Topic: What we know after Toledo!

[Buffalo Bop]

Curfman and Kinsey can play all night, but Taylor, who handles the ball more than anyone, needs a break now and then.

I'll be surprised if Micah doesn't develop like Penava did.  He's got all the tools.

[Collis P]

I think the rotation is great except for Taylor playing too many minutes. He?s worthy of the minutes, I?m not saying that at all. Just concerned with it being such a long season or if he gets in foul trouble. I only want to see us add 1 more person to the current rotation, and that?s Early. Give him 6-10 mins a game depending on production and rest our other guards a bit.

I think Early has played good in his limited action this year.

I believe DD is starting to rotate Curfman more handling the ball and Taylor playing more of the two.  This should help! 

[chris88]

The key was Taylor getting hot and team FT shooting. He was  1-10 early and game stayed close. When he started hitting shots we continued to extend lead.  Part of that is a product of him taking too many shots on average...meaning if he's going to take as many as he does he needs to shoot a better percentage for us to be a really dangerous team. Especially from deep. He did last night after a horrid start and bonzai.  When he shoots 13 3pt shots and hits 5 it's going to be good night most nights.  If he makes 2 it will be more of a struggle. He is only shooting 30% from three on year. He took 5 more shots overall than TK and hit 3 less finishing 9/24 but after his 1/10 start he was 8/14.

TK looks much more like a pro this year. His overall game is so much better.  He lacks range on his shot but the rest of his game has been terrific. He may not be an NBA guy but he has a better shot then Elmore ever did due to a broader skill set and athleticism.

Beating Toledo helps SOS but after losses to Queens and UNCG the at large possibility is almost NIL.  But we knew that was pretty much the case when the schedule came out. Queens, btw, is 9-2 but they haven't beaten anybody except a pretty good High Point team and us. Nice that we have the Glenville scrimmage and then 10 days before Appy comes to town for first conf game. Should give team chance to refocus and recharge. SMiss looks to be maybe the best in SB so far. We'll see next week at they play at 10-1 UNLV on Thurs. UNLV has wins vs Dayton, High Point, Minnesota, and Washington State but coming off their only loss to San Francisco (9-3) 73-75.

[herdorbust2]

Marshall #68 real time rpi up 17 spots.
             #68 net rankings.
             #82 Kenpom.

[MidlandKnight]

I agree with Chris the team will go as Andy goes. Andy has a really good all around game, although there was at least two occasions he could have found Curfman for a better shot. Kinsey's game has really improved in two of the three areas necessary for him to have a legit shot at the NBA.


Going into conference play I couldn't be more pleased with this team. Yes I know the schedule is soft, but the way we are playing and how we have been beating these teams has been impressive. Danny deserves credit for making the changes many of complained about in the past, consistent starting line up, consistent rotation, more attention to defense, brought in another shooter, and not relying on a Euro pipeline.

[herdorbust2]

I agree with Chris the team will go as Andy goes. Andy has a really good all around game, although there was at least two occasions he could have found Curfman for a better shot. Kinsey's game has really improved in two of the three areas necessary for him to have a legit shot at the NBA.


Going into conference play I couldn't be more pleased with this team. Yes I know the schedule is soft, but the way we are playing and how we have been beating these teams has been impressive. Danny deserves credit for making the changes many of complained about in the past, consistent starting line up, consistent rotation, more attention to defense, brought in another shooter, and not relying on a Euro pipeline.

I agree about Andy. His only weakness is not having a pure shot. If he had a more consistant shot he would be as good as you could find anywhere. His rebounding for a guard and instincts are second to none. But people keep saying weak schedule. Again, this is basically the same schedule we always have had minus 1-2 money games. The Mac schools, Duquesne and UNCG are all quality teams and we have pounded all of them except UNCG on that 3rd game road swing when we got tired and didn't play athletic ball. If we were just winning by 2-3 points would be one thing but we are pounding these teams. Toledo beat UAB by 8 and UAB is pretty darn good. This team has the potential to be scary good by end of year. Imo the key to going to even another level is OAK, Fricks and Conner. If those 3 take another step forward then the sky is the limit.

[pembrook burrows III]

Pretty unkind evaluation of Conner?s play IMO. He had 2 assists, a steal, and 2 rebounds (Goran had 1 rebound). Conner?s steal and assist on a fast break was a very intelligent play. Most importantly, the team was +11 during Conner?s 13 minutes of play. By contrast, the team was only +3 with Obinna on the floor. Same +3 with Goran. Conner took no shots, but he chose not to force it; instead his overall play made the team better.

[herdorbust2]

Pretty unkind evaluation of Conner?s play IMO. He had 2 assists, a steal, and 2 rebounds (Goran had 1 rebound). Conner?s steal and assist on a fast break was a very intelligent play. Most importantly, the team was +11 during Conner?s 13 minutes of play. By contrast, the team was only +3 with Obinna on the floor. Same +3 with Goran. Conner took no shots, but he chose not to force it; instead his overall play made the team better.

Conner has bb IQ that is very silent. The kid is smart on the floor. The things he does doesn't always show up on stats.

[elginherd]

Conner has bb IQ that is very silent. The kid is smart on the floor. The things he does doesn't always show up on stats.

Especially playing passing lanes while the Herd's in man.

[herdfifteen]

Conner has bb IQ that is very silent. The kid is smart on the floor. The things he does doesn't always show up on stats.

I agree with you, however, with his talent I think Conner is underachieving at this point in the season.

[elginherd]

Pretty unkind evaluation of Conner?s play IMO. He had 2 assists, a steal, and 2 rebounds (Goran had 1 rebound). Conner?s steal and assist on a fast break was a very intelligent play. Most importantly, the team was +11 during Conner?s 13 minutes of play. By contrast, the team was only +3 with Obinna on the floor. Same +3 with Goran. Conner took no shots, but he chose not to force it; instead his overall play made the team better.

I take plus/minus with a grain of salt in basketball because it is so dependent on who is in thegame for the opponents, whether it's against their starters or if there's a couple subs in or not.

That said, I agree that Conner had a very good 'floor game'.

On the defensive end, Obinna had an excellent game. If he could ever develop a touch around basket, his 'plus/minus' ration would look a lot better. Every game he leaves 4-6 EASY points on the floor.

There was a subtle NBA game management deal that DD did; he basically gave Goran minutes whenever Toledo's big with the knee brace on was in there.

Toledo shot well from three...and a lot of those shots were well defended.

[herdorbust2]

I agree with you, however, with his talent I think Conner is underachieving at this point in the season.

He was coming on and then was injured a couple weeks ago. He will be fine once he gets totally healed.

[goherd24]

I know you want your guy Goran but Conner will be ten times the player he is. Let it go!!

Are you %^&* really arguing that an injured player that scored 0 points should be playing over early or other guys on the bench right now? Look, Dan is our coach, I know you wanted him fired but you're gonna have to just live with it, and you should enjoy the ride

[goherd24]

The key was Taylor getting hot and team FT shooting. He was  1-10 early and game stayed close. When he started hitting shots we continued to extend lead.  Part of that is a product of him taking too many shots on average...meaning if he's going to take as many as he does he needs to shoot a better percentage for us to be a really dangerous team. Especially from deep. He did last night after a horrid start and bonzai.  When he shoots 13 3pt shots and hits 5 it's going to be good night most nights.  If he makes 2 it will be more of a struggle. He is only shooting 30% from three on year. He took 5 more shots overall than TK and hit 3 less finishing 9/24 but after his 1/10 start he was 8/14.

TK looks much more like a pro this year. His overall game is so much better.  He lacks range on his shot but the rest of his game has been terrific. He may not be an NBA guy but he has a better shot then Elmore ever did due to a broader skill set and athleticism.

Beating Toledo helps SOS but after losses to Queens and UNCG the at large possibility is almost NIL.  But we knew that was pretty much the case when the schedule came out. Queens, btw, is 9-2 but they haven't beaten anybody except a pretty good High Point team and us. Nice that we have the Glenville scrimmage and then 10 days before Appy comes to town for first conf game. Should give team chance to refocus and recharge. SMiss looks to be maybe the best in SB so far. We'll see next week at they play at 10-1 UNLV on Thurs. UNLV has wins vs Dayton, High Point, Minnesota, and Washington State but coming off their only loss to San Francisco (9-3) 73-75.

Southern miss has played a weaker schedule than us
 Watching them, they are sorely lacking except a couple decent guards. We can and will beat USM.

[herdorbust2]

Are you %^&*ing really arguing that an injured player that scored 0 points should be playing over early or other guys on the bench right now? Look, Dan is our coach, I know you wanted him fired but you're gonna have to just live with it, and you should enjoy the ride

Lol you really crack me up. Thank God you aren't the coach is all I can say. You need to get over that one game at UTEP last year lol!! And you are right he is our coach. How about letting him decide who should play?

[Herdmeister]

Southern miss has played a weaker schedule than us
 Watching them, they are sorely lacking except a couple decent guards. We can and will beat USM.

JMU will be the first really SBC test

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[goherd24]

Lol you really crack me up. Thank God you aren't the coach is all I can say. You need to get over that one game at UTEP last year lol!! And you are right he is our coach. How about letting him decide who should play?

I'm just glad you didn't get him fired like you wanted, gonna miss you at the Sunbelt games you swore you'd never attend.

[goherd24]

JMU will be the first really SBC test

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I agree, and I think we are gonna run roughshod over this conference. No WKU, La Tech, UNT, Middle, or UTEP to have to go through anymore for a title. ODU is down, the Cam is gonna have a lot of banners hanging in it soon. Exciting times

[herdorbust2]

I'm just glad you didn't get him fired like you wanted, gonna miss you at the Sunbelt games you swore you'd never attend.

Sounds like you aren't very happy? Wanting him to change his rotations lol!!! I hope you aren't firmly in his camp because we know what "firmly" means with you.

[herdfan129]

Bust, that?s a fair question?. Are you going to come to the SBC games or not? You said you wouldn?t. Just curious if you changed your mind?

[herdorbust2]

Bust, that?s a fair question?. Are you going to come to the SBC games or not? You said you wouldn?t. Just curious if you changed your mind?

I'm Just glad you are able to go now. And I'm sure you forgot that I said if we don't take 3-4 with us? But you wouldn't leave that out to fit your agenda, would you?

[Buffalo Bop]

Kinsey may be the best player in the SBC.

[2xBison]

See guys!!!  I knew winning would bring us all together!


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[elginherd]

Sounds like you aren't very happy? Wanting him to change his rotations lol!!! I hope you aren't firmly in his camp because we know what "firmly" means with you.

DD will adjust his rotations according to matchups.
There will be games going forward where Goran will get DNP or only a very few minutes, unless disaster hits. If the opposing 5 is plodding & slow, then Goran will get more PT. If it's a small quick team or the 5 is a good, quick player, less PT.

[Luke80]

I think Goran is essentially getting the minutes that Touissant was getting a week ago.  Based on how the two of them have looked while on the floor that seems reasonable.  Note - Goran caught a lob pass and dunked it against Toledo, that is significant progress.