Topic: U Albany's Head Coach Playing Up the fact that we aren't releasing 2 Deep

[Johnnyherd]

According to their play by play guy on Paul Swann and it has come out in articles that UA's coach called Huff "Silly" for not giving a 2 deep.  Then he went on to say, "Our 2 deep is public knowledge!".

Thoughts on not releasing the depth chart?  I'm agreeing with Huff, as bad as might bring drama.

Saban says coaching is no longer about an offensive scheme vs a defensive scheme.  It's about individual player matchups at certain moments of the game.  It's putting your dynamic players in matchups that they win. 

Alabama even has defensive schemes where the defense is in a zone but 2 players are in man, because they match up with certain playmakers.  It's interesting for sure.

[CoachMaclid]

I think it's silly not putting out a two deep.  We, including the players, are all going to know who the "starters" are by 6:07 Saturday evening.

[Johnnyherd]

He's probably doing it because P5 schools often have analysts (coaches) that will be scouting us this game for week 2 and maybe week 3 and Huff wants to keep them guessing on personnel and player matchups.

[herdloyal]

Smart move by smart Coaches to not give out information that can be used to our opponents against us in ways we might not see now.

[MUther]

He's probably doing it because P5 schools often have analysts (coaches) that will be scouting us this game for week 2 and maybe week 3 and Huff wants to keep them guessing on personnel and player matchups.

Exactly.  We don't care if UAlbany has our playbook and their coach knows it.  This is for teams that matter, farther down the road.  I don't know if it actually makes a difference for us in the long run, but any perceived advantage... 

[MUonium]

how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? (for those born before 1 9 _ _)

none or

364-
A group of engineering students from Purdue University reported that its licking machine, modeled after a human tongue, took an average of 364 licks to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop.

[HerdEcon]

how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? (for those born before 1 9 _ _)

none or

364-
A group of engineering students from Purdue University reported that its licking machine, modeled after a human tongue, took an average of 364 licks to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop.

Good to know. 


If that's all the UAlbany HC can come up with then he is in for a long day.  Huff will get to see some of that depth he's been working on in the off season in action.

[Johnnyherd]

Good to know. 


If that's all the UAlbany HC can come up with then he is in for a long day.  Huff will get to see some of that depth he's been working on in the off season in action.

Did you see our roster?  We have 30 players wearing numbers 1-15, 2 guys wearing #1, 2 guys wearing #2, et cetera so many shared numbers.  I don't know how we can dress so many players.  This some Les Miles type program building.  I like it.

[MUonium]

Did you see our roster?  We have 30 players wearing numbers 1-15, 2 guys wearing #1, 2 guys wearing #2, et cetera so many shared numbers.  I don't know how we can dress so many players.  This some Les Miles type program building.  I like it.

it's the new, new sequential arithmetic.  or the equipment guy can't count very well.  or everybody wants to be #2

[Flat Tire 2]

Did you see our roster?  We have 30 players wearing numbers 1-15, 2 guys wearing #1, 2 guys wearing #2, et cetera so many shared numbers.  I don't know how we can dress so many players.  This some Les Miles type program building.  I like it.

FYI: The duplicate numbers happen every year at MU at the beginning of the season. You can have 85 players on scholarship and then there are walk-ons. A college team can have up to 125 players on the team. During the season the number always drops due to players leaving (walk-on) for various reasons.

https://gamedayculture.com/how-many-college-football-players-are-there/

[herdman22]

I don't see any reason to release a depth chart. 


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[parshall2marshall]

Something tells me the Albany HC will have more than his fill of our 2's and 3's as the 4th QTR winds down.

[Johnnyherd]

FYI: The duplicate numbers happen every year at MU at the beginning of the season. You can have 85 players on scholarship and then there are walk-ons. A college team can have up to 125 players on the team. During the season the number always drops due to players leaving (walk-on) for various reasons.

https://gamedayculture.com/how-many-college-football-players-are-there/

It's common knowledge that college teams have "some" players wearing the same number, maybe a handful of players,  Im guessing we have 30 players wearing the same number jersey, and that was my point.  i have never seen or heard of a team having 60 players involved a duplicate jersey situation,

Edit: we have 84 players that are involved in a duplicate number scenerio, 42 pairs of players wearing the same number.

[herdtown]

I don't see any reason to release a depth chart. 
Depth chart is only as useful as the information included in it.....same for ht and weight  info. It is more about personnel groupings, matchups and injury management.  As a fan sure I wouldn't mind to see a depth chart.  As far as Albany coach goes ask him about it after he gets his ass kicked.

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[Flat Tire 2]

It's common knowledge that college teams have "some" players wearing the same number, maybe a handful of players,  Im guessing we have 30 players wearing the same number jersey, and that was my point.  i have never seen or heard of a team having 60 players involved a duplicate jersey situation,

Edit: we have 84 players that are involved in a duplicate number scenerio, 42 pairs of players wearing the same number.

I guess you are looking the Herdzone about the numbers issue? There are about 125 players listed on the roster. I seriously doubt there will be more than 85 players dressed for the game. I am sure if you buy a program the number situation will work itself out.

The sky is not falling.

[Johnnyherd]

I guess you are looking the Herdzone about the numbers issue?
The sky is not falling.

I didn't say the skying falling or anything close to that, or that we are breaking NCAA guidelines, those are things yOU brought up on your own, bud.

I was remarking that I have never seen this much depth in a Marshall roster.

I was using Marshall's pre game press release for the roster.

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/sidearm.nextgen.sites/herdzone.com/documents/2023/8/30/2023_Marshall_Game_Notes_-_Game_1_-_Albany.pdf?timestamp=20230830070231

[Flat Tire 2]

I didn't say the skying falling or anything close to that, or that we are breaking NCAA guidelines, those are things yOU brought up on your own, bud.

I was remarking that I have never seen this much depth in a Marshall roster.

I was using Marshall's pre game press release for the roster.

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/sidearm.nextgen.sites/herdzone.com/documents/2023/8/30/2023_Marshall_Game_Notes_-_Game_1_-_Albany.pdf?timestamp=20230830070231

Goodness, take a look at last year's roster and there are players with multiple numbers. There are 113 players listed on the link for last year and the roster was probably at the end of the season after some players had already left the team.  Again, this happens almost every since Donnan was the coach. 
https://herdzone.com/sports/football/roster/2

[Johnnyherd]

It looks like there are 34 more players on this years roster than last years roster, that's what impressed me. 

34 players is a significant amount of additional talent and depth in my opinion. 

Things were different during Donnan and Pruett, there were greyshirts, prop 48's and other considerations.

[Lord Haw-Haw]

Huff's a secrecy nut!