Topic: What we know after Uconn

[The E-Man]

Same Ole Marshall.  Still don't see a difference between Doc and Huff.  Same mid results.  Same slow offense. Same let downs against weaker opponents.  Same build up every year.  Fans show up in support than BAM we lose to a crappy MAC or CUSA team and there goes the fanbase.  Literally the exact same scenario since Doc was hired.   I'm rooting for Huff, even if he and his wife hate Huntington and are looking for the first plane out, but what was the point in making a change if nothing changes?

You assume Huff and his wife doesn't like Huntington. I can tell you, they're falling in love with Huntington and appreciates the people here. As for Doc, do you honestly believe he would have beaten Notre Dame?

[goherd24]

You assume Huff and his wife doesn't like Huntington. I can tell you, they're falling in love with Huntington and appreciates the people here. As for Doc, do you honestly believe he would have beaten Notre Dame?

Lol E, i love you but you are the only person on the planet that might believe his wife and him, love Huntington. They are gone at rhe first opportunity, even if its Vanderbilt, or Kansas or any garbage program in the p5 cellar that will write him a bigger check.

[The E-Man]

Lol E, i love you but you are the only person on the planet that might believe his wife and him, love Huntington. They are gone at rhe first opportunity, even if its Vanderbilt, or Kansas or any garbage program in the p5 cellar that will write him a bigger check.

Well that's just about any coach that would leave for a bigger payday. Coach Prime loved Jackson State, but he cut out to Colorado.

[muherd34]

Well that's just about any coach that would leave for a bigger payday. Coach Prime loved Jackson State, but he cut out to Colorado.

Who wouldn't?  If you have a chance to go from $800,000 to $3,000,000, I would not even blink an eye.  It's a no brainer.

[Flat Tire 2]

Who wouldn't?  If you have a chance to go from $800,000 to $3,000,000, I would not even blink an eye.  It's a no brainer.

Yep, anyone with common sense would take the money and run. It happens all the time even at Marshall just go down the list: Donnan; Pruett (backed out); Parrish; Chaump; Altman and Donovan. That kind of money can take care of your family and grand kids.

[Scottyo614]

I would want to point out one thing on Huff that I've not posted.

At Ga So as posted before we stayed in Savannah. They had some homestead exhibit going on at this wildlife reserve we took our daughter to.

A lady stopped us and excitedly said your team is staying in our hotel. She then proceeded for a couple of minutes to say how nice and mannerly they were. How much of a joy they were to talk to and so on. People know my thoughts on Huff, but I thought that said a lot about "his team" and him as a person.

[2xBison]

Lol E, i love you but you are the only person on the planet that might believe his wife and him, love Huntington. They are gone at rhe first opportunity, even if its Vanderbilt, or Kansas or any garbage program in the p5 cellar that will write him a bigger check.

It would be foolish to think Huff or any coach leaving for a higher paying P5 job is any proof or indication that they hate it in Huntington.

I've heard numerous fans state "they hate it here" or especially "his wife hates it here" but never heard anyone that says they heard it from either Huff.  I think its likely he does leave given a good opportunity and I also believe the "hate it" rumors are more likely than not stupid rumors from our fan base.  I've heard same rumor about a few others at MU over time.

To believe that rumor, you have to believe the Huffs are dumb enough to show up for job, realize they are public figures, and then tell people they hate it here.  I think it's more likely our gossiping self loathing fans.


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[Big City]

I'll admit it. BG and the next few losses, I was on Huff. Couldn't wait for him to leave. I took a step back and looked at the situation.

Offensive line coach suddenly departed.
Offensive line really start to struggle
Experienced, starting qb is injured
Didn't we lose a key WR? Keaton, oh yeah...
Young, inexperienced QB is named the starter
The young QB was far from perfect but he showed improvement every week still playing behind a weaker O Line.
 
Some how, some way Huff got the team back on track and put a nice run together when as we've seen under previous coaches the team flat out quit.  He's done a nice job given the situation. I'll forever cherish being at ND with my family and the team scratching and clawing to get to yesterdays game and win.

[mubowhunter]

We were a offensive coordinator and a quarterback away from a very special season.  I will forever cherish the ND win and consider it the greatest in program history.

[elginherd]

We were a offensive coordinator and a quarterback away from a very special season.  I will forever cherish the ND win and consider it the greatest in program history.

I agree about the QB. His best game this year wasn't exactly going to remind us of any of the Herd's greats. If Fancher takes 2 or 3 major steps forward regarding the oassing game, he might get the job done. He also needs work on reading the give/keep decisions when running the option.

Trickett, I'm not convinced that he should go.

[2xBison]

I agree about the QB. His best game this year wasn't exactly going to remind us of any of the Herd's greats. If Fancher takes 2 or 3 major steps forward regarding the oassing game, he might get the job done. He also needs work on reading the give/keep decisions when running the option.

Trickett, I'm not convinced that he should go.

Yes.  I mean it's kind of hard to say no QB and no OC.  We made it to 9-4 so that's tough to do.  Also tough to score enough to win when no one respects passing game at all and that's primarily on QB.


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[mubowhunter]

I agree about the QB. His best game this year wasn't exactly going to remind us of any of the Herd's greats. If Fancher takes 2 or 3 major steps forward regarding the oassing game, he might get the job done. He also needs work on reading the give/keep decisions when running the option.

Trickett, I'm not convinced that he should go.

I just don?t understand why he can?t hit a guy wide open?  Well had the same issue except he could complete them to the other team pretty good.

[HoPPy785]

Where in the world does this narrative come from that Huff and especially his wife hate Huntington. Is someone here friends with his wife? Is there some public statement? Some of you are really grasping at straws to pound this idea and I don't get it at all. I'm convinced the majority of people that like to say Huff said Huntington is hard, didn't even listen to the interview.

As for him leaving, do you guys want a coach that strives for his career to reach the heights of the G5 and stop? Don't we want a coach that one day wants to be so good that he's coaching for titles at Bama or the NFL? Would you hire a guy at your company that said I only desire this entry level position and never want to move up? No, that would show zero initiative. Some of you have something personal against Huff and need to look in the mirror and ask why do I hate this guy so much.

[coalherd]

Where in the world does this narrative that Huff and especially his wife hate Huntington. Is someone here friends with his wife? Is there some public statement? Some of you are really grasping at straws to pound this idea and I don't get it at all. I'm convinced the majority of people that like to say Huff said Huntington is hard, didn't even listen to the interview.

As for him leaving, do you guys want a coach that strives for his career to reach the heights of the G5 and stop? Don't we want a coach that one day wants to be so good that he's coaching for titles at Bama or the NFL? Would you hire a guy at your company that said I only desire this entry level position and never want to move up? No, that would show zero initiative. Some of you have something personal against Huff and need to look in the mirror and ask why do I hate this guy so much.

Today in an interview available nationally with Paul Finebaum, when questioned about his future possibilities in College Coaching, Huff said he would look to see if at such a place he would have the facilities, resources, etc., necessary to win a national championship.  Said his goal is to be the first Black Head Coach to win the D1 National Championship.  Certainly, didn't seem to indicate, IMO, that he would jump at the first Power program offer that came along.  Sounds as if he has criteria for evaluating programs to see if they would reasonably provide what he thinks he would need in order to achieve his stated goals!  As for the/his immediate goal of winning championships, etc., as MU's head coach he positively indicated that MU, meaning AD Spears, President Smith, and their administrations are providing what he needs to achieve that stated goal!

[elginherd]

Today in an interview available nationally with Paul Finebaum, when questioned about his future possibilities in College Coaching, Huff said he would look to see if at such a place he would have the facilities, resources, etc., necessary to win a national championship.  Said his goal is to be the first Black Head Coach to win the D1 National Championship.  Certainly, didn't seem to indicate, IMO, that he would jump at the first Power program offer that came along.  Sounds as if he has criteria for evaluating programs to see if they would reasonably provide what he thinks he would need in order to achieve his stated goals!  As for the/his immediate goal of winning championships, etc., as MU's head coach he positively indicated that MU, meaning AD Spears, President Smith, and their administrations are providing what he needs to achieve that stated goal!

Good catch, Coal!

Though I like Paul F as a guest on the various ESPN talk-head shows, I don't watch or listen to his program at all.
I'll have to look for this interview.

[HoPPy785]

Today in an interview available nationally with Paul Finebaum, when questioned about his future possibilities in College Coaching, Huff said he would look to see if at such a place he would have the facilities, resources, etc., necessary to win a national championship.  Said his goal is to be the first Black Head Coach to win the D1 National Championship.  Certainly, didn't seem to indicate, IMO, that he would jump at the first Power program offer that came along.  Sounds as if he has criteria for evaluating programs to see if they would reasonably provide what he thinks he would need in order to achieve his stated goals!  As for the/his immediate goal of winning championships, etc., as MU's head coach he positively indicated that MU, meaning AD Spears, President Smith, and their administrations are providing what he needs to achieve that stated goal!

Great info! I'm happy to have a coach that strives for such greatness and has a clear vision to achieve it. I hope one day he achieves his goal and it would certainly be special if it happened in the green and white.

[goherd73]

For a woman who hates Huntington, Jessica Kern Huff sure has a strange way of showing it.

She's the head coach for St Joe's girls basketball.

Her Foundation is working with Cabell county schools,  improving local community one property at a time. They sponsored free back to school haircuts for local students who couldn't afford one.

She's a motivational speaker and is quite an impressive person.

Don't believe for a minute she hates Huntington.

[biggreenarms]

Never said he was great.  Said he had tools and potential.  And he does but he's still inexperienced and raw.  Speaking of tools, you've turned into a pretty predictable one on the board.  I think everyone is tired of your constant bit*****.  I live 2000 miles from Huntington and went to more games than you this year.  You're like a football Karen.  You should call The Shewey building tomorrow and ask for the manager.

Football Karen  ;D
Funny stuff!

[MicDrass1]

Same Ole Marshall.  Still don't see a difference between Doc and Huff.  Same mid results.  Same slow offense. Same let downs against weaker opponents.  Same build up every year.  Fans show up in support than BAM we lose to a crappy MAC or CUSA team and there goes the fanbase.  Literally the exact same scenario since Doc was hired.   I'm rooting for Huff, even if he and his wife hate Huntington and are looking for the first plane out, but what was the point in making a change if nothing changes?

We have a HC now who can beat good P5s and on the road.  Haven?t had one since Pruett.  That?s the Huff advantage. 

[andy31]

[marshallmark]

Geez, people...  enjoy the moment.  There's no question MU was MUCH better this year, even with the obvious shortcomings that we can all see. 

-We beat (not a fluke) Notre Dame at Notre Dame.  How many teams can say that?
-We won 9 games.  Should have won a couple of others, but didn't lose to any bad teams.  The closest "bad" team was BUGS, and they played out of their collective gourd that night, plus if Laborn doesn't fumble we still win that game.
-MU was largely one-dimensional the last 1/2 of the season, using the passing game as an extension of the running attack - very little downfield passing.  Even with that handicap, MU overcame it and had success in running the ball with a controlled passing attack and managing the clock.  You can't tell me that Trickett didn't know he could only use 2/3 of his playbook and kudos to him for adjusting effectively.
-The defense hid a lot of deficiencies, but so did the 1986 Bears.  You win with what you have, and MU did that effectively most of the year. 

Going forward...
-MU needs a passing QB or for Fancher to take a massive step forward in that category.  I'm skeptical. 
-MU also needs a WR or 2 that can create space and run past slower DBs.  Will Keaton be back to help that?  What about the transfer from UK that was a track star in high school?  They really, really need to stretch the defense.
-LOTS to replace on the defense, esp. if some with eligibility (i.e. Porter) choose not to return.  Losing Bush will hurt some, but more for depth than productivitiy.
-Who's going to back up Ali, assuming that he returns?  Payne is serviceable, but I'm interested in what the freshman can do.


The mark of a great team is to win the games you should, and pick off a game or two you shouldn't.  MU didn't take care of business the middle of the season so I'd rate this year a solid "B", with a bunch of disappointment because it could have easily been an "A". 

[parshall2marshall]

I liked how Huff opined that Marshall was a national symbol for overcoming adversity and pointed back to our decades of success. Was on a WSAZ Sports page video post-bowl. That's the way I like to view all Herd Sports teams and hate it when the coaches or players ( or administrators !! ) obviously quit giving their all.

Seems Huff is still learning and growing in many areas as a HC. I'm concerned that Zamora is leaving and believe he will soon put up big numbers where he lands. I'm not sold on Fancher but have faith Harrison or Pennington will emerge and compete. E-man relaying the news that Pennington running the scout team appears to be "The real deal was a surprise and very encouraging. Possibly had something to do with Zamora leaving but I'm no insider. Just my 2 cents.

[Rockin Herd Fan]

IMO, Huff did a very good job this year winning 9 games without a passing game to speak of.  Every team we played down the stretch knew exactly what we were going to do on offense and we still were able scratch together enough points to win the majority of those games.  Is there room for improvement?  Hell yeah there is!!!  Coach is going to have to scour multiple levels to find a suitable QB via the portal.  He cannot go into next season with Fancher as the incumbent and only Harrison and Pennington as his competition.  I wouldn't mind seeing him go down to the FCS level and plucking an established QB using NIL money.  Remember crap flows down hill.  The P5 schools will farm the G5 schools for established players and thus the G5 schools will need to farm the FCS schools for established players.  Because of the portal fewer kids will get scholarships right our of high school at the FBS level and they will end up falling to schools at the FCS level.  So there will be some really good players with FBS talent at that level for schools like Marshall to take.  I'm not a fan of this at all, but this is the world of college sports we live in, so we might as well dive in and take advantage of it. 

[HoPPy785]

I liked how Huff opined that Marshall was a national symbol for overcoming adversity and pointed back to our decades of success. Was on a WSAZ Sports page video post-bowl. That's the way I like to view all Herd Sports teams and hate it when the coaches or players ( or administrators !! ) obviously quit giving their all.

Seems Huff is still learning and growing in many areas as a HC. I'm concerned that Zamora is leaving and believe he will soon put up big numbers where he lands. I'm not sold on Fancher but have faith Harrison or Pennington will emerge and compete. E-man relaying the news that Pennington running the scout team appears to be "The real deal was a surprise and very encouraging. Possibly had something to do with Zamora leaving but I'm no insider. Just my 2 cents.

I thought Harrison looked best on film of the 3 freshman that came in. Thought for sure he'd be the one to emerge, but who knows.

[andy31]

I liked how Huff opined that Marshall was a national symbol for overcoming adversity and pointed back to our decades of success. Was on a WSAZ Sports page video post-bowl. That's the way I like to view all Herd Sports teams and hate it when the coaches or players ( or administrators !! ) obviously quit giving their all.

Seems Huff is still learning and growing in many areas as a HC. I'm concerned that Zamora is leaving and believe he will soon put up big numbers where he lands. I'm not sold on Fancher but have faith Harrison or Pennington will emerge and compete. E-man relaying the news that Pennington running the scout team appears to be "The real deal was a surprise and very encouraging. Possibly had something to do with Zamora leaving but I'm no insider. Just my 2 cents.

According to his Twitter, Zamora has one offer thus far in the portal and it's from Catawba.  I'm not particularly worried about that loss.