Topic: What we know after Albany

[goherd24]

1. We are good enough and coached to the level that we can maybe compete with middle to lower third of any FCS conference.

2. Fancher still wouldn't be good enough to be our QB at that level and win a title.

3. Coaches mean a lot at this level. You need a good coach or you're not going to be very successful. Our defense has shown this tonight. Huge step back from last year. This is very bad news as our offense is just as bad.

4. Crowd was good. Solid crowd. Team and gameplay took the crowd out though. Quietest I've seen the joan in a game in the first half maybe ever with that large of a crowd. Got into it in second half.

5. Fan experience - fireworks, good addition. Like it. We are marshall chants are a disaster. The guy on the mic needs to say this side - we are.... Point to the east and say marshall, then point back and let the crowd take over. When just the mic guy says we are and we say Marshall it's terrible. The one we got going in 2nd half was awesome.

The video board is nice, but not as impressive as i originally was thinking it would be. Intro video wasn't very good. Hasn't really been any good since the 2010 season I think it was, with the speech from the movie integrated.

6. Huff - most disappointing thing to me was his post game when he wasn't even upset or disappointed. He tried to act like albany was a team that is good enough to compete for a sunbelt title lol. And talked about how they had played a game and we hadn't, etc. Not a single word about how we didn't perform as we should have. He did say lucky it happened this week which is true. Those silly LOS passes aren't going to work againat ECU or any other team on our schedule. Always said I'd trade the talker for the walker, to lead any position. I still believe huff is just a talker. If he leaves here ever winning a title, I'll be shocked.

7. Ali - looked good. Bright spot on an otherwise, awful night. But this kid can't do it alone.

8. Our punter has a hell of a leg, and our field goal kicker well, we don't know because we let them block it.

9. Oline - rough. If you can't move a lower division team and get 1 or 2 yards when you need it with 22 running the ball, you got issues.

10. Receivers - didn't see much separation vs their dbs. Granted, they didn't run but 2 downfield routes, 1 was incomplete and 1 INT. Our game plan is very much built around Fancher throwing screwns and 5 yard routes, so hard to know what we have.

11. Dline - pretty good overall. Sacked him 7 or 8 times and %^&* them down on the ground for the most part. Our weakness appeared to be at LB and DB.

Overall, I see a 6-7 win season, coming. Our defense is not anywhere near last years, and our offense with Fancher and trickett is absolutely horrid. We aren't going to be able to score and we aren't going to stop others or hold them to 16ppg this season. This is a 27-28ppg  allowed defense, with a 14 ppg offense. Unless Fancher gets benched and we can throw it beyond 5 yards, we are in for a very long, unsuccessful season. We were lucky to win vs Albany tonight. Have to let that sink in.

I am praying for a different team next week at ECU. But i am fully prepared for a 35-3 type of shellacking.

[2xBison]

The sun will come out tomorrow.


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[herdfan93]

I'm hoping the  coaches didn't spend much time prepping for this game but spent most of the time looking ahead to ECU.  I  hope to see a much better team next week.  Finger's crossed.

[Johnnyherd]

8.Our punter has a hell of a leg, and our field goal kicker well

I thought I saw the stat he avg 31 per punt and they avg 47 per punt

[elginherd]

Other than #1, I pretty much agree with goherd's assessment. The Herd would be a threat to win any of the FCS conferences, though probably not to win the post season tourney, because of the lack of a passing attack that threatens the middle of the field. Fancher wouldn't start for a lot of FCS teams.

I keep going back to that one thing: You cannot win championships without being able to hit receivers downfield for chunk plays. That's just as important as rushing & defense with today's rules. 

[Lord Haw-Haw]

6. Huff - most disappointing thing to me was his post game when he wasn't even upset or disappointed. He tried to act like albany was a team that is good enough to compete for a sunbelt title lol. And talked about how they had played a game and we hadn't, etc. Not a single word about how we didn't perform as we should have. He did say lucky it happened this week which is true. Those silly LOS passes aren't going to work againat ECU or any other team on our schedule. Always said I'd trade the talker for the walker, to lead any position. I still believe huff is just a talker. If he leaves here ever winning a title, I'll be shocked.

Huff is too nice. He doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings. How many coaches at this level act this way? Probably very few. Do we really want such a leader? Huff will leave here, but it won't be of his own volition. Every day is a day sooner that this will happen.

[REL70]

Got to love MU fans. After one game, predicting a 6-7 win season.

After ND last year, MU fans predicted a conference championship.

After BG, same fans said we wouldn't win another game.

Long season guys.

[herdinphilly]

What I know is that the only thing worse than that crappy ESPN+ production was the performance on the field by the Marshall football team.

[goherd24]

8.Our punter has a hell of a leg, and our field goal kicker well

I thought I saw the stat he avg 31 per punt and they avg 47 per punt

Wasn't sure of average but he booted one about 60 yards in the air, had another that should have been downed at rhe one but we mucked it up

[herdorbust2]

Got to love MU fans. After one game, predicting a 6-7 win season.

After ND last year, MU fans predicted a conference championship.

After BG, same fans said we wouldn't win another game.

Long season guys.

The most irrational, standing on the ledge fans in the country.

[Mako]

Got to love MU fans. After one game, predicting a 6-7 win season.

After ND last year, MU fans predicted a conference championship.

After BG, same fans said we wouldn't win another game.

Long season guys.

Agreed.  Last year, some small school from an impoverished city in coal country knocked off Top 10 ranked Notre Dame leaving the Irish at 0-2 at that point.  The Irish still rebounded and finished the season a respectable 8-4.  While I certainly didn't get any warm fuzzies from last night's performance, it is only the first game and we have a BUNCH of new players on the team.  And, you make the most improvement as a team between Games 1 and 2.  We'll have a much better idea about this team after next week.

[MUonium]

i don't think Verhoff got his foot under the ball on the FG.  his KOs were relatively good.

McConnell is lacking as a punter.

sadly, this team is going to need it's special teams

[Flat Tire 2]

I didn't get to watch or follow the game yesterday. I have been looking at the stats for some insight, which can misleading. Getting the TD on the first play of the game called back for a penalty might have set the tone of the game, not sure? The defense played well overall. Some posters were making the Albany QB all world in their posts before the game and he did make a great play on his TD run. He faked out the WSAZ video cameramen. He did a great job of finding the wide open receiver on his TD pass; busted coverage by the DB.  He was 22-38 for 194 and average pass play of 5.1 yards. Fancher seem to improve his passing game from last year 22-38 for 268 yards for 7.1 yards per catch and one interception from last year. MU total offense was 413 yards and Albany had 300 yards.

Some problems were MU 3rd down efficiency for 1 for 10 10% and Albany was 4-16 for 25%. Possession was disturbing 24:51 for MU and 35:09 for Albany. Luckily Albany didn't have a great offense or our defense seems solid. The missed assignment for the Albany TD pass needs to corrected at once.  We need to control possession or we will get killed against a better QB or team. Penalties were about equal 5-41 and 5-54, but one cost the opening lead which was bad. We had 2 TO and Albany had 0 which is not good.  Again having the opening TD called back was horrible.   

Overall, I am disappointed and concerned. Maybe the team wasn't ready to play or we were playing not to show anything for the next game. That falls on the coaching staff. ECU lost to #2 Michigan 30-3 so let's see what happens next week. I am not expecting to go undefeated or win the SBC this year, I hope I am wrong. At least we won the game.

[Tradebait1]

Agree with a lot of this. Man i do nott like our offensive schemes. We played poorly in all phases of the game.  Had a ton of missed assignments on defense. O line was meh, i was hoping fir more.
Take the win but have a ton of work to do.

[2xBison]

Got to love MU fans. After one game, predicting a 6-7 win season.

After ND last year, MU fans predicted a conference championship.

After BG, same fans said we wouldn't win another game.

Long season guys.

No kidding.  Get out your tampons boys, many ups and downs and as he said a long season. 

I'll wait and judge over the next two games.  Certainly was disappointed last night.


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[bbcard1]

I don't think fans and other observers learned all that much from yesterday. We played really vanilla schemes on offense and defense. Just put it in the W column and go on to ECU. We should get a good gauge then.

[svherd]

There's always men's soccer. Top 5 program.

[MicDrass1]

We need to insert another dynamic running back.  Turner & Smoke.  Get them guys going.   They are good.  Get more dynamic on offense.  I like our wr Corp better this year.  A shame they can?t be let loose to run more route types.  On D - stephen dix could wreck havoc .... jabarack hopkins like to see play.  Also aj mcghee.  Jj roberts is a good player. 

[DC01HERD]

Fancher has to run to be successful. Need to see big improvement against ECU or it will be a blowout.

[Herdiowa]

Trust me I am not trying to make excuses for that performance but Albany seemed to have a lot of FBS transfers. 

Secondly how in the heck can we not recruit a QB?  Can we not have Chad and Byron makes some calls to recruits?

[wasbarryb]

Trust me I am not trying to make excuses for that performance but Albany seemed to have a lot of FBS transfers. 

Secondly how in the heck can we not recruit a QB?  Can we not have Chad and Byron makes some calls to recruits?

You're living in the past.

Chad and Byron were so long ago, recruits today would ask who's calling?

[banker]

Just a couple of notes - our punter averaged 50.3 yards per punt, not 31, with a long of 61.

Our kicker got the kicked blocked. His trajectory is too low. His extra points are only passing half way up the uprights and he?s going to end up getting those blocked too if he doesn?t adjust.

The new TE is going to be good and will be needed. With Cam?s lack of arm talent he should lean on this guy and he should be targeted 8-10 times a game.

Owen Porter had lost game comments about some players may have not taken the game seriously and not watched enough film. That makes me mad, but hopefully it?s a wake up call and means the defensive ability is there. Said it was like BUGS last year.

[goherd24]

Just a couple of notes - our punter averaged 50.3 yards per punt, not 31, with a long of 61.

Our kicker got the kicked blocked. His trajectory is too low. His extra points are only passing half way up the uprights and he?s going to end up getting those blocked too if he doesn?t adjust.

The new TE is going to be good and will be needed. With Cam?s lack of arm talent he should lean on this guy and he should be targeted 8-10 times a game.

Owen Porter had lost game comments about some players may have not taken the game seriously and not watched enough film. That makes me mad, but hopefully it?s a wake up call and means the defensive ability is there. Said it was like BUGS last year.

That mentality comes from up top. Huff was too busy during bugs week to game plan, doing his interview tour.

Still cracks me up that people want to look at a stat line and think Fancher has improved. He threw 2 balls over 8 yards down field and was 0-2 with an INT. Those screens and LOS and 5 yard routes aren't going to work against anyone else on our schedule, except maybe Arkansas State.

Sure, most improvement is game 1 to 2, but I'm not sure our coaches are going to fix anything. If we are going to lose against ECU, we need to them to pound us so hard that Fancher gets replaced at half time so we might have a chance at VTech.

[girthyherdon]

One thing I know after Albany is #54 McCracken is an absolute unit. That dude is built.

[MCA23]

Got to love MU fans. After one game, predicting a 6-7 win season.

After ND last year, MU fans predicted a conference championship.

After BG, same fans said we wouldn't win another game.

Long season guys.

Both conclusions are well within our rights.

Beating a top5 team should have equalled a great season.

Barely beating a bad FCS team is a huge cause for concern.

Huff continues to underperform as a HC.