Topic: What we know after Duquesne

[goherd24]

1. We know we can beat a good team on the road, even when se don't play our best game, at least for 2/3 of the ball game.

2. Micah - killed it on the boards 16 rebounds and 8 offensive, but missed 3 easy lay ups that could have made a big difference. Take your time big fella. Come down and go up and dunk that ball.

3. Fricks - good game, we needed someone to step up and help tonight and he did it. 12 points. Those 3 missed free throws hurt my soul though.

4. Kinsey and Taylor - not their best nights, but ended up with 19 and 18. Little bit of hero ball by both in the 2nd half. No made 3s. But 7 and 6 assists and grinded.

5. Rebounding - before they started shooting desperation, we were down 14 rebounds and Duquesne beat us by 6 on the boards (tho tv said 10) and 23 offensive boards is way too many. This and our selfish play in the 2nd half is what kept this from being a 30 point blowout

6. Assists - 12 in the first half and only 2 in the 2nd half up until late in the game. Finished with 19. Alot of standing around, and hero ball in the 2nd half.

7. Curfman - did what he needed to do. Well played game. 4-6 from 3, 14 points.

8. Obinna - very slow start but had some nice pick and rolls for much needed buckets. Ended up with 11. Need him to get double digits every game.

9. Dantoni - little long before timeouts again, that 2nd half Duquesne run was brutal. I was nervous from 16 minutes in the 2nf half til the finish. But 8-1 and a nice road win.

10. Overall, if you told me, we went soft on the boards -6 (or 10 conflicting stats), sucked from the line, and only made 5 3s at 27%, i would have thought we lost. We defied the stat sheet. Made some defensive plays, forced some turnovers, while keeping ours low, and grinded out a win inside the arc, and on defense. I will take a double digit road win over a 1 loss team every day, especially with a 17-7 foul disparity before they started intentionally fouling. Fans need to get into the cam when the team plays the next home game. 2 more roadies to win, and come home 10-1. Next two against 4-6 Robert Morris (should beat them easily) and 4-6 UNCG, about the same, though UNCG can pull an upset if we sleepwalk.

Go Herd! 8-1 and although less dominating than it looked, who here would not take a 11 point road victory over 7-1 Duquesne? Get on the wagon MUTHER

[elginherd]

1. We know we can beat a good team on the road, even when se don't play our best game, at least for 2/3 of the ball game.

2. Micah - killed it on the boards 16 rebounds and 8 offensive, but missed 3 easy lay ups that could have made a big difference. Take your time big fella. Come down and go up and dunk that ball.

3. Fricks - good game, we needed someone to step up and help tonight and he did it. 12 points. Those 3 missed free throws hurt my soul though.

4. Kinsey and Taylor - not their best nights, but ended up with 19 and 18. Little bit of hero ball by both in the 2nd half. No made 3s. But 7 and 6 assists and grinded.

5. Rebounding - before they started shooting desperation, we were down 14 rebounds and Duquesne beat us by 6 on the boards (tho tv said 10) and 23 offensive boards is way too many. This and our selfish play in the 2nd half is what kept this from being a 30 point blowout

6. Assists - 12 in the first half and only 2 in the 2nd half up until late in the game. Finished with 19. Alot of standing around, and hero ball in the 2nd half.

7. Curfman - did what he needed to do. Well played game. 4-6 from 3, 14 points.

8. Obinna - very slow start but had some nice pick and rolls for much needed buckets. Ended up with 11. Need him to get double digits every game.

9. Dantoni - little long before timeouts again, that 2nd half Duquesne run was brutal. I was nervous from 16 minutes in the 2nf half til the finish. But 8-1 and a nice road win.

10. Overall, if you told me, we went soft on the boards -6 (or 10 conflicting stats), sucked from the line, and only made 5 3s at 27%, i would have thought we lost. We defied the stat sheet. Made some defensive plays, forced some turnovers, while keeping ours low, and grinded out a win inside the arc, and on defense. I will take a double digit road win over a 1 loss team every day, especially with a 17-7 foul disparity before they started intentionally fouling. Fans need to get into the cam when the team plays the next home game. 2 more roadies to win, and come home 10-1. Next two against 4-6 Robert Morris (should beat them easily) and 4-6 UNCG, about the same, though UNCG can pull an upset if we sleepwalk.

Go Herd! 8-1 and although less dominating than it looked, who here would not take a 11 point road victory over 7-1 Duquesne? Get on the wagon MUTHER

The foul discrepancy was because Marshall did commit more fouls. But there were not many bad, stupid fouls. They were fouls resulting from hustle and defensive effort. Refs did a good job tonight.
To be honest, as good as Kinsey is he is not really playing up to his potential in and around the basket. He had a right handed layup from the left side blocked which if he take one more dribble, should've been a Dr J dunk. Defensively, KInsey has really improved through the years.

[Toro Toro Taxi]

What I know after the game is DD has his best team yet . This years team compared to last years is like night and day. Im sure they will lose some they should win but as of right now , they playing some great ball .

[goherd24]

What I know after the game is DD has his best team yet . This years team compared to last years is like night and day. Im sure they will lose some they should win but as of right now , they playing some great ball .

Absolutely, they are. Massey has us 23-1 before our next loss, maybe that will happen. Toledo coming up is as good or better than any other team we will face all season.

[herdfan129]

What I know after the game is DD has his best team yet . This years team compared to last years is like night and day. Im sure they will lose some they should win but as of right now , they playing some great ball .

Just have to take it one game at a time.

[Garbanjo]

Great win!

We can get better, which is very promising. Please work on free throw shooting, use timeouts to stop opposition runs and dunks over layups when there's an option (strong to the hole).

Go Herd!

[2xBison]

Playing as I expected.  Clean up FT shooting and keep the athletic ball!!  We had spurts of dribble dribble dribble and shoot...move the ball.

This team can play a lot better... season should continue to be fun!


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[Tim Hensley]

What happened to the nay-sayers?

[herdorbust2]

What happened to the nay-sayers?

They are just waiting for the next loss. They will be back when the time is right for them.

[Rockin Herd Fan]

Like others have pointed out we didn't play their best game last night and still won by double-digits.  Duquesne's bulk gave us fits on the boards, but defensively our length gave them fits.  In the second half we threw up a lot of bad shots.  The most egregious was Kinsey's 1 on 4 break.  After the team returns from this road trip the first third of the season will be over, so the it will no longer be early in the season any longer, so this type of stuff needs to be cleaned up before conference play starts. 

[herdorbust2]

What I know is this may be the most exciting team I have ever watched. These 4 new players just fell into place with the 3 returners. If Handlogton ever starts looking more for offense he may put up a 20/20 game. He is a rebounding machine. I still think Oak needs to realize his role is defense and rebounding along with put backs. There are a few things that need to be worked on like any team. But that first half was about as well as any Marshall team I've ever seen. And they weathered the storm and played tough till the end. I really think Curfman is starting to play like we was expecting. He plays heady solid ball in all areas and hit some big 3s at clutch times. And what I like about this team is they seem to be a good road team and not just play well at home.

[muherd34]

Love to see us playing exciting and winning basketball.  Really like the team this year!  Great win and Go HERD!

[chris88]

Other than the FTs and offensive rebounds we looked like an NCAA team in the first half imo.

In second half we let them speed us up into taking many overly contested shots where another pass or two would have broken them down. Taylor took quite a few forced shots but so did others. But when the game mattered we seemed to start taking good shots again and we were fortunate that they missed some easy looks and our first half FT shooting became theirs in second.

I agree DD should have used TO's...just to settle things down on a couple of occasions.

The FT misses imo seemed like guys just rushing through process. The offensive rebounds were often due to them having real beef inside and us relying on height vs blocking out.  Duquesne has some talent and they have a really good coach. I didn't know the former Akron coach was there. The A10 doesn't seem to have a real dominant team so far and I would be surprised if Duquesne doesn't finish at least in middle of pack....which would help us a great deal. We jumped from 59 in 46 in NET after last night. SMiss is 23. Still think any at large consideration is a longshot because the margin for error with schedule is so slim but hopefully Duquesne can help us there.  If the FR 7 footer can add more strength and some moves around basket he could be scary good in time.

[Johns1124]

What happened to the nay-sayers?

There is no nay-sayers. This is a product of custom-tailored schedule. I will hold my comments when
we start playing an SB schedule. Some of these teams are doing just as well as we are with a hell of a lot tougher pre-season schedule.

[herdfan129]

There is no nay-sayers. This is a product of custom-tailored schedule. I will hold my comments when
we start playing an SB schedule. Some of these teams are doing just as well as we are with a hell of a lot tougher pre-season schedule.

Duquesne, Ohio, etc are solid teams. So is Toledo even though we haven?t played them yet.

[Herdiowa]

We are a very good team when we pass and move the ball.  We are an average team when we stand around and try to go 1 on 1.  If we ever figure this out we will score 100 pts often.  We have done it every game at some point and that?s when teams make a run at us. 

[pricherd]

I watched the postgame press conference and the Duquesne coach, though he blamed the loss on their own mistakes, said that this was the best Herd defense he had seen out of a Marshall team.  He was also very complimentary of D'Antoni's offensive scheme and spoke of the sophisticated passing drills the Herd does in warmups.

[elginherd]

We are a very good team when we pass and move the ball.  We are an average team when we stand around and try to go 1 on 1.  If we ever figure this out we will score 100 pts often.  We have done it every game at some point and that?s when teams make a run at us.

Great point.
The only one-on-one player Marshall has is Andrew Taylor and he's not great at it. When the ball moves, this team is dangerous offensively.

[herdorbust2]

There is no nay-sayers. This is a product of custom-tailored schedule. I will hold my comments when
we start playing an SB schedule. Some of these teams are doing just as well as we are with a hell of a lot tougher pre-season schedule.

Ole Johnny boy babbling as usually. Akron, Duquesne, Ohio are very quality teams. And we have destroyed them all. Also destroyed everyone else we have played. You need to find another team if you can't get behind this exciting team that is playing lights out.

[herd2win]

Some should just let it go.  There were so-called naysayers as I sure would have fallen under this category because we had reason to be critical of Dan and the team.  He has a 500 record over 8 seasons and we were terrible last year.

We heard the practice reports for years and many of those players never contributed or didn't even finish with Marshall.  If anyone is critical of this years team then they just choose to be negative.  I was very critical of Dan but he has proven to me a leopard can change his spots.  He shrunk the rotation, the new guys can actually play and we play defense and do t take 40 foot shots with no one h see the basket.

As long as I see this even if we suffer a loss it is a fun team to watch and root for.

[Luke80]

There is no nay-sayers. This is a product of custom-tailored schedule. I will hold my comments when
we start playing an SB schedule. Some of these teams are doing just as well as we are with a hell of a lot tougher pre-season schedule.

Our win last night was a Q-2 win according to Net rankings.  The only other team in the SunBelt that has a Q-2 win is Southern Miss and they just lost on the road to North West State (LA) a team with a similar net ranking to Duquesne.  JMU has played and lost to UNC and UVA, but they are also lining up against their 3rd non D-1 opponent on Saturday, they lost to Valpo (who lost to Chicago St) and they have a number of other D-1 dregs on their schedule.  Louisiana's best win was probably a neutral site win over Harvard, they have essentially played one team that is better than anyone we have played (Drake) and they lost.     

[Buffalo Bop]

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[Buffalo Bop]

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[Buffalo Bop]

Is Curfman the new Loop?

[elginherd]

Is Curfman the new Loop?

Curfman has a better handle and is better on defense than Loop...not saying Curfman is great in those two regards.