Topic: Zamora in Portal

[MarshallHerdFan99]

https://twitter.com/qbpete/status/1600197915992956930?s=46&t=Jil-sfuj3XsUaNE1B2sP2A


I mean we knew it would happen out of one or two of the freshmen. Probably means Cole was ahead.


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[gochneaur645]

Portal Pete

[svherd]

Wow. So much for working hard and winning the job. The portal does suck for younger guys and HS recruits coming in but did he think he would be the starter right out of the gate? Best to him though.

[HoPPy785]

Backs up what someone had heard about Cole or Huff has made it clear we will hit the portal for a starter. I suppose it's also as simple as he didn't like it here.

[puma]

I can't say that I'm terribly surprised. I think the old way of keeping 6 QBs in the stable with 5 of them battling out hoping for a shot in 2 or 3 years is going the way of the dodo.

Fancher is the one to take the job from going into 2023. But at the same time Huff might look for a traditional pocket passer from the portal and we all know there's going to be a lot of pressure to give Cole a shot down the road. I can't blame the guy for getting antsy.

[Scottyo614]

Backs up what someone had heard about Cole or Huff has made it clear we will hit the portal for a starter. I suppose it's also as simple as he didn't like it here.

Posted in another thread, Pennington was the scout team player of the year. Clearly has a leg up on the freshmen QBs. Fancher is young, the writing is on the wall.

I don't think anyone saw Cam making the jump he did.

[FilmJunky]

Cam Fancher. QB1 for the foreseeable future. 3 years left to play.

[Gaylen]

Zamora could go to Glenville if he could beat out the freshman starter they had there.

[MUonium]

absolutely no surprise to me and i wish him all success.  my hope is that our QB roster in fall camp is, as a whole, better than 2022 and that's what i expect as a Herd fan, from our coaching staff for everything that's within their control. 

[herdorbust2]

I think EMAN source may be right. Cole may be the guy.

[MarshallHerdFan99]

Cam Fancher. QB1 for the foreseeable future. 3 years left to play.

NO THANK YOU. COLE IN ?23 ALL THE WAY


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[FilmJunky]

I think EMAN source may be right. Cole may be the guy.

Marshall fans want another Pennington at QB more than they want to win the Sun Belt.

[herdorbust2]

Marshall fans want another Pennington at QB more than they want to win the Sun Belt.

I don't think you want him even if he is the best QB. Chad take your lunch money at some point?

[Johns1124]

I don't think you want him even if he is the best QB. Chad take your lunch money at some point?

What makes you think he is the best QB?

[GreenDaddy]

I hope Cole Pennington is the real deal. However, I think he will have a hard time unseating Cam Fancher next year. Cam has gotten a lot of experience this season, and honestly looks like he is progressing every week.

That said, QB2 is always one play away from being the starter. With the way Fancher runs, we really need a solid backup in place.

[svherd]

Cole will likely compete for the #2 spot next year and possibly starter the year after that. IF, Fancher doesn't improve his passing skills and/or Huff hits the portal for a QB.

[HoPPy785]

Cam certainly made strides, but he is no way good enough as a passer to go ahead and say he's locked in at QB1. Not saying he won't be QB1 but it's not like we have an obvious answer right now. I suspect we go with the better passer, not better overall athlete.

[MUonium]

while i would never solely rely on a true run-first dually, Fancher and the plays devised soley for him helped get many 1st downs and kept marshes to the endzone alive and may have been key to get 8 wins.  on the other had, although somewhat improved as time went on, his arm was why his runs looked so good and were absolutely necessary

[MUther]

Cam certainly made strides, but he is no way good enough as a passer to go ahead and say he's locked in at QB1. Not saying he won't be QB1 but it's not like we have an obvious answer right now. I suspect we go with the better passer, not better overall athlete.

Meanwhile every college in the country is seeking a legitimate dual threat QB   ::)

Not to mention Fancher was making some of the prettiest throws I've seen by the last 2-3 games.  Our pure passers get flustered and make mistakes.  You know what Cam wasn't doing?  Throwing interceptions.

Unless he comes down with MSS (Marshall Sophomore Syndrome) he's the guy and has everything we need.

[HoPPy785]

Meanwhile every college in the country is seeking a legitimate dual threat QB   ::)

Not to mention Fancher was making some of the prettiest throws I've seen by the last 2-3 games.  Our pure passers get flustered and make mistakes.  You know what Cam wasn't doing?  Throwing interceptions.

Unless he comes down with MSS (Marshall Sophomore Syndrome) he's the guy and has everything we need.

I understand what you're saying but Fancher only threw for better than 55% completion percentage in two games of meaningful snaps and only once over 60%. That has to get better. I'm certain he will work hard to get better and if he does that's awesome. Legs aren't enough to reach the heights our fans want, unless we change our offense around.

[elginherd]

I understand what you're saying but Fancher only threw for better than 55% completion percentage in two games of meaningful snaps and only once over 60%. That has to get better. I'm certain he will work hard to get better and if he does that's awesome. Legs aren't enough to reach the heights our fans want, unless we change our offense around.

The bright spot with his completion rate is that Fancher was willing to throw the ball out of bounds to avoid losses.

[FilmJunky]

I don't think you want him even if he is the best QB. Chad take your lunch money at some point?

No, but I also don't think the coaching staff is full of complete idiots. Trends are trends. Cole did not enroll early like a couple of the others to gain reps in spring ball and he was not on the 3 deep this year. I hope by all means the kid is a stud as much as the rest of you, but typically in college football someone who does not enroll early and is nowhere on the 3 deep depth chart typically does not come in and dominate.

[herdorbust2]

No, but I also don't think the coaching staff is full of complete idiots. Trends are trends. Cole did not enroll early like a couple of the others to gain reps in spring ball and he was not on the 3 deep this year. I hope by all means the kid is a stud as much as the rest of you, but typically in college football someone who does not enroll early and is nowhere on the 3 deep depth chart typically does not come in and dominate.

I'll guarantee cole probably has more football IQ than all the other QBs combined. When your dad was a great college QB and played in the NFL, your coach and a Rhodes Scholar, then you have had a LoT of info absorbed inside your brain all your life. Just don't count him out. If Cam is the guy then fine but I don't see a great passer from him even if he improves. I don't want to settle for managing games. I want a guy that can grow into putting the team on his back and winning games.

[MUinDE]

We should play the best QB, period. That may mean that we have some growing pains, but in the long run it gives Marshall the best chance to win. Programs that are focused do this. Just look at Clemson, Alabama, Michigan, etc. Those teams have all sat a tested and tenured QB starter in favor of a more dynamic and better passer. Clemson has just done it again by sitting their senior 2-year junior starter in favor of a freshman. We should embrace a change if it happens. That said, if Cam is the better QB, so be it and I support him!

[2xBison]

Sounds like Zamora may not share our various board experts analysis of Fancher's abilities