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« on: August 31, 2023, 02:20:26 AM »
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  • The kid has poise, great instincts and good arm talent.  He gets the ball out fast.  Last year he threw 24TDs and 4ints, as a freshman.  He hit 10 different targets last Saturday.  I believe Cam is going to be a much improved QB this season but I think they might have the better QB, honestly.


     
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    « Reply #1 on: August 31, 2023, 03:42:59 AM »
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  • The kid has poise, great instincts and good arm talent.  He gets the ball out fast.  Last year he threw 24TDs and 4ints, as a freshman.  He hit 10 different targets last Saturday.  I believe Cam is going to be a much improved QB this season but I think they might have the better QB, honestly.

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    « Reply #2 on: August 31, 2023, 05:24:29 AM »
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  • The kid has poise, great instincts and good arm talent.  He gets the ball out fast.  Last year he threw 24TDs and 4ints, as a freshman.  He hit 10 different targets last Saturday.  I believe Cam is going to be a much improved QB this season but I think they might have the better QB, honestly.

    I watched film of him and he looks good. But as a team we will overpower them for the victory. But he looks like the real deal and has a very quick release.
     
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    « Reply #3 on: August 31, 2023, 08:06:11 AM »
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  • I think we'll get to him often. Our speed will negate what they do.


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    « Reply #4 on: August 31, 2023, 08:17:24 AM »
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  • They may get a couple of early scores before we adjust to him.  He does look good with a quick release.
     
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    « Reply #5 on: August 31, 2023, 08:43:27 AM »
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  • The QB looks decent, but you have to factor in the competition. They beat Fordham last week who is a member of the Patriot League whose guidelines for athletic scholarships are based on financial and athletic ability. They are FCS, but like Morehead they don't support the full FCS scholarship level.
    Football grants are awarded under Patriot League regulations and are based on both financial need and athletic ability. These athletic grants require an annual filing of a FAFSA and are renewed based on family need as calculated each year using the required financial aid forms. Only 34% of Fordam athletes receive scholarships.
    https://www.fordham.edu/undergraduate-financial-aid/types-of-financial-aid/fordham-scholarships-and-grants/athletic-awards

    Albany was 3-8 last year and finished in 10th place in the Colonial Athletic Conference. Albany lost their opener to Baylor last year 69-10. Albany did score in the first quarter after it was 21-0. It was 35-7 at the half and Albany did score on a FG in the third quarter when Baylor was 42-7.

     A couple of observations on my part. Their should be a big difference in the speed and size of MU versus Fordham which players are not on full athletic scholarships. The Albany QB will be facing a very good defense versus last week.  If we come to play, our defense should dominate and our offense will probably use a run offense to control the ball.  I would expect that Albany might score a few points, there are always first game problems and it is Albany's second game. Our problem will be to keep the team focus and playing hard.
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    « Reply #6 on: August 31, 2023, 09:24:37 AM »
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  • I watched film of him and he looks good. But as a team we will overpower them for the victory. But he looks like the real deal and has a very quick release.
    I think you right.  He is good but I expect our D to keep him pressured.


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    « Reply #7 on: August 31, 2023, 11:51:32 AM »
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  • Get your hands up D-Line.  We want some tipped balls in the air.
     
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    « Reply #8 on: August 31, 2023, 02:32:06 PM »
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  • The QB looks decent, but you have to factor in the competition. They beat Fordham last week who is a member of the Patriot League whose guidelines for athletic scholarships are based on financial and athletic ability. They are FCS, but like Morehead they don't support the full FCS scholarship level.
    Football grants are awarded under Patriot League regulations and are based on both financial need and athletic ability. These athletic grants require an annual filing of a FAFSA and are renewed based on family need as calculated each year using the required financial aid forms. Only 34% of Fordam athletes receive scholarships.
    https://www.fordham.edu/undergraduate-financial-aid/types-of-financial-aid/fordham-scholarships-and-grants/athletic-awards

    Albany was 3-8 last year and finished in 10th place in the Colonial Athletic Conference. Albany lost their opener to Baylor last year 69-10. Albany did score in the first quarter after it was 21-0. It was 35-7 at the half and Albany did score on a FG in the third quarter when Baylor was 42-7.

     A couple of observations on my part. Their should be a big difference in the speed and size of MU versus Fordham which players are not on full athletic scholarships. The Albany QB will be facing a very good defense versus last week.  If we come to play, our defense should dominate and our offense will probably use a run offense to control the ball.  I would expect that Albany might score a few points, there are always first game problems and it is Albany's second game. Our problem will be to keep the team focus and playing hard.

    I did take into consideration the level they played and what more impressive is that he was that efficient on a team that won 3 games. 

    I looked into his recruiting and he signed with ODU out of high school.  He was the Maryland offensive player of the year as a senior QB.  He transferred after one season.

    So I think this kid left before all this but apparently Fordham had one of the top offenses in the nation from a productive standpoint last year, it's a full on spread basketball on grass and ODU hired their OC and he took their top QB from Fordham to run it at ODU.
     

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    « Reply #9 on: August 31, 2023, 02:50:31 PM »
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  • They have NO chance
    Stop with the crazy talk
     

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    « Reply #10 on: August 31, 2023, 02:55:12 PM »
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  • They have NO chance
    Stop with the crazy talk


    Who said they did? Just saying they have a good QB and they do. He would do very well at a bigger program.
     
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    « Reply #11 on: August 31, 2023, 03:10:22 PM »
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  • I did take into consideration the level they played and what more impressive is that he was that efficient on a team that won 3 games. 

    I looked into his recruiting and he signed with ODU out of high school.  He was the Maryland offensive player of the year as a senior QB.  He transferred after one season.

    So I think this kid left before all this but apparently Fordham had one of the top offenses in the nation from a productive standpoint last year, it's a full on spread basketball on grass and ODU hired their OC and he took their top QB from Fordham to run it at ODU.

     Apparently Albany only offers need base scholarships. "University At Albany does offer athletic scholarships for Football. Need-based and academic scholarships are available for student-athletes. Athletic scholarships are available for NCAA Division I, NCAA Division II, NAIA and NJCAA. On average, 34% of all student-athletes receive athletic scholarships."
    https://sportsrecruits.com/athletic-scholarships/mens-football/new-york/university_at_albany

    The Albany QB might be good, but he is playing with a lot of non scholarship teammates and that will make it difficult for him to play against a scholarship Division 1 team. I still think Ted Shoebridge was one of the best QB in MU history, but he played without a very bad offensive line and it hindered his statistics. MU only had about 40 players on the team before the plane crash. I remember Rick Tolley telling my father to wait until next year when Ted had an offensive line.  Watch Ted in the below video in his last game, he was running for life most of the game but making some great throws.


     I remember when Brown played at MU, Brown was quick and had a very good QB and they were a team with need base scholarships. Marshall won 46-0. Albany got beat by Baylor last year 69-10. If Marshall defense is as good as last year's team, the game will be over quickly.

    By the way Fordham opened the 2022 season losing to Navy 52-16 and lost to Army 64-6 the following weekend. Fordham is another limited scholarship program.

    Again, all I am saying is that we are playing against a team that doesn't offer the full allotment of FCS scholarsips and their overall talent talent level is very suspect. Anything is possible in a game, but if The Herd is focused it should win. I also expect MU to run the ball down the throat of Albany and control the clock. The game is usually won in the trenches and I think MU has much better lines and depth than a partial scholarship program. JMHO.
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    « Reply #12 on: August 31, 2023, 03:46:58 PM »
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  • Man football was a simpler time back then, 5-2 base defensive and dive plays, ruled the turf.  No, I don't think they beat us, I think they get tired and we start busting their defense, running the ball.  Late in the 3rd and 4th qtr we pull away by 3-4tds.
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  • Albany has one of the fastest people in the country.  But Travis Williams doesn?t play fbsll anymore.  Small sized weighing team
     
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    « Reply #14 on: August 31, 2023, 07:38:12 PM »
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  • He is a tough kid from an athletic family. Middletown produces competitive players.

    He may make a few plays but our defense will wear them out.
     
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  • My takeaway is the size of their OL.  Their QB looks good against Fordham.  I don't think their line will be able to stop penetration from our DTs and Edges, not to mention the speed we have at LB.  I suspect the D will be pretty plain jane on Saturday, but that should be enough against that OL.
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  • My takeaway is the size of their OL.  Their QB looks good against Fordham.  I don't think their line will be able to stop penetration from our DTs and Edges, not to mention the speed we have at LB.  I suspect the D will be pretty plain jane on Saturday, but that should be enough against that OL.

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    « Reply #17 on: September 03, 2023, 06:50:58 PM »
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  • The kid has poise, great instincts and good arm talent.  He gets the ball out fast.  Last year he threw 24TDs and 4ints, as a freshman.  He hit 10 different targets last Saturday.  I believe Cam is going to be a much improved QB this season but I think they might have the better QB, honestly.


    The Albany QB was 22-38 for 194 yards for an average pass completion of 5.1 yards. His longest completion was for 19 yards on a busted coverage. He rushed for 15 times for 37 yards with the longest run for 54 yards. Take away the the 54 yard TD and he rushed for negative yards. By the way, great play on his rushing TD. Two good plays don't make a great QB.  Not a great day for the young man. He certainly doesn't air out the ball, but he was playing against a so so G5 team. I would think he will do better against FCS teams. JMO.

    The jury is out on Cam.

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  • The Albany QB was 22-38 for 194 yards for an average pass completion of 5.1 yards. His longest completion was for 19 yards on a busted coverage. He rushed for 15 times for 37 yards with the longest run for 54 yards. Take away the the 54 yard TD and he rushed for negative yards. By the way, great play on his rushing TD. Two good plays don't make a great QB.  Not a great day for the young man. He certainly doesn't air out the ball, but he was playing against a so so G5 team. I would think he will do better against FCS teams. JMO.

    The jury is out on Cam.

    The rushing stats for NCAA QBs are very misleading. Sacks count against a QB's rushing totals, which they shouldn't.
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    « Reply #19 on: September 03, 2023, 07:17:36 PM »
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  • The rushing stats for NCAA QBs are very misleading. Sacks count against a QB's rushing totals, which they shouldn't.

    I think everyone grasps the fact that sacks are charged to the player that is handling the ball, no matter if it is a running back or the quarterback. If the QB is mobile or has a quick release he might avoid a lot of sacks.
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    « Reply #20 on: September 03, 2023, 07:37:06 PM »
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  • The Albany QB was 22-38 for 194 yards for an average pass completion of 5.1 yards. His longest completion was for 19 yards on a busted coverage. He rushed for 15 times for 37 yards with the longest run for 54 yards. Take away the the 54 yard TD and he rushed for negative yards. By the way, great play on his rushing TD. Two good plays don't make a great QB.  Not a great day for the young man. He certainly doesn't air out the ball, but he was playing against a so so G5 team. I would think he will do better against FCS teams. JMO.

    The jury is out on Cam.

    He was severely out gunned against our defense and he almost won the game.  He'll probably pass for 3 times the TDs as Cam by the end of the year.  He literally had to be sacked on the last play of the game for us to win.   If you want pretty stats Cam is your guy.  If you want effective leadership, poise & moxy in a hostile environment, and do anything to win take UAlbany's guy. 

    A qb with 42% and 3 Tds is a better QB

    Than one that is 100% 30 for 30 with 1 TD.

    If you just look at numbers and not games, Henry Columbi is probably the greatest Quarterback in Marshall history.  He'd take 3 sacks for -50 yards and have an 84% completion percentage
     

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  • Poffenberger would be good for us.  We have 4 star and 3 star RFR qbs on our roster.  One of these guys is good.  If not it?s on MU coaches. 
     
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  • I think everyone grasps the fact that sacks are charged to the player that is handling the ball, no matter if it is a running back or the quarterback. If the QB is mobile or has a quick release he might avoid a lot of sacks.

    But it IS misleading.

    The dude made a couple of explosive plays with his legs. Just reading the 'stats', one would think that he had a so-so game on the ground, when exactly the opposite is true. The NFL/CFL treatment of sacks is musch better.
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    « Reply #23 on: September 03, 2023, 08:00:41 PM »
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  • Poffenberger would be good for us.  We have 4 star and 3 star RFR qbs on our roster.  One of these guys is good.  If not it?s on MU coaches.

    A-Freaking-men!
    I'd trade Cam for Poff in a heartbeat.

    Here's another reason why I like him over Cam: Notice that he actually completed passes in the middle of the field?
    AND he threw some balls away to avoid losses? (Though he did hero-ball t a couple of times ,too)

    Sorry that's 2 reasons.
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    « Reply #24 on: September 09, 2023, 10:30:06 PM »
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  • The QB looks decent, but you have to factor in the competition. They beat Fordham last week who is a member of the Patriot League whose guidelines for athletic scholarships are based on financial and athletic ability. They are FCS, but like Morehead they don't support the full FCS scholarship level.
    Football grants are awarded under Patriot League regulations and are based on both financial need and athletic ability. These athletic grants require an annual filing of a FAFSA and are renewed based on family need as calculated each year using the required financial aid forms. Only 34% of Fordam athletes receive scholarships.
    https://www.fordham.edu/undergraduate-financial-aid/types-of-financial-aid/fordham-scholarships-and-grants/athletic-awards

    Albany was 3-8 last year and finished in 10th place in the Colonial Athletic Conference. Albany lost their opener to Baylor last year 69-10. Albany did score in the first quarter after it was 21-0. It was 35-7 at the half and Albany did score on a FG in the third quarter when Baylor was 42-7.

     A couple of observations on my part. Their should be a big difference in the speed and size of MU versus Fordham which players are not on full athletic scholarships. The Albany QB will be facing a very good defense versus last week.  If we come to play, our defense should dominate and our offense will probably use a run offense to control the ball.  I would expect that Albany might score a few points, there are always first game problems and it is Albany's second game. Our problem will be to keep the team focus and playing hard.

    Well, I guess I might be wrong about Fordham. They went on the road and beat G5 Buffalo 40-37. Maybe Albany is better than I thought.
     
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