Topic: Toledo Game Thread

[coalherd]

Well, we stayed consistent, I'll say that.  First guy to get the ball out of bounds just dribbles around and then drives to the hole and takes the shot.  NO passes, No ball movement, just a "hero ball" play!

[herdorbust]

Beyers🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[Herdiowa]

West has been getting abused all game and can’t make a shot. He needs to be pulled.

[herdfan48]

That silly 3 at the end of the 1st half will be the difference in the game. There was no excuse for Toledo to have ever gotten a shot off.


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[HerdHopeful07]

Well, we stayed consistent, I'll say that.  First guy to get the ball out of bounds just dribbles around and then drives to the whole and takes the shot.  NO passes, No ball movement, just a "hero ball" play!

The west play was drawn that way. They shifted the toledo defense to one end of the court and west had a 1 v 1. He just missed.

[lexkyherdfan]

Terrible play call at the end of the game. No way should the smallest guy in the floor drive the ball. If they were setting up isolation I would have preferred to see Kinsey as they would have doubled him and kick to someone else for a midrange jumper.

[coalherd]

Jackson, their senior, stepping up.  West, unfortunately, not so much.  Miss a layup. They miss a 3 and get the Offensive rebound.  Then they get a give and go layup with NO HERD D.  Toledo is a well coached team.

[herdorbust]

We have one coach that won’t let his players play and is conservative and one that won’t discipline his players no matter how many mistakes and bad shots they throw up. Talk about different.

[herdfan48]

Ridiculous performance tonight


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[Garbanjo]

Really bad loss. Embarrassing

No way this year’s team should lose at home to these clowns

[Big City]

Hard pill to swallow. Toledo. On Marshall’s home court.

They owned that OT.

[goherd24]

West doesn't need to be taking upwards of 20, shots a game. Turned into streetball offense again for most of the night.

I don't care what anyone says, this team can't shoot a 3, Dantoni can't draw up a good play ever out of a timeout (except the ncaa inbound against Wichita State) and he also doesn't know what a timeout is during an opponents run.

[coalherd]

Jackson hasn't missed a FT all year.  Took over this game by basically abusing D'Antoni's so called "man to man" defense!  12 points in OT by Jackson.  Steals the ball with 30 seconds to go.

Herd needs to take a look a lot of things, starting with the recruiting philosophy, IMO, if we're ever going to be anything but mired in obscurity in D1 ball, much less get to the point where we take the step to "go to the next level"!!

[herdfan129]

Terrible play call at the end of the game. No way should the smallest guy in the floor drive the ball. If they were setting up isolation I would have preferred to see Kinsey as they would have doubled him and kick to someone else for a midrange jumper.

I have no problem with West taking that shot most games but he was clearly frustrated and not on top of his game tonight. Definitely should have been someone else TONIGHT!

[The E-Man]

We have to step up and win these type of games, if we're going to make some noise!

[Big City]

I have no problem with West taking that shot most games but he was clearly frustrated and not on top of his game tonight. Definitely should have been someone else TONIGHT!

Ball should have gone to Kinsey. Next question.


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[MidlandKnight]

That silly 3 at the end of the 1st half will be the difference in the game. There was no excuse for Toledo to have ever gotten a shot off.


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As bad as we played tonight (and we did). That was the game right there, the fact that we shot a 3 pointer with 7 seconds and then allowed them to get a 3 off on the other end is pathetic!

[parshall2marshall]

Soft. Not ready to play. West misses up to 10 layups. UT: 6 fouls in the final 25 MINUTES.

Good games by Williams and Beyers.

[The E-Man]

Ball should have gone to Kinsey. Next question.


I’m gonna need to go to confession because I’m still %^&*ing cussing

No doubt because Kinsey creates a mismatch. I didnt understand DD strategy in  the end...

[coalherd]

Surprisingly, shooting pretty even, efficiency wise.  Both teams, 45% from the field, TU, 33% from 3 land, Herd, 32%.  Herd won 82% to 78% from charity stripe.

One big problem, out rebounded 48-37. TU's freshman guard, 6'4", led everyone, with 14.  Taylor led us with 8.  Points out some of our front line weaknesses or else when we jack up shots, 3s so quickly, No one has an opportunity to get, and establish position for, rebounds!!

[goherd73]

Danny says we'll probably play Sunday at the Cam but not quite ready to announce.

[parshall2marshall]

As bad as we played tonight (and we did). That was the game right there, the fact that we shot a 3 pointer with 7 seconds and then allowed them to get a 3 off on the other end is pathetic!

Ended both halves with terribly stupid decisions on the court. I think Taylor and Marko are our smartest players basketball-wise. If only they had the athleticism of many of our other players.

[coalherd]

Outscored 16-7 in a 5 minute OT.  They scoring at the OT rate translates to a 64 point result in a 20 minute half.  Pretty much indicates how much "D" was played by Coach D's team in OT!!

[herdfan48]

The interior D was nonexistent


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[Herdalum83]

For the first time all year we got hammered on the boards. 48-37. On top of that we shot 17 free throws in the first half. We shot 0 in the second half and OT combined. That's because we settled for FAR too many jumpers.