Topic: If anyone cares Herd-RMU thread

[Herdalum83]

Robert Morris isn't very good, but this is a good game to 1. Get Williams going offensively and 2. Get young players some confidence

[marshall fanatic]

We are a very talented and quick team. Will cause many teams in the CUSA problems.

[Gaylen]

Devon Collins getting some playing time.

[Gaylen]

Much better. Maybe loss to Toledo woke us up. Or maybe RMU just sucks. Either way I'll take the win.

[Buffalo Bop]

Also George not playing today and IB still out.

[sardistim]

This was a good win to get the taste of the Toledo game out of our mouths.  Another good defensive game.  Offensively move the ball better.  Notice how Kinsey just let the game come to him instead of pushing it.  When he doesn't have to score he is content to let the team process work.  Notice that Williams--who had the hot hand--got the most shots in the first half.  Sign of a good team.  Lots of assists.

Only negative was the turnovers.  Our sloppiness with the ball drives me crazy and must keep DD up at night.  If we could cut out the sloppy turnovers--which often happen with just plain bad decisions and when Beyers tries to dribble :)

Play another great game on Tuesday and then use the Christmas break to mentally prepare for the CUSA schedule.  It's going to be hard to win 2 games in a row against every opponent.

[Buffalo Bop]

Goran still needs to develop a pair hands. He really struggles catching and holding onto the ball.

[Big City]

Also George not playing today and IB still out.

Any idea what’s going on with either of these two?

[Buffalo Bop]

Any idea what’s going on with either of these two?

Darius is out due to getting hit in the face with an elbow in the Toledo game. I’d say for precautionary reasons. I think IB has a sore knee/ankle problem.

[Buffalo Bop]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7DZIod_Er34

Robert Morris press conference

[Herdmeister]

That’s on DD

Coach him up or bench him

Go Herd!

He took your advice and benched him. As you recall he did the same thing last year about 50% through the conference season. I was at the practice in Birmingham the day after the MTSU game that he did it. Danny exploded on him. Hecsat for a few games until he started to get himself under control

[herdorbust]

Goran still needs to develop a pair hands. He really struggles catching and holding onto the ball.

His hands are horrible. I’m just so glad we got Oak or our inside game for the future would be looking bad. He is going to be a warrior with a year under his belt and another 15 pounds of muscle. Collins will be a good 3/4 player for us down the road. We have got to get a good ball handing PG. I know we may not go by names like PG in this system but whatever you want to call it, we need a good handle guy running the show. And we need Early to develop. Against a really good quality defensive team we will struggle because nobody handles well enough to create and get to the rim.

[MicDrass1]

West stats - 14-9-8-7  Impressive!!!

[coalherd]

His hands are horrible. I’m just so glad we got Oak or our inside game for the future would be looking bad. He is going to be a warrior with a year under his belt and another 15 pounds of muscle. Collins will be a good 3/4 player for us down the road. We have got to get a good ball handing PG. I know we may not go by names like PG in this system but whatever you want to call it, we need a good handle guy running the show. And we need Early to develop. Against a really good quality defensive team we will struggle because nobody handles well enough to create and get to the rim.

That's why, herdorbust, I've got to think if Danny brings anyone else in for 21-22, it would be a solid all around guard in the, hopefully, 6'2" to 6'4" range, with a good outside shot, and solid ball handling and passing skills.  Again, don't know how many of our key seniors plan, or will plan, to return in 21-22, if any.  But hopefully the Coaching staff has some contingency plan, with a player or two in mind that they could recruit, if need be.

[coalherd]

Much better. Maybe loss to Toledo woke us up. Or maybe RMU just sucks. Either way I'll take the win.

Robert Morris is usually a competitive team in their league, Northeast Conference, I believe.  We needed this game.

Funny thing is that when the "Big Time" programs play the Robert Morris type teams of the world, it doesn't hurt their overall ranking or reputation.  Guess you all know that WVU was suppose to play them, I believe, to home their home season in Morganhole, but the game was cancelled due to COVID issues, I believe.

Also, anyone notice that we were suppose to play early on this season a game with Coppin State, who had to back out due to, again, COVID related reasons.  But did you see where within a week or so after our postponement Coppin ended up in Durham, NC, playing Duke?  And they only lost by 10 to the Dukies!! Additionally, as of now, Coppin is either 1-7 or 1-6, having played about twice the number of games as MU has played.  Sure a quick recovery from all that COVID that kept them away from Huntington.  They just recently in the last couple of days lost to VA Tech down in Blacksburg.  Guess all that medicine, $$$$$$, those ACC schools could provide Coppin was the "right stuff", recovery wise.  Guess coming to the CAM just wasn't the "right prescription"!!

[Herdmeister]

Robert Morris is usually a competitive team in their league, Northeast Conference, I believe.  We needed this game.

Funny thing is that when the "Big Time" programs play the Robert Morris type teams of the world, it doesn't hurt their overall ranking or reputation.  Guess you all know that WVU was suppose to play them, I believe, to home their home season in Morganhole, but the game was cancelled due to COVID issues, I believe.

Also, anyone notice that we were suppose to play early on this season a game with Coppin State, who had to back out due to, again, COVID related reasons.  But did you see where within a week or so after our postponement Coppin ended up in Durham, NC, playing Duke?  And they only lost by 10 to the Dukies!! Additionally, as of now, Coppin is either 1-7 or 1-6, having played about twice the number of games as MU has played.  Sure a quick recovery from all that COVID that kept them away from Huntington.  They just recently in the last couple of days lost to VA Tech down in Blacksburg.  Guess all that medicine, $$$$$$, those ACC schools could provide Coppin was the "right stuff", recovery wise.  Guess coming to the CAM just wasn't the "right prescription"!!

They won the NICLAS year.. This year they have moved to the Horizon. Pre season picked #4. Wright State the projected champ

[herdfan129]

Great team win today. Williams not only shot the ball well, he played a really good game over all. Lots of hustle, and active on defense. Was very happy to see this.

Loved seeing the young guys getting some minutes this game.

If we raise enough money through the tip-off club, would they be allowed to use that money for an extra scholarship in this class? If so, I would be interested in donating towards that.

[Herdmeister]

Great team win today. Williams not only shot the ball well, he played a really good game over all. Lots of hustle, and active on defense. Was very happy to see this.

Loved seeing the young guys getting some minutes this game.

If we raise enough money through the tip-off club, would they be allowed to use that money for an extra scholarship in this class? If so, I would be interested in donating towards that.

I would doubt that. As we know most tip off money goes to air travel. Big Green funds as many scholarships as possible. The majority however, come from the general budget

[lexkyherdfan]

I would doubt that. As we know most tip off money goes to air travel. Big Green funds as many scholarships as possible. The majority however, come from the general budget

and as we have discussed before... people that get mad and pull their money hurt all programs at Marshall not just football.  I don't get it at all.  Sure don't go to football games, don't buy football tickets as I completely understand the frustration and issues with football but don't stop giving to the Big Green.  Once they stop it is harder to get them back no matter how many games are won or who the coach is.  I know this from first hand experience trying to get fans to donate.  there are way too many fans that talk a big game but when it is time to open up their checkbook, they never write the check. 

[herdfan129]

and as we have discussed before... people that get mad and pull their money hurt all programs at Marshall not just football.  I don't get it at all.  Sure don't go to football games, don't buy football tickets as I completely understand the frustration and issues with football but don't stop giving to the Big Green.  Once they stop it is harder to get them back no matter how many games are won or who the coach is.  I know this from first hand experience trying to get fans to donate.  there are way too many fans that talk a big game but when it is time to open up their checkbook, they never write the check.

We have no choice when our AD refuses to make a change. We vote with our money, period.

[lexkyherdfan]

We have no choice when our AD refuses to make a change. We vote with our money, period.

then don't complain when other sports suffer.  You do have a choice...you don't support the football program.  it is that simple.  Give money to other sports or BG.  Pulling money from the Big Green does nothing but hurt the other sports even more.

Plus a significant amount of people don't ever come back.  If they did we wouldn't be sitting around 3,500 BG members.  It isn't for lack of effort either. 

[herdorbust]

then don't complain when other sports suffer.  You do have a choice...you don't support the football program.  it is that simple.  Give money to other sports or BG.  Pulling money from the Big Green does nothing but hurt the other sports even more.

Plus a significant amount of people don't ever come back.  If they did we wouldn't be sitting around 3,500 BG members.  It isn't for lack of effort either.

Then maybe the AD should what is right? He can stop it if he cares about the dept he runs.

[pembrook burrows III]

Agree with lexkyherdfan.

As to the Robert Morris game, I thought we looked sloppy and undisciplined. This was not the same effort we were seeing in the first four games. And the so-called depth ain't all that. I hope Darius is back in action tomorrow.

[herdorbust]

Agree with lexkyherdfan.

As to the Robert Morris game, I thought we looked sloppy and undisciplined. This was not the same effort we were seeing in the first four games. And the so-called depth ain't all that. I hope Darius is back in action tomorrow.

I agree. A win is a win but the play against Toledo and Robert Morris won’t win many games against solid legit teams. We just don’t have a guy that can’t penetrate and create. We only have 4 guys that can even attempt it, west, Kinsey, Taylor and Early. Early isn’t ready yet. Kinsey still not a great ball handler in traffic. West is ok but struggles against lock down defenders. Actually Taylor is probably the best but just very seldom does it. I’ve said since Jon left that we are missing that straw to stir the drink. Danny has got to find that guy that is a created and ball handler for his offense to work the way it should. You can get by against the mid level teams but really good defensive teams we will struggle bigtime.

[coalherd]

Agree with the preceding post.  Danny better use this game with UNC-A as a final game prep or scrimmage for the LA Tech series.  Play up to 7-8 players whom he expects to play the most in CUSA games.  Don't worry and the other 5 or so players and walkons.  They can get their work in at practice, individual work, etc.