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Re: Fancher is Trash
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2023, 11:46:15 PM »
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    You do realize that none of the others on the roster were good enough to unseat Fancher.

    So the situation was that Fancher was the only leftover QB on scholarship and everyone else was brought in green as grass.  Fancher had been in practice and was comfortable and had a year in the weight room. 

    So Fancher has had a career of perfect timing and little competition.

    I also feel that Huff declaring Fancher as " the Guy" before the spring game was premature, because he said last season that a perfect scenario would be every QB would push one another and the whole room would grow together.

    Then that story changed to Fancher and only Fancher and Fancher doesn't have to play in the spring game, because Fancher will be the offensive coordinator for the spring game.
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    Re: Fancher is Trash
    « Reply #26 on: September 03, 2023, 12:57:08 AM »
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  • If you don't like the truth spin it how you must.   Hes a herd player but trash garbage refuse whatever.  His stats continue to show that he's one of the worst QBs in the nation since last year. Not trying to step on any toes but I contribute to this university as other alumni do and some of us aren't going to tolerate this stuff from week to week. You like mediocrity then keep praising the junk.   Yes some of it is on the coaching staff and a little on the O line and blockers but wake up if you think this is all there is behind him on the bench. Our coaches have sat good QB talent before.
     

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    Re: Fancher is Trash
    « Reply #27 on: September 03, 2023, 02:38:23 AM »
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  • I'd insult the guy earning $1 million a year that almost lost to a lower tier FCS team before I'd ever personally insult a player. The buck stops with that man.
     
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    Re: Fancher is Trash
    « Reply #28 on: September 03, 2023, 06:15:28 AM »
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  • Correction:  the whole team was 1-10 on 3rd.  I'm not exactly sure what Fancher was but he couldn't have completed more than 1 3rd down then again he might have completed 0.


    Well he sure didn't have many incompletions on third down since he completed 80% of his passes.
     

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    Re: Fancher is Trash
    « Reply #29 on: September 03, 2023, 06:33:47 AM »
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  • Well he sure didn't have many incompletions on third down since he completed 80% of his passes.

    In the first half, every drive stalled and we had no fumbles.  He kept failing on 3rd down.  So Trickett started running the ball on 3rd and 8. 

    Not only did he not pass for any 3rd down competitions.  He didn't run for any either and that was what was supposed to separate him.

    80% accuracy with 0 points?  That's some Colombi BS, next he'll refuse to throw the ball away and take sack after sack so he doesn't drop completion percentage.

    That's seriously concerning that he was 80% and 0% on 3rd down with 7 points output.  He's taking the easy route checking into easy passes that are short of a first down.

    It's like he's saying we can go ahead and lose this game but don't look at me I was statistically outstanding.

    I'd rather have a qb that was 50% overall and 30-40% on 3rd down and threw 4tds with 2ints.

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    Re: Fancher is Trash
    « Reply #30 on: September 03, 2023, 07:37:42 AM »
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  • I believe we planned to win on talent and strength; but that wasn't there because their coach took unreal changes with 9 guys in the box.; we did not want to show our offense. But we had to show more of it than we wanted to win.  Good for SUNY Albany.
    I thought about that too. If that's the case we took it to the point of losing the game. Not showing your "whole" offense is one thing, taking a loss to an FCS team is another. 
     
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    Re: Fancher is Trash
    « Reply #31 on: September 03, 2023, 11:34:20 AM »
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  • Why do we attack players on here calling them trash?  It's not his fault, I would imagine he is doing his best.  If you want be mad or upset with someone then be mad at Trickett and Huff.  They can't develop or recruit a qb worth a da%$.


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    Re: Fancher is Trash
    « Reply #32 on: September 03, 2023, 11:40:29 AM »
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  • Why do we attack players on here calling them trash?  It's not his fault, I would imagine he is doing his best.  If you want be mad or upset with someone then be mad at Trickett and Huff.  They can't develop or recruit a qb worth a da%$.


    No excuse for a topic heading like this. I would hope Wolf would delete it or move it to the smack board. I would think this would be a huge violation of board rules.
     
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    Re: Fancher is Trash
    « Reply #33 on: September 03, 2023, 12:03:16 PM »
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  • If you don't like the truth spin it how you must.   Hes a herd player but trash garbage refuse whatever.  His stats continue to show that he's one of the worst QBs in the nation since last year. Not trying to step on any toes but I contribute to this university as other alumni do and some of us aren't going to tolerate this stuff from week to week. You like mediocrity then keep praising the junk.   Yes some of it is on the coaching staff and a little on the O line and blockers but wake up if you think this is all there is behind him on the bench. Our coaches have sat good QB talent before.
    I'm not spinning anything about Fancher pro or con.  Just being direct about you.


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    Re: Fancher is Trash
    « Reply #34 on: September 03, 2023, 12:06:16 PM »
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  • He might go undefeated.  He needs some offensive OC imagination.  The Buffs did it in 6 months.  Got the old Kent State HC as Oc. 
     
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    « Reply #35 on: September 03, 2023, 12:09:48 PM »
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    You do realize that none of the others on the roster were good enough to unseat Fancher.
    Let that sink in.  Apparently we have none better.  If that is indeed the case we are in trouble as a program.  Definitely think Trickett is in over his head. 

    However this is Huffs team and he is tying his career to Fancher.
     
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    « Reply #36 on: September 03, 2023, 12:19:53 PM »
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  • Let that sink in.  Apparently we have none better.  If that is indeed the case we are in trouble as a program.  Definitely think Trickett is in over his head. 

    However this is Huffs team and he is tying his career to Fancher.

    We are assuming that Fancher is the best we have.  No one knows for sure except the players and coaches.  Would not be the first time a coach has played a player because they like them.  I have a hard time believing that the Rice transfer is not better based on the 2 games I watched him in.  Assuming he is healthy, he can make passes over the middle and throws a decent deep ball.  He also has the ability to run if need be.


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    Re: Fancher is Trash
    « Reply #37 on: September 03, 2023, 12:47:06 PM »
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  • Calling a young college kid trash that is playing football and working toward an education at the same time does not sound smart at all.  I don't care how much money you donate, it doesn't give you the right to talk trash about the kid and act smug.  I question the decision about him being the starter, and I am not sure if he is the best choice of what is available, but he deserves greater respect than what has been displayed in title of this thread.
     
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    « Reply #38 on: September 03, 2023, 12:51:55 PM »
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  • It's the worst QB room in 40 years if not EVER and I can't believe Huff didn't fix it in the off season.
     

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    « Reply #39 on: September 03, 2023, 01:31:01 PM »
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  • We are assuming that Fancher is the best we have.  No one knows for sure except the players and coaches.  Would not be the first time a coach has played a player because they like them.  I have a hard time believing that the Rice transfer is not better based on the 2 games I watched him in.  Assuming he is healthy, he can make passes over the middle and throws a decent deep ball.  He also has the ability to run if need be.
    I am in total agreement with you, I understand Fancher made demands before coming here, play QB or I am out of here,  and they appear to being met. I have little faith that Huff will make a change until it is too late.
     

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    « Reply #40 on: September 03, 2023, 01:37:21 PM »
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  • Calling a young college kid trash that is playing football and working toward an education at the same time does not sound smart at all.  I don't care how much money you donate, it doesn't give you the right to talk trash about the kid and act smug.  I question the decision about him being the starter, and I am not sure if he is the best choice of what is available, but he deserves greater respect than what has been displayed in title of this thread.

    I largely agree.
    However, 19-20 year olds are not 'kids'. I hate that the media, coaches & public says that & then treats them as such. Cam is a young man.

    That said, he isn't trash. It's just that he doesn't seem to be able to pass the ball well or read D's enough at this level.

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    « Reply #41 on: September 03, 2023, 01:51:04 PM »
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  • So the situation was that Fancher was the only leftover QB on scholarship and everyone else was brought in green as grass.  Fancher had been in practice and was comfortable and had a year in the weight room. 

    So Fancher has had a career of perfect timing and little competition.

    I also feel that Huff declaring Fancher as " the Guy" before the spring game was premature, because he said last season that a perfect scenario would be every QB would push one another and the whole room would grow together.

    Then that story changed to Fancher and only Fancher and Fancher doesn't have to play in the spring game, because Fancher will be the offensive coordinator for the spring game.

    You haven't liked Fancher since Wells was here and nothing he could do would sway that opinion.   And these other idiots want to start no experience guy for the 10th cycle in a row.
     
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    « Reply #42 on: September 03, 2023, 01:53:08 PM »
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  • Does anyone else wonder if Huff is afraid to play Cole Pennington because of political issues on the team if he does?  I have this dread that Cole would be very good, and a starter, at somewhere else.  I think Huff is afraid it will look like he is showing favoritism if he plays Cole.  And if he isn't good enough to play here, he should have never been offered a scholarship.  I'm truly confident Chad could care less if MU offered his son a scholarship.
     

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    « Reply #43 on: September 03, 2023, 01:59:07 PM »
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  • Does anyone else wonder if Huff is afraid to play Cole Pennington because of political issues on the team if he does?  I have this dread that Cole would be very good, and a starter, at somewhere else.  I think Huff is afraid it will look like he is showing favoritism if he plays Cole.  And if he isn't good enough to play here, he should have never been offered a scholarship.  I'm truly confident Chad could care less if MU offered his son a scholarship.

    Huff's career rides on winning. If he fails at Marshall he may never get another road to P5 head coaching. There's no chance he isn't starting what he believes is our best option at every position.

    Also why would anyone give him flack for starting a successful Cole? That makes no sense. I would understand your point if he started Cole over Fancher and Cole was bad. Nobody questions why you started a guy that's good.
     
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    « Reply #44 on: September 03, 2023, 02:19:37 PM »
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  • Huff's career rides on winning. If he fails at Marshall he may never get another road to P5 head coaching. There's no chance he isn't starting what he believes is our best option at every position.

    Also why would anyone give him flack for starting a successful Cole? That makes no sense. I would understand your point if he started Cole over Fancher and Cole was bad. Nobody questions why you started a guy that's good.

    Amen. The man wants to win and get another gig. He's playing the best players he can, regardless of the name on the jersey. Some of the posts about this topic are laughable.


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    « Reply #45 on: September 03, 2023, 02:45:04 PM »
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  • I am in total agreement with you, I understand Fancher made demands before coming here, play QB or I am out of here,  and they appear to being met. I have little faith that Huff will make a change until it is too late.



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    « Reply #46 on: September 03, 2023, 03:06:35 PM »
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    « Reply #47 on: September 03, 2023, 03:25:26 PM »
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  • Fancher has a lot to prove.  Those games are coming. 
     
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    « Reply #48 on: September 03, 2023, 03:34:19 PM »
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  • Says a lot about the guy who has him in the starting slot, doesn't it?
    Not really. Some guys are good in practice but not in games. That said, I was not in the Fancher camp last year. I personally want to see Pennington.
     
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    « Reply #49 on: September 03, 2023, 03:36:46 PM »
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  • Not really. Some guys are good in practice but not in games. That said, I was not in the Fancher camp last year. I personally want to see Pennington.

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