramsey has yet to impress me.  Other than our offensive performance against So Florida in the bowl game, our offense has regressed since we amputated the Legg.  We always hear about all these athletes we have and all the team speed.  And I agree it’s there.  I was in Boise and it was clear we were the faster, more athletic team.  But Cramsey either has no game plan or he abandons it the minute we have a few setbacks.  I was way more worried about the D this year and very optimistic about the offense.  Looks like I was way wrong.  And I know that Doc is ultimately responsible for his staff but Cramsey, on paper, looked like he’d bring an explosive and dynamic offense.  I think he left his playbook in Huntsville Texas and he just picked up a copy of Legg’s......

[herdfan129]

Cramsey should have been left in Boise. I'm 100% done with him. I was excited when we hired him but its obvious he is nothing more than an FCS level coach.

[ThunderValley]

I can remember when Bobby would take over the play calling if his cord. wasn’t doing his job. He could light a fire

[parshall2marshall]

You'll see Herd points and more points vs. Ohio. Won't that be "strange".

[forphase1]

Cramsey can only run what Doc allows.  Many of us, myself included, thought that Legg was the problem behind our offensive woes.  While he may have had SOME of the blame, I think it's becoming clear that the real issue is the head coach.  Doesn't matter if we bring in the best OC in the country, they will be hindered by the way Doc wants the offense to be ran.  Run Cramsey out the door if ya'll want, but as long as Doc is the head man it really won't change much. 

[MUther]

Cramsey can only run what Doc allows.  Many of us, myself included, thought that Legg was the problem behind our offensive woes.  While he may have had SOME of the blame, I think it's becoming clear that the real issue is the head coach.  Doesn't matter if we bring in the best OC in the country, they will be hindered by the way Doc wants the offense to be ran.  Run Cramsey out the door if ya'll want, but as long as Doc is the head man it really won't change much.

Clint said Doc has very little influence over the offense in one of these threads.

[MrRobertPruett]

Cramsey said at the QB Club Dinner that Doc gives him the freedom to run the offense.

[forphase1]

Cramsey said at the QB Club Dinner that Doc gives him the freedom to run the offense.

Yes, and throwing your boss under the bus for the offensive struggling is a good way to keep your job also....  Maybe he's being honest...and maybe he isn't.  But the offense he ran at previous stops really hasn't been evident here, at least not to this point.  I understand different conference(s) and different personnel, etc.  But I do have to wonder just how much 'freedom' he is really given and how much we see on the field is a product of how Doc thinks offenses are supposed to be ran.  Yes, if he is given complete freedom then we may need a change at OC too.  But it looks much like the same ole 'Doc' football we had the previous handful of years too.  Cramsey has talked about slants and middle patterns....when is the last time we hit a slant receiver or a crossing route in the middle?  It seems like forever ago.  In the end, I suppose, whether the buck stops with Cramsey or Doc, what we saw the 2nd half against Boise was bad offensive football, and that needs fixed.

[breckjimison]

Clint said Doc has very little influence over the offense in one of these threads.

I don’t recall him saying that. I may be wrong. I did se where Clint made a point about how Legg used TE’s differently under Legg than we do now. Doc needs to let Cramsey be himself or we need to let him go.


Have you noticed how hard it is lately to make a post on here about Doc or the coaching staff and not be upset with Doc even if you don’t want to be?
This has got to change soon.

[goherd24]

It's too late to make another OC change. Next change is Doc. We can't keep shuffling the accountability down the line with that man, at some point the captain has to take the blame and "resign".

[MUther]

I don’t recall him saying that. I may be wrong. I did se where Clint made a point about how Legg used TE’s differently under Legg than we do now. Doc needs to let Cramsey be himself or we need to let him go.


Have you noticed how hard it is lately to make a post on here about Doc or the coaching staff and not be upset with Doc even if you don’t want to be?
This has got to change soon.

Van Horn said, "Has nothing to do with Doc. He has no input, regarding offensive or defensive scheme. It’s the problem of the OC, if anyone. As far as the qb, I think he’s a good qb. Protection was an issue at times, although some of those guys on the oline played very well. Penalties affect play calling. There were some balls that should’ve been caught. Etc. Those plays where the OC tries to get cute also causes a lot of issues, regarding rhythm and flow. They should’ve kept it simple. He would’ve had a better game. "

[MUsince96]

When coordinators change and the results stay the same it tells me the problem is at the top.

[whf]

It is apparent that the offense has the schemes. Many of you belly-aching this week about the O are the very same who wanted:
A package for Gaines; you got it.
Two Running Back Sets: you got it.
on and on and on.

The offensive scheme wasn't / isn't a problem. The play calling, and making adjustments at the line of scrimmage are.  Cramsey has the scheme, players didn't execute, primarily the quarterback.

Doc and the coordinators have defensive and offensive master-plans, come game day the coordinators run those plans.  It is apparent that both master-plans are plenty modern and can provide excitement and entertainment both.  Why the constant blaming Doc for poor execution on the field of capable kids is beyond me.

[chris88]

Neither Pruett or Doc know enough about offensive schematics to call plays.  Pruett was always a D guy. They can ask questions and have input but they couldn't possibly take over an offense or call plays.  Cramsey is more creative than Legg but he has yet to show he can be situational adaptive and break out of the shell of the standard spread option. Since nobody on staff knows more than Cramsey there is nobody to push things forward.  Just like there was nobody to bring Legg into the current decade. It is chess vs checkers.  Still better than BL, but still playing checkers.

[herdorbust]

It is apparent that the offense has the schemes. Many of you belly-aching this week about the O are the very same who wanted:
A package for Gaines; you got it.
Two Running Back Sets: you got it.
on and on and on.

The offensive scheme wasn't / isn't a problem. The play calling, and making adjustments at the line of scrimmage are.  Cramsey has the scheme, players didn't execute, primarily the quarterback.

Doc and the coordinators have defensive and offensive master-plans, come game day the coordinators run those plans.  It is apparent that both master-plans are plenty modern and can provide excitement and entertainment both.  Why the constant blaming Doc for poor execution on the field of capable kids is beyond me.

I agree with this....except Doc needs to either find a QB or be able to develope one. That is the major problem. If you had a good QB that could execute(and not just against the weak teams) everything would be great. We have the D but the QB position is making us a decent team instead of a top 25 team.

[MicDrass1]

I watched the same 1st q and 2nd q as our football coaches.  It was easy to see that the running game was the key to winning.  Boise did not like tackling Kevin Knox.  Tim Cramsey refuses to play to his teams strengths and now people are calling out his qb which could have been prevented if he and the hc had a feel for the game. 

[HerdEcon]

I agree with this....except Doc needs to either find a QB or be able to develope one. That is the major problem. If you had a good QB that could execute(and not just against the weak teams) everything would be great. We have the D but the QB position is making us a decent team instead of a top 25 team.

IMO, Doc's biggest failure has been his ability to recruit or develop a good QB and good depth at QB.  Even Cato started out rough.  Maybe that's because he was thrust into the starting position early.  Post Cato, Doc has struggled to find a good QB.  Litton had the arm strength and size but struggled with the mental aspect of the game and accuracy (under thrown passes and deep balls).  The QB touches the ball every offensive play and a good QB can be the difference between a bad offense and an average offense or an average offense and a good offense. 

[slamduck524]

The problem is Our quarterback play. 56 yards passing is unbelievable. Surely we have a quarterback who is better than Green. 1 and 3 nonconference is where we are headed.

[MicDrass1]

and Willie Johnson still can't catch.  His hands are worse than Tyre Brady's hands.  Play the young wr's.  Get vertical and use drags underneath and pound the rock.  Run Gaines down the seam and levette as an outlet te who gets the tough 5 yards.  pound the rock.  Pound the rock.  Keep it simple and stupid.  We have 9 starters on offense and upgrades to our oline.  Knox ran for nearly 300 yards on VT last year.  Pound the damn rock Tim Cramsey.  Too cute for my liking.

[goherd24]

It is apparent that the offense has the schemes. Many of you belly-aching this week about the O are the very same who wanted:
A package for Gaines; you got it.
Two Running Back Sets: you got it.
on and on and on.

The offensive scheme wasn't / isn't a problem. The play calling, and making adjustments at the line of scrimmage are.  Cramsey has the scheme, players didn't execute, primarily the quarterback.

Doc and the coordinators have defensive and offensive master-plans, come game day the coordinators run those plans.  It is apparent that both master-plans are plenty modern and can provide excitement and entertainment both.  Why the constant blaming Doc for poor execution on the field of capable kids is beyond me.

So Doc, the actual head coach, is immune from all accountability for continued failure to succeed? My gosh, imagine if businesses ran with that philosophy, that the leader is not the problem, just everyone below them lol.

[herdfan129]

So Doc, the actual head coach, is immune from all accountability for continued failure to succeed? My gosh, imagine if businesses ran with that philosophy, that the leader is not the problem, just everyone below them lol.

Sounds like the government lol