Topic: Men's basketball commitment

[pembrook burrows III]

https://sycamorepride.com/threads/21-al-sg-cameron-crawford-4-10-2021.42340/

Some more background on Crawford from the ISU message board. He was well thought of, at least until he hit the portal. The message board administrator had him pegged as a likely starter for the Sycamores next year. Sounds like he showed flashes on both offense and defense as a freshman. We certainly need him to be productive immediately. I wish him good fortune with the Herd. 💯

[GK4Herd]

Redshirt year practice highlights...


https://twitter.com/camcrawford0/status/1639627120782589952?s=20

[Flat Tire 2]

Interesting post from the ISU message board on the player.

"Hmmmmmm been telling you all for months that this roster spot would open. But you all had him in the starting lineup.
When you know. You know."

That is the way it is in college basketball these days, coaches get new players to replace the ones that don't contribute.

 

[wasbarryb]

Interesting post from the ISU message board on the player.

"Hmmmmmm been telling you all for months that this roster spot would open. But you all had him in the starting lineup.
When you know. You know."

That is the way it is in college basketball these days, coaches get new players to replace the ones that don't contribute.

Well some do anyway.

[Rockin Herd Fan]

This kid does not need to come in and be a star, but he needs to average about 8 to 10 points a game, be able get to consistently get to the rim off of the dribble and play good defense.  I still would like DD to use that last scholarship on a guard who can play the point, stop dribble penetration and get to the rim off of the dribble, instead of using it on a big man. 

[herdorbust2]

Personally I think he looks pretty good. He has solid handles and a very good cross over. Also looks like he shoots it well from deep. I'm not concerned about avg 3 points as a freshman. Maybe they had 2-3 kids they went to on offense and he was asked to do other things. He sat out and matured another year and that will help. Now if we could land a really good quick PG we could be decent if Danny would start coaching during games instead of standing 40 minutes with arms crossed.

[MidlandKnight]

I'm hearing conflicting information. One says we will have another commitment here shortly, but another told me to expect more P-5 transfers to be in this weekend.

[herdorbust2]

We needed another guard and got one. I?m fine with this guy. The one we should be questioning is Nutter.

This guy has 2-3 years left to play and can?t transfer again without sitting out (until he graduates).

We shouldn?t recruit anymore project freshmen. We should be going after these types of players.

Let?s wait and see what he does in our system.

I agree. Unless we have a connection with a freshman or a hometown kid that is really good, stay away from freshman. Transfers with 3 years left is what we should recruit 80% of the time because then they are locked in unless they want to sit a year. Then fill holes with GTs. The freshman recruiting days should virtually be over for the Marshalls.

[MUonium]

according to Marshall's Official website HerdZone.com .... it shows that we have played Indiana State INDIANA STATE
MAR leads, 5-2
46-47 (D-) A MAR 66-58
47-48 (D-) H ISU 62-37
(J-) A MAR 66-58
48-49 (D18) N MAR 66-65
(J8) H MAR 71-63
(F14) A ISU 72-43
53-54 (F27) A MAR 96-81

..... amazing what you can find if you use the tools that you have for research !

FO, understand AH?

[ThunderCat98]

Yay?

[Herdiowa]

Personally I think he looks pretty good. He has solid handles and a very good cross over. Also looks like he shoots it well from deep. I'm not concerned about avg 3 points as a freshman. Maybe they had 2-3 kids they went to on offense and he was asked to do other things. He sat out and matured another year and that will help. Now if we could land a really good quick PG we could be decent if Danny would start coaching during games instead of standing 40 minutes with arms crossed.

Ill be honest he looks pretty solid.  Runs Court well,  good looking stroke, and sees the floor.

[HerdinNT]

So, we signed a player that looks like most for DD.  That being not 1 G5 team even sniffed at.  We lose a top 25 transfer player to one not even ranked.  Wow. 

[Buffalo Bop]

I'm hearing conflicting information. One says we will have another commitment here shortly, but another told me to expect more P-5 transfers to be in this weekend.

Are you hearing Zach Loveday from Baylor and a 6-7 forward from Texas Texh coming in this weekend?

[herdorbust2]

Are you hearing Zach Loveday from Baylor and a 6-7 forward from Texas Texh coming in this weekend?

You are close.

[Flat Tire 2]

I think Cam might develop in a good role player in a year or two who might contribute, time will tell. The problem is that he is not going to be as productive as TK and we really need an impact player who can make a difference on day one. I realize dd is not a recruiter, but we need some solid ballplayers who can play at the beginning of the upcoming season. The days of waiting three years to build a basketball program are over. 

[coalherd]

according to Marshall's Official website HerdZone.com .... it shows that we have played Indiana State INDIANA STATE
MAR leads, 5-2
46-47 (D-) A MAR 66-58
47-48 (D-) H ISU 62-37
(J-) A MAR 66-58
48-49 (D18) N MAR 66-65
(J8) H MAR 71-63
(F14) A ISU 72-43
53-54 (F27) A MAR 96-81

..... amazing what you can find if you use the tools that you have for research !

Would have been nice to have had a home and home with them during Larry Bird's days at ISU!!

[jdonaccbus]

I think Crawford may actually be a really good find for this staff. You have to look at Indiana State's roster to see why his early production was not that great.

In 21-22, Indiana State's two leading scorers were 6'4" Cooper Neese and 6'6" Cameron Henry. Both were upperclassmen.

This past season those two guys returned and Indiana State brought in 6'5" graduate transfer Courvoisier McCauley from Depaul. He was the leading scorer this past season. Those three guys might be why Crawford redshirted.....which appears to be a smart move. It appeared they had a lot of scorers in the 6"4" to 6'6" range for a team that went 23-13.

Time will tell. But I am pretty optimistic with this transfer as he does fill a need. I am not completely sold on Conner and Fricks at the three spot.

My biggest gripe is not moving some end-of-the-bench guys out. We still have serious needs on both ends of the floor. We desperately needed some athletic guards that could defend. If we don't change the roster that much, then Danny is going to have to play a lot more zone than what he prefers to. I just don't think we have enough guys that can defend.

[Garbanjo]

I think Cam might develop in a good role player in a year or two who might contribute, time will tell. The problem is that he is not going to be as productive as TK and we really need an impact player who can make a difference on day one. I realize dd is not a recruiter, but we need some solid ballplayers who can play at the beginning of the upcoming season. The days of waiting three years to build a basketball program are over.

Especially if you're gonna take the gas pipe at the end of the
3-4 year development cycle

[herdorbust2]

I think Crawford may actually be a really good find for this staff. You have to look at Indiana State's roster to see why his early production was not that great.

In 21-22, Indiana State's two leading scorers were 6'4" Cooper Neese and 6'6" Cameron Henry. Both were upperclassmen.

This past season those two guys returned and Indiana State brought in 6'5" graduate transfer Courvoisier McCauley from Depaul. He was the leading scorer this past season. Those three guys might be why Crawford redshirted.....which appears to be a smart move. It appeared they had a lot of scorers in the 6"4" to 6'6" range for a team that went 23-13.

Time will tell. But I am pretty optimistic with this transfer as he does fill a need. I am not completely sold on Conner and Fricks at the three spot.

My biggest gripe is not moving some end-of-the-bench guys out. We still have serious needs on both ends of the floor. We desperately needed some athletic guards that could defend. If we don't change the roster that much, then Danny is going to have to play a lot more zone than what he prefers to. I just don't think we have enough guys that can defend.

Agree. If he would have moved a couple more out, then he could have signed another big they are after and two quick ball handling guards and really transformed the team. He is his own worst enemy and it's going to cost him.

[coalherd]

Marshall got a commitment from Indiana State transfer guard Cam Crawford - 6'5.   Redshirted last season.   Two years ago as a true freshman averaged 3 points and 2 rebounds a game.

Will be called upon to help supply some of the production lost by the departure of the school's all-time career scoring leader.  Obvious that Coach D. didn't want to get the fan based all juiced and jacked up and perhaps cause a mad rush and stampede on the HERD ticket office at the CAM!  Very thoughtful, that Danny!!

[Flat Tire 2]

I think Crawford may actually be a really good find for this staff. You have to look at Indiana State's roster to see why his early production was not that great.

In 21-22, Indiana State's two leading scorers were 6'4" Cooper Neese and 6'6" Cameron Henry. Both were upperclassmen.

This past season those two guys returned and Indiana State brought in 6'5" graduate transfer Courvoisier McCauley from Depaul. He was the leading scorer this past season. Those three guys might be why Crawford redshirted.....which appears to be a smart move. It appeared they had a lot of scorers in the 6"4" to 6'6" range for a team that went 23-13.

Time will tell. But I am pretty optimistic with this transfer as he does fill a need. I am not completely sold on Conner and Fricks at the three spot.

My biggest gripe is not moving some end-of-the-bench guys out. We still have serious needs on both ends of the floor. We desperately needed some athletic guards that could defend. If we don't change the roster that much, then Danny is going to have to play a lot more zone than what he prefers to. I just don't think we have enough guys that can defend.

In 21-22 (Cam's freshman year) ISU was ISU was 11-20 overall and 4-14 in next to last place in the MVC conference. According to you they brought in McCarley which means they didn't didn't think Cam would be an upgrade. They red shirted Cam and brought in two more portal players this year. I wouldn't be surprised if the ISU  coach told Cam to enter the portal, it happens. Nothing wrong with Cam not fitting into ISU's plans.

[2xBison]

I read another Marshall poster on herdnation state that they visited the Indiana State board and a poster there was giving other posters there an "I told you so".  Something to the effect "I told you guys he was going portal and you all had him pencilled in as starter next year".  So he may not just be a discarded player.

I don't know that this guy is enough and don't know if he can rebound or play D, but I'd expect him to contribute for us in the top 7 if not potentially start.  His offensive game looks ok


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[Garbanjo]

Are you hearing Zach Loveday from Baylor and a 6-7 forward from Texas Texh coming in this weekend?

Zach Loveday could work out. Talented guy but just didn't work out at Baylor

https://baylorbears.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/zach-loveday/11790

[herdorbust2]

Zach Loveday could work out. Talented guy but just didn't work out at Baylor

https://baylorbears.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/zach-loveday/11790

I would rather have the other big they are looking at.

[girthyherdon]

Zach Loveday could work out. Talented guy but just didn't work out at Baylor

https://baylorbears.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/zach-loveday/11790

I watched Loveday quite a few times in high school when he played in Gallipolis.