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  • Not bad.  Happy to see 18 in the coaches poll though.
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP
    « Reply #1 on: October 25, 2020, 01:31:27 PM »
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  • I bet you are still looking at last week's.  Doesn't look like they've published this week's.
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP
    « Reply #2 on: October 25, 2020, 01:33:07 PM »
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  • Not bad.  Happy to see 18 in the coaches poll though.

    The AP poll doesn't release until 2pm.
     

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    Re: #22 Still in the AP
    « Reply #3 on: October 25, 2020, 01:51:58 PM »
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  • Chuck Landon tweeted it 20 minutes ago.  So, there is a possibility it isn’t true 😉
     

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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. Revised (actually # 19)
    « Reply #4 on: October 25, 2020, 02:09:17 PM »
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  • Go Figure......Landon’s tweet was wrong.  #19 in AP
     
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #5 on: October 25, 2020, 02:25:31 PM »
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  • Boise now in at 25, they shouldn’t jump us if we win out. SMU now below us leaving only Cincy ahead in the G5 but looking pretty unshakable at 7. USC moves up 3 spots even though they still haven’t played a game (insert massive eye roll)
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #6 on: October 25, 2020, 02:32:22 PM »
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  • Boise now I’m at 25, they shouldn’t jump us if we win out. SMU stopped below leaving only Cincy ahead in the G5 but looking pretty unshakable at 7. USC moves up 3 spots even though they still haven’t played a game (insert massive eye roll)

    If Boise beats BYU, they may.  We really need App State to win out.
     

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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #7 on: October 25, 2020, 02:54:31 PM »
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  • We've got a good chance to move up at least one because always overrated Penn State gets to play the Buckeyes next week and their right ahead of us in both polls.

    Question is, how many folks want to hold their noses and root for the Pouties to beat Kansas State, just above Penn State?  (Not me).
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #8 on: October 25, 2020, 02:57:30 PM »
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  • There is Zero chance we get a NY6 bowl even if we win out. One of the AAC teams would go regardless.  Our schedule will not come close to getting it.
     

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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #9 on: October 25, 2020, 03:08:01 PM »
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  • There is Zero chance we get a NY6 bowl even if we win out. One of the AAC teams would go regardless.  Our schedule will not come close to getting it.

    Unlike 2014, I think we have a really good argument if we win out. We schedule the teams we needed to schedule, but they did not play us because of COVID. That's not going to get us to a NY6 bowl, but if we make it known it will get a better bowl matchup.

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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #10 on: October 25, 2020, 03:32:40 PM »
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  • Unlike 2014, I think we have a really good argument if we win out. We schedule the teams we needed to schedule, but they did not play us because of COVID. That's not going to get us to a NY6 bowl, but if we make it known it will get a better bowl matchup.

    That is debatable. But actually I don’t think we have any argument. We played Appy St and everyone else on the schedule is just Horrible. They will take a one or even two loss Cincy, Memphis, UCF type team any day over us. They play 4-5-6 tough games a year at least and we had one decent opponent. CUSA is killing us in that regard and more than ever this year.
     
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #11 on: October 25, 2020, 04:00:26 PM »
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  • If we are the highest rated G5 champion, they have no choice but to take us.  However, it is the Playoff Committee (or whatever they are called?) whose ranking count, not any other poll.

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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #12 on: October 25, 2020, 04:02:31 PM »
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  • There is Zero chance we get a NY6 bowl even if we win out. One of the AAC teams would go regardless.  Our schedule will not come close to getting it.

    Totally depends on how it shakes out.  If UC wins out, they will deserve it and get it.  If they don’t win out or another team wins that league it’s not nearly as near and tidy as you say.
     
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #13 on: October 25, 2020, 04:22:04 PM »
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  • There is Zero chance we get a NY6 bowl even if we win out. One of the AAC teams would go regardless.  Our schedule will not come close to getting it.

    It's unlikely, but it's definitely more than zero.  The highest ranked CONFERENCE champion gets the access bowl spot.  IF Appy State wins out and claims the SunBelt--which makes our victory over them look good--and UAB wins out and at least looks like a breathing opponent in the Champ game, THEN we have a chance if AAC schools knock each other out and the underdog wins their champ game.

    But no matter what the Herd has to take care of business the next 4 weeks and win by 3 TDs each game with the D holding teams to around 10 points.
     
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #14 on: October 25, 2020, 04:25:44 PM »
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  • It's unlikely, but it's definitely more than zero.  The highest ranked CONFERENCE champion gets the access bowl spot.  IF Appy State wins out and claims the SunBelt--which makes our victory over them look good--and UAB wins out and at least looks like a breathing opponent in the Champ game, THEN we have a chance if AAC schools knock each other out and the underdog wins their champ game.

    But no matter what the Herd has to take care of business the next 4 weeks and win by 3 TDs each game with the D holding teams to around 10 points.


    I’ll guarantee you a one loss Cincy will go over an undefeated herd. Memphis, ucf, Tulsa, SMU, houston  etc is light years ahead of our schedule.
     

    Offline goherd24

    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #15 on: October 25, 2020, 04:29:13 PM »
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  • I’ll guarantee you a one loss Cincy will go over an undefeated herd. Memphis, ucf, Tulsa, SMU, houston  etc is light years ahead of our schedule.

    Guarantee you they won't if that loss is in the title game
     
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #16 on: October 25, 2020, 04:54:45 PM »
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  • Totally depends on how it shakes out.  If UC wins out, they will deserve it and get it.  If they don’t win out or another team wins that league it’s not nearly as near and tidy as you say.

    If UC wins out, they may end up in top 4. If that happens wouldn’t someone else represent the G5 in the NY Bowls?
     
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #17 on: October 25, 2020, 05:07:52 PM »
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  • I don't see any scenario where a G5 plays in the playoffs without a several undefeated seasons in a row.
     

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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #18 on: October 25, 2020, 05:08:29 PM »
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  • There is Zero chance we get a NY6 bowl even if we win out. One of the AAC teams would go regardless.  Our schedule will not come close to getting it.

    In a normal season I would agree with you, but against all expectations, we are already highly ranked, in spite of our weak schedule. I think people in the wider CFB world are actually higher on us right now than we are as Herd fans. We may or may not deserve it, but the national TV exposure early on did a lot for us.

    If Cincy is the only G5 ranked ahead of us, they could even be unbeaten and then lose the AAC championship game and we could get in. 
     
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #19 on: October 25, 2020, 06:39:38 PM »
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  • Just think we spanked Cinci all not to long ago. 
     

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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #20 on: October 25, 2020, 06:41:37 PM »
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  • I look for UC to be the first (if I remember correctly) G5 to be in the top six, and another G5 to get the G5 spot.  I think they are that good, and will continue to prove it through out the remainder of the year.
     
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #21 on: October 25, 2020, 06:48:11 PM »
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  • In a normal season I would agree with you, but against all expectations, we are already highly ranked, in spite of our weak schedule. I think people in the wider CFB world are actually higher on us right now than we are as Herd fans. We may or may not deserve it, but the national TV exposure early on did a lot for us.

    If Cincy is the only G5 ranked ahead of us, they could even be unbeaten and then lose the AAC championship game and we could get in.

    If Cincy loses one game we will not get in. I’m just telling you the truth. They will not drop them below us with their schedule. It would be nice but it ain’t happening.
     

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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #22 on: October 25, 2020, 08:17:31 PM »
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  • I’ll guarantee you a one loss Cincy will go over an undefeated herd. Memphis, ucf, Tulsa, SMU, houston  etc is light years ahead of our schedule.

    Not if their one loss is in the championship game.

    There's way too much football left to be played at this point. All we can do is keep winning and most importantly, enjoy the fact our team is back to being nationally relevant.
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #23 on: October 25, 2020, 08:24:49 PM »
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  • Cincy has played:

    Austin Peay
    Army
    USF
    SMU


    Let's stop pretending they have beaten Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, and Notre Dame.

    Honestly don't care at all. If we win out this season we are pretty much guaranteed to finish the season ranked in the 10-15 range which would be phenomenal. This would also set us up to be a potential pre-season Top 25 team next year.....and we have Wells for four more years.
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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
    « Reply #24 on: October 25, 2020, 09:49:48 PM »
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  • Not if their one loss is in the championship game.

    There's way too much football left to be played at this point. All we can do is keep winning and most importantly, enjoy the fact our team is back to being nationally relevant.

    First of all, the HERD has to take care of business in its remaining games; that's a given.

    Second, BYU needs to beat Boise, especially if the Broncos end up the MW champions.

    Third, Appy needs to win out, including the championship, in the Sun Belt.

    Finally, the American has to have things fall a certain way.  Right now, Cincy is unbeaten, with six games left:  next 3 are at home, including games with Houston and Memphis, both of whom have 1 loss.  Then Cincy finishes with 3 on the road, including at UCF and at Tulsa.  Tulsa and SMU are the other AAC teams with 1 loss currently; UCF has 2 losses, both in conference.  Those one loss teams are capable of beating any other team in the AAC, IMO.  Same can be said about UCF, who plays at Houston this week end and hosts Cincy on Nov. 21st.  Tulsa has YET to play a game at home and its near the end of October; lost a close game AT OK State, and beat both Florida schools in the AAC ON the road!  Tulane has 4 league losses but averages over 30 ppg.  Navy can be capable, and offensively ECU can be dangerous if their regular QB is healthy.  If UC has one loss and makes it to the AAC championship game against a 2 or 3 loss team, and LOSES, then the HERD has a shot, IMO!!  Just need teams in that league to cannibalize each other.
     

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    Re: #22 Still in the AP. (Actually #19. Bad info from Chuck Landon....)
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