Topic: Arm Chair Staff

[HerdinNT]

I have been speaking to some other Herd fans lately who would like to list the arm chair football staff on this site.  In the end, we all agreed that they already know who they are. 

[THECHAMPISHERE]

Docsucking to the very bitter end, are we?

Maybe the most pointless post of the year. It's a message board. If you want to ban opinions on Marshall sports, wolf, wouldn't have a board.

[Scottyo614]

I may be one. Here’s what’s great. My D is averaging 7 points game. Weve has parents (SEC alumni) and commissioners from other leagues talking to us about joining or what we are doing. We are re-organizing youth football with the country commission with expectations in Knoxville to high school and about to start a national travel program through fundraising.

But hey keep complaining on a message board about “armchair” coaches. I’ll keep coming here when free to complain about Cramseys gameplan

[Gaylen]

I actually coached football for two seasons as head coach of a high school junior varsity team. Went 17-0-1.
But I admit I know very, very little about coaching at the college level and don't pretend to.

[HaveUherd]

We had one guy on this board who actually became a coach I believe. Handle was Flyhawk I think.

[Gaylen]

Dshoe coached at Ironton St. Joe for a while.

[Cesspool of Morons]

We had one guy on this board who actually became a coach I believe. Handle was Flyhawk I think.

I believe that he resigned a month or two after joining a college staff.

[chris88]

I coached for several years at HS level and a yr at Jr high as a HC and have interacted with coaches at many d1 schools.  I could break down tape in slow motion and show you so much simple stuff that would make sense relatively quickly.  It isn't rocket science once you understand the terminology. Problem with coaches at HS and college level is groupthink is pervasive.  Want to see a great coach? Show me how he has done vs teams who have more talent.  Coordinators are harder because many have not had HC jobs before they get one. But you can look at the tape of their teams offense or defense and get a pretty good idea about how dynamic they are.  I have not given up on Cramsey but unless he adapts he will just be a slightly better version of Bill Legg, Larry Kueck etc in terms of success. We haven't had an OC leave for a better job since Marty Galbreath and Coach Z. At least Cramsey understands the value of motion better and why there is always a purpose than the last few guys.  BL , btw, is now the OC at Mercer.

I will say this when looking at dynamic offenses vs non dynamic offenses after studying literally 100's hrs of tape for HS, college, and even pro teams....route combinations in the passing game are among the most noticeable differences across the talent spectrum. Meaning, if you have more talent you can call about anything and it will work if everyone does their job.  When the talent is comparable or you have less talent, route combos is one of the more meaningful differentials between having success and not. Boise has a good defense but it wasn't like they were swarming our backfield on every play like an Alabama or Clemson would.  They adapted after getting a pretty good idea of what we were trying to do and we did nothing to counter that. You have to be pretty confused to have zero yds and zero first downs for an entire half.

I believe our D unit can be pretty special and the ST will be solid.  We don't need the offense to score 35-40 a game but we can't have it be anemic and/or virtually non-existent like it was vs Boise in 2nd half.

[FlyHawk98]

I’m coming out of the wood work for this one. Probably won’t respond anymore either. I read the board but this is first time I’ve logged on in months maybe even a year or more I don’t know.

For the record, yes I resigned. My wife wasn’t happy and I wasn’t able to spend much time with my kids. Believe it or not, one of the reasons I resigned is one of the long time defensive coaches at VT and I had a big heart to heart. He informed me that he does have some regrets with how much family time he missed out on through coaching. Seeing his kids all grown up made him realize just how much he had missed. All I’ve ever wanted to be was a great husband and father. With that in mind I decided to resign and move back home to Wayne County to raise my kids in a rural setting surrounded by countless family members and cousins they see every day.

Now having all of that out of the way. I’m not here to bash any coaches. Wouldn’t do any good for me to do that. All I will say is there are plenty of people on this board who know just as much about football as ANY D1 coach. Honestly, it’s not rocket science. You might have different terminology but it’s the same stuff for the most part. Obviously there’s different styles/mindsets. They might know their offense/defense philosophies better but that doesn’t mean they know football better than anyone on this board.

IMO, the biggest difference between a good coach at this level and a bad to mediocre coach is the organization, attention to detail, ability to motivate, and the ability to TEACH. It doesn’t matter how much you know if you can’t effectively communicate that information. As for head coaches it’s all about assembling a good staff who does those things effectively. In game coaching the HC should be able to recognize momentum swings, properly call timeouts/manage the clock, know when to go for it on 4th/2point conversion (there’s actually a service who prepares a book before each game based on each team telling you to go for it in this situation based on weather, yard line, D&D, time left, and how you rate your kicker.)

Probably the most important of all are the drills within your scheme and effectively using practice time. Breaking down each portion of your offense/defense with drills is extremely important.

I will also say that the lack of full support staff honestly is a big concern of mine for Marshall. The more people you have to break down film/tendencies the better.

As for recruiting which is obviously important. Believe it or not when a new recruit is mentioned the staff will literally go to their 247 account to see who they have offers from. All recruiting starts on Twitter. You can probably tell every kid each coach is recruiting just by seeing who they follow on Twitter.

Y’all feel free to carry on. Just been reading a lot lately and saw my name mentioned. I have no regrets about resigning. Also for the record I was there on staff for around 8 months and worked directly with the QBs. I volunteered the first two months or so as that was part of the deal when the job was offered. It was never meant to be a full time volunteer position and I wasn’t a volunteer when I resigned. I go to the coaches convention almost every year and have multiple friends on D1 staffs right now including old college team mates on staff at Houston, Auburn, Toledo, and my old college room mate at Memphis. Have friends at multiple others now as well. This position kind of fell in to my lap so I wanted to give it a shot, I’m glad I did it as I now know 100% that I’m happier being a family man living in southern WV. Speaking of which, my little girls are ready to go out and gather eggs from the chickens so I’m going to go back to my quiet little life.

God Bless you all and Go Herd!

[Big City]

I have been speaking to some other Herd fans lately who would like to list the arm chair football staff on this site.  In the end, we all agreed that they already know who they are.

This is rich.  ::)

[chris88]

I’m coming out of the wood work for this one. Probably won’t respond anymore either. I read the board but this is first time I’ve logged on in months maybe even a year or more I don’t know.

For the record, yes I resigned. My wife wasn’t happy and I wasn’t able to spend much time with my kids. Believe it or not, one of the reasons I resigned is one of the long time defensive coaches at VT and I had a big heart to heart. He informed me that he does have some regrets with how much family time he missed out on through coaching. Seeing his kids all grown up made him realize just how much he had missed. All I’ve ever wanted to be was a great husband and father. With that in mind I decided to resign and move back home to Wayne County to raise my kids in a rural setting surrounded by countless family members and cousins they see every day.

Now having all of that out of the way. I’m not here to bash any coaches. Wouldn’t do any good for me to do that. All I will say is there are plenty of people on this board who know just as much about football as ANY D1 coach. Honestly, it’s not rocket science. You might have different terminology but it’s the same stuff for the most part. Obviously there’s different styles/mindsets. They might know their offense/defense philosophies better but that doesn’t mean they know football better than anyone on this board.

IMO, the biggest difference between a good coach at this level and a bad to mediocre coach is the organization, attention to detail, ability to motivate, and the ability to TEACH. It doesn’t matter how much you know if you can’t effectively communicate that information. As for head coaches it’s all about assembling a good staff who does those things effectively. In game coaching the HC should be able to recognize momentum swings, properly call timeouts/manage the clock, know when to go for it on 4th/2point conversion (there’s actually a service who prepares a book before each game based on each team telling you to go for it in this situation based on weather, yard line, D&D, time left, and how you rate your kicker.)

Probably the most important of all are the drills within your scheme and effectively using practice time. Breaking down each portion of your offense/defense with drills is extremely important.

I will also say that the lack of full support staff honestly is a big concern of mine for Marshall. The more people you have to break down film/tendencies the better.

As for recruiting which is obviously important. Believe it or not when a new recruit is mentioned the staff will literally go to their 247 account to see who they have offers from. All recruiting starts on Twitter. You can probably tell every kid each coach is recruiting just by seeing who they follow on Twitter.

Y’all feel free to carry on. Just been reading a lot lately and saw my name mentioned. I have no regrets about resigning. Also for the record I was there on staff for around 6 months and worked directly with the QBs. I volunteered the first two months or so as that was part of the deal when the job was offered. It was never meant to be a full time volunteer position and I wasn’t a volunteer when I resigned. I go to the coaches convention almost every year and have multiple friends on D1 staffs right now including old college team mates on staff at Houston, Auburn, Toledo, and my old college room mate at Memphis. Have friends at multiple others now as well. This position kind of fell in to my lap so I wanted to give it a shot, I’m glad I did it as I now know 100% that I’m happier being a family man living in southern WV. Speaking of which, my little girls are ready to go out and gather eggs from the chickens so I’m going to go back to my quiet little life.

God Bless you all and Go Herd!

Thanks for posting Hawk.  Glad you made the decision that's best for your family.  I tried getting in FT at HS level and even got teacher certified but it didn't work out and, in all honesty, it was a blessing in disguise for the reasons you mention. Most coaches I have met at all levels love working with young men while their love for the game/motivation varies depending on their situation.  I am a strategic junky and always looked for better ways to do things.  Thankfully I am in a career that requires a good bit of strategy as well.  We all want what's best for MU even if we are looking through different lenses at times. Like any career the degree of positive impact you have on people is among most important.

[The E-Man]

I’m coming out of the wood work for this one. Probably won’t respond anymore either. I read the board but this is first time I’ve logged on in months maybe even a year or more I don’t know.

For the record, yes I resigned. My wife wasn’t happy and I wasn’t able to spend much time with my kids. Believe it or not, one of the reasons I resigned is one of the long time defensive coaches at VT and I had a big heart to heart. He informed me that he does have some regrets with how much family time he missed out on through coaching. Seeing his kids all grown up made him realize just how much he had missed. All I’ve ever wanted to be was a great husband and father. With that in mind I decided to resign and move back home to Wayne County to raise my kids in a rural setting surrounded by countless family members and cousins they see every day.

Now having all of that out of the way. I’m not here to bash any coaches. Wouldn’t do any good for me to do that. All I will say is there are plenty of people on this board who know just as much about football as ANY D1 coach. Honestly, it’s not rocket science. You might have different terminology but it’s the same stuff for the most part. Obviously there’s different styles/mindsets. They might know their offense/defense philosophies better but that doesn’t mean they know football better than anyone on this board.

IMO, the biggest difference between a good coach at this level and a bad to mediocre coach is the organization, attention to detail, ability to motivate, and the ability to TEACH. It doesn’t matter how much you know if you can’t effectively communicate that information. As for head coaches it’s all about assembling a good staff who does those things effectively. In game coaching the HC should be able to recognize momentum swings, properly call timeouts/manage the clock, know when to go for it on 4th/2point conversion (there’s actually a service who prepares a book before each game based on each team telling you to go for it in this situation based on weather, yard line, D&D, time left, and how you rate your kicker.)

Probably the most important of all are the drills within your scheme and effectively using practice time. Breaking down each portion of your offense/defense with drills is extremely important.

I will also say that the lack of full support staff honestly is a big concern of mine for Marshall. The more people you have to break down film/tendencies the better.

As for recruiting which is obviously important. Believe it or not when a new recruit is mentioned the staff will literally go to their 247 account to see who they have offers from. All recruiting starts on Twitter. You can probably tell every kid each coach is recruiting just by seeing who they follow on Twitter.

Y’all feel free to carry on. Just been reading a lot lately and saw my name mentioned. I have no regrets about resigning. Also for the record I was there on staff for around 6 months and worked directly with the QBs. I volunteered the first two months or so as that was part of the deal when the job was offered. It was never meant to be a full time volunteer position and I wasn’t a volunteer when I resigned. I go to the coaches convention almost every year and have multiple friends on D1 staffs right now including old college team mates on staff at Houston, Auburn, Toledo, and my old college room mate at Memphis. Have friends at multiple others now as well. This position kind of fell in to my lap so I wanted to give it a shot, I’m glad I did it as I now know 100% that I’m happier being a family man living in southern WV. Speaking of which, my little girls are ready to go out and gather eggs from the chickens so I’m going to go back to my quiet little life.

God Bless you all and Go Herd!

It's good seeing you Fly. I just came back myself like a week ago..

[coalherd]

Can't say that I "fully" qualify as an arm chair coach, but I am half way through reading "Coaching for Dummies"!  ;)

[Big City]

Can't say that I "fully" qualify as an arm chair coach, but I am half way through reading "Coaching for Dummies"!  ;)

Coalherd- you win the internet for today!  ;D

[goherd24]

We had one guy on this board who actually became a coach I believe. Handle was Flyhawk I think.

He was a good d2 player, done some high school coaching for a couple years as an OC, and was a volunteer coach at VT for several months to my knowledge. You don't have to be a coach or have a coaching career to know the game of football, or even a player for that matter. Doubt that? Do a quick search of coaches in college or pros that never played football. I would give you some names but i want you to shock yourself.

Edit, just saw where I echoed flyhawks post. It really isn't rocket science. The game is fairly simple. And you're absolute idiot if you don't believe that coaching is the biggest factor in a college (or even pro) teams success. Plenty of jimmy and joes teams go home losers every week. Extreme talent differences can make up for bad coaching sometimes, but great coaching staffs always give their teams a chance.

[herdloyal]

My Best Man in my wedding and a Michigan fan said he watched a good portion of the Boise game and other than the Boise QB our run game was the key to winning in the first half! They made adjustments that only yielded 7pts in the second! IG is not our QB of the future bad mechanics! He noticed the blown calls and mistakes took its toll! Marshall should have won 14-7!

[coalherd]

It's good seeing you Fly. I just came back myself like a week ago..

Glad you're back, E.  Your passion for the Herd was missed, IMO.  Figured, and hoped, that once the sounds from football fields and the bounces of basketballs rolled around that you would reappear!  Got the feeling that we may be in for a pretty good all around year, sports wise, in Herd Country!!  LETS GO HERD!!!!!!!!!

[Herdalum94]

Can't say I know much about coaching but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night! 😉👍

[The E-Man]

Glad you're back, E.  Your passion for the Herd was missed, IMO.  Figured, and hoped, that once the sounds from football fields and the bounces of basketballs rolled around that you would reappear!  Got the feeling that we may be in for a pretty good all around year, sports wise, in Herd Country!!  LETS GO HERD!!!!!!!!!

Thank you, brother! I've missed my Herd family.

[HerdBlizz]

Can't say that I "fully" qualify as an arm chair coach, but I am half way through reading "Coaching for Dummies"!  ;)

Can you loan it to Doc when your finished

[The E-Man]

Can you loan it to Doc when your finished

LMAO, good one! ;D