Topic: So Who Leads MBB In Scoring 23-24

[mubowhunter]

I?m going to say Volpe-Curfman-Obinna

[HoPPy785]

Voyles, Curfman and Conner in no particular order.

Maybe Martin sneaks in there if he thrives in our system.

[HerdFan2026]

Voyles, Curfman and Conner in no particular order.

Maybe Martin sneaks in there if he thrives in our system.

20+ PPG
N/A

15+ PPG
Voyles
Curfman


10+ PPG
Martin
OAK
Conner (could end up in the 15+ ppg category too tbh)

5+ PPG
Fricks
Crawford
Mckey

>5 PPG
Goran
Marko
Braun
Nutter
Toussaint
Thieneman

I?ll take it a step further
Assist leader: Conner
Rebound leader: OAK
Steals leader: Voyles
Blocks Leader: OAK

The Rotation will be
Voyles-Curfman-Conner-Martin-OAK
Crawford, Mckey, and Fricks off the bench virtually every game
Goran will play a large role than last year, but it will still be situationally, he?ll be in and out of the lineup

We had our best defensive team under Dan last year, and I think we?ll improve upon that, and will have a Top 200 defense in terms of PPG next year.

[mubowhunter]

20+ PPG
N/A

15+ PPG
Voyles
Curfman


10+ PPG
Martin
OAK
Conner (could end up in the 15+ ppg category too tbh)

5+ PPG
Fricks
Crawford
Mckey

>5 PPG
Goran
Marko
Braun
Nutter
Toussaint
Thieneman

I?ll take it a step further
Assist leader: Conner
Rebound leader: OAK
Steals leader: Voyles
Blocks Leader: OAK

The Rotation will be
Voyles-Curfman-Conner-Martin-OAK
Crawford, Mckey, and Fricks off the bench virtually every game
Goran will play a large role than last year, but it will still be situationally, he?ll be in and out of the lineup

We had our best defensive team under Dan last year, and I think we?ll improve upon that, and will have a Top 200 defense in terms of PPG next year.

Great analysis

[mubowhunter]

Voyles, Curfman and Conner in no particular order.

Maybe Martin sneaks in there if he thrives in our system.

I forgot about Martin

[herdorbust2]

20+ PPG
N/A

15+ PPG
Voyles
Curfman


10+ PPG
Martin
OAK
Conner (could end up in the 15+ ppg category too tbh)

5+ PPG
Fricks
Crawford
Mckey

>5 PPG
Goran
Marko
Braun
Nutter
Toussaint
Thieneman

I?ll take it a step further
Assist leader: Conner
Rebound leader: OAK
Steals leader: Voyles
Blocks Leader: OAK

The Rotation will be
Voyles-Curfman-Conner-Martin-OAK
Crawford, Mckey, and Fricks off the bench virtually every game
Goran will play a large role than last year, but it will still be situationally, he?ll be in and out of the lineup

We had our best defensive team under Dan last year, and I think we?ll improve upon that, and will have a Top 200 defense in terms of PPG next year.

I agree with your analysis and rotation. But I don't see a better D at all. And the offense will struggle at times a lot. There is going to be some long dry spells scoring. Kinsey and Andrew had been here for years and was very comfortable doing what they wanted. Imo the key to this team will be Conner. If he takes a massive jump and plays with aggression and leadership this team can be decent because he is the type of guy that can make everyone better and also score. But he has to become that player for this team to have a chance imo.

[coalherd]

Impossible to say how all this translates to our W-L record in 23-24 at this point.  Two big variables are still not completed:  the whole regular season schedule AND just how the FINAL ROSTERS look at ALL the schools in the SBC when the fall semester rolls around at said schools.

[pembrook burrows III]

https://twitter.com/theportalreport/status/1667236221519536128?s=46&t=Jw0NIeUI60K6VzMJm6_hlg

[coalherd]

https://twitter.com/theportalreport/status/1667236221519536128?s=46&t=Jw0NIeUI60K6VzMJm6_hlg

I thought that there was supposedly a "limit" on the number of times a player could transfer and thus, the number of schools a player could play for.  Looks like Brown is on the search for School #4!!  Just another how the Portal "Concept", together with the NIL nonsense, is changing, for the worse, IMO, college athletics!!

[HerdFan2026]

I agree with your analysis and rotation. But I don't see a better D at all. And the offense will struggle at times a lot. There is going to be some long dry spells scoring. Kinsey and Andrew had been here for years and was very comfortable doing what they wanted. Imo the key to this team will be Conner. If he takes a massive jump and plays with aggression and leadership this team can be decent because he is the type of guy that can make everyone better and also score. But he has to become that player for this team to have a chance imo.

When it comes to defense, we switch AT out for Volpe (who had 2.0 SPG last year), we do lose Handlogten in terms of rim protection. But this year,  we move OAK, who is already a great shot blocker, to the 5, and we insert Martin, who ranked 8th in the SBC in block percentage (the % of the opposing teams shots blocked by said player while they are on the floor - Micah ranked 3rd and OAK was 5th) at the 4 spot, and I think we?ll be solid, but not improved there. I do think our perimeter D will improve, I expect Conner to improve in this area and I think Crawford will specialize here as well. I also think Voyles will contribute here as well. I think last year?s defensive improvement was more a result of Adam Williams replacing Rigot than anything else, if you watched last year, he?s the most vocal coach with players, it seems he?s always point something out. With the addition of Justin Caldwell on the bench next year, I expect some improvement again.


I agree that Conner will be the key to the season. He, but also OAK and Voyles will decide whether this team ends up with 12 wins or 20. I think the Sun Belt is going to be weaker next year, and even with a maybe less talented team than we had last year, we can still challenge for a Top 4 spot if the right players improve. The upper echelon of SBC teams was mostly complacent this off-season, Ark St and GSU had the best off seasons. JMU brought in a guy who averaged less than 2 PPG at Colorado and a guy who averaged 5/5/1 last year at BC. Louisiana has pretty much just sat on their hands, and USM brought in a guy who averaged less than 2 PPG at Oregon St, and another guy who averaged 3 points a game at UNLV. We might not have had a great off-season, but most SBC teams didn?t this year.

[MUfan08]

I thought that there was supposedly a "limit" on the number of times a player could transfer and thus, the number of schools a player could play for.  Looks like Brown is on the search for School #4!!  Just another how the Portal "Concept", together with the NIL nonsense, is changing, for the worse, IMO, college athletics!!

So he went from Nevada to Arizona between his freshman to sophomore season. Under old NCAA rules (before portal) he had to sit out that season as an under graduate.
The portal was instituted, he then went to Arizona to Louisiana and did not have to sit out under the new portal rules (transfer once without sitting out).
He is now in the portal again as a grad transfer (which he does not have to sit out because he's already graduated).

This is a very unique situation with him.

[herdorbust2]

When it comes to defense, we switch AT out for Volpe (who had 2.0 SPG last year), we do lose Handlogten in terms of rim protection. But this year,  we move OAK, who is already a great shot blocker, to the 5, and we insert Martin, who ranked 8th in the SBC in block percentage (the % of the opposing teams shots blocked by said player while they are on the floor - Micah ranked 3rd and OAK was 5th) at the 4 spot, and I think we?ll be solid, but not improved there. I do think our perimeter D will improve, I expect Conner to improve in this area and I think Crawford will specialize here as well. I also think Voyles will contribute here as well. I think last year?s defensive improvement was more a result of Adam Williams replacing Rigot than anything else, if you watched last year, he?s the most vocal coach with players, it seems he?s always point something out. With the addition of Justin Caldwell on the bench next year, I expect some improvement again.


I agree that Conner will be the key to the season. He, but also OAK and Voyles will decide whether this team ends up with 12 wins or 20. I think the Sun Belt is going to be weaker next year, and even with a maybe less talented team than we had last year, we can still challenge for a Top 4 spot if the right players improve. The upper echelon of SBC teams was mostly complacent this off-season, Ark St and GSU had the best off seasons. JMU brought in a guy who averaged less than 2 PPG at Colorado and a guy who averaged 5/5/1 last year at BC. Louisiana has pretty much just sat on their hands, and USM brought in a guy who averaged less than 2 PPG at Oregon St, and another guy who averaged 3 points a game at UNLV. We might not have had a great off-season, but most SBC teams didn?t this year.

I hope you are right but I hate to expect to win because the conference it's got weaker. Remember it was weaker last year than what CUSA was, especially the top 4-5 teams in each league. Now the SB is expected to be even weaker and if we don't win it this year then we are just falling with our competition. We have no back up guard that can produce, Zero!!! And Conner is NOT a guard but a swing player. We needed another good solid guard to rotate with Voyles and Curfman. I watched a lot of film on Martin the other day and he didn't look good on defense and was getting thrown around quite a bit. But I do think he can help on offense around the basket. But he must not shoot well at all from 3 since he has no stats from there.

We only have 3 three point shooters in the top 7-8 of the rotation. I just don't understand Dannys recruiting when he says his system is predicated on everyone shooting the 3. Is he going to let Martin, Mckey and Toussaint fire away like he does Obinna stating you have to let them shoot? Or will he change the system? And I don't think Adam had anything to do with being a little better on D. I think it mainly had to do with length of Handlogton, Fricks and Conners length. But the second half of the season wasn't nearly as good as the first half imo. But it will be interesting to see how it plays out. If we do well then I'll be presently surprised because I have very little hope of a decent year. A couple more solid portal players could have changed a lot and again Danny failed to open a spot.

[jdonaccbus]

So he went from Nevada to Arizona between his freshman to sophomore season. Under old NCAA rules (before portal) he had to sit out that season as an under graduate.
The portal was instituted, he then went to Arizona to Louisiana and did not have to sit out under the new portal rules (transfer once without sitting out).
He is now in the portal again as a grad transfer (which he does not have to sit out because he's already graduated).

This is a very unique situation with him.

I am sure he is looking for more coin. He is probably a tweener at best to play NBA. He is going after as much coin as he can right now. I am sure there is a school lined up to offer him.

[Herdiowa]

I will be interested to see how McKey looks.  Haven?t seen him play in a year and a half

[MicDrass1]

I say we struggle ... .500 club.  Lost a lot of points

[Flat Tire 2]

I say we struggle ... .500 club.  Lost a lot of points

Well, he signed his new players and apparently decided on the members of his team. He is responsible for the makeup of the team so there will be no excuse. I guess we will see how good of a coach he is this season.

[pembrook burrows III]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/37836458/three-arkansas-state-players-arrested-theft-charge

[thunderingon]

I'm looking foward to watching this team come together. Adding Crawford, Martin, Voyles to the returners will be interesting.  If we can get a step up from Conner, Fricks and McKey, I have no worries at all.

[Buffalo Bop]

Is Pete Moe still in the picture or not?

[svherd]

Maybe the league will be weaker this season and that will offset our losses.

[scope58]

I agree with your analysis and rotation. But I don't see a better D at all. And the offense will struggle at times a lot. There is going to be some long dry spells scoring. Kinsey and Andrew had been here for years and was very comfortable doing what they wanted. Imo the key to this team will be Conner. If he takes a massive jump and plays with aggression and leadership this team can be decent because he is the type of guy that can make everyone better and also score. But he has to become that player for this team to have a chance imo.

Agree with that. I think the D will struggle . Its not really stressed.

[scope58]

I'm looking foward to watching this team come together. Adding Crawford, Martin, Voyles to the returners will be interesting.  If we can get a step up from Conner, Fricks and McKey, I have no worries at all.

lol, unreal

[miltonherdfan]

lol, unreal

Agreed. Our roster is in worse shape than it was 2 yrs ago when we won 12 games. We lost our 3 best players & replaced em with guys from the portal that were, at best, "contributors" (not studs or stars) on teams from crappy conferences that nobody with a better program than our's wanted. Exception of Martin, who made a lateral move here from TSU. DD waited until everyone else got what they wanted outta the portal, then we jumped in & nabbed some leftovers.

[herdorbust2]

I'm looking foward to watching this team come together. Adding Crawford, Martin, Voyles to the returners will be interesting.  If we can get a step up from Conner, Fricks and McKey, I have no worries at all.

No way Crawford, Voyles and Martin replace Kinsey, Taylor and Handlogton. You are getting 23 points and giving up 50.  Plus Kinsey and a Taylor had been in the system for years and was comfortable  doing their thing. Those 3 would have to play really well and Conner, Fricks and Obinna would have to take huge steps in their game for us to be decent. The odds just aren't there imo but it's going to be interesting to see which direction this team takes. And the SB looking weaker may help some.

[herdfan129]

I like voyles better than Taylor from what film I?ve seen.

Martin is just as good if not better than Handlogten.

We are still needing one more portal player who can immediately contribute though.