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Fire Semore
« on: October 07, 2023, 04:44:31 PM »
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    Fire Semore
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #1 on: October 07, 2023, 05:28:17 PM »
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #2 on: October 07, 2023, 05:28:57 PM »
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    You're a 🤡 little Jimmy.
     
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #3 on: October 07, 2023, 07:34:37 PM »
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  • "Semore spent 2022 working with the Georgia Tech linebackers and was slated to become their special teams coordinator with responsibilities for nickel backs and safeties. Instead, he reprises a role he previously held at Valdosta State, Montana, and the Colorado School of Mines"

    I mean didn't exactly set the world on fire with experience prior to coming here.  We're obviously not using the right schemes or adjusting vs some of these teams, but I won't pretend to know what we should be doing or doing different.  Lot of game film out there now on how to beat what we thought was a very stout defense.
     
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #4 on: October 07, 2023, 07:39:43 PM »
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  • The players seem to be losing any residual discipline left over from last season. Definitely headed in the wrong direction on that side of the ball.
     
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #5 on: October 07, 2023, 07:53:02 PM »
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    In Semore defense, he doesn't have the horses up front as we had last year. Our D got worn down. We need at least 6 stout defensive lineman..
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #6 on: October 07, 2023, 09:25:46 PM »
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    wtf?
     
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #7 on: October 07, 2023, 09:39:42 PM »
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  • In Seymour defense, he doesn't have the horses up front as we had last year. Our D got worn down. We need at least 6 stout defensive lineman..

    E man, we are getting torched on the 2nd and 3rd levels.  LB's and secondary are MIA on many of those long, game breaking runs.  When guys are missing assignments that bad and are in that poor of position, that's about X's and O's, not Jimmie's and Joes.  Who did we lose on the DL from last year that makes our D so much worse this year?
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    Re: Fire Semore
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #9 on: October 08, 2023, 11:15:50 AM »
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  • We line up wrong and even Owen Porter is not having any impact.  Should have blitzed and pressure their new QB all day and didn't.  Had way too many untouched wide open receivers.  Defense seems confused all day.
     
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #10 on: October 08, 2023, 11:22:08 AM »
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  • Both offenses the last two weeks have exploited our miscues. The staff needs to get it corrected.
     
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    « Reply #11 on: October 08, 2023, 11:23:22 AM »
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  • Guidry was good about mixing up his looks and sending pressure from different angles virtually every play.
     
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #12 on: October 08, 2023, 01:08:07 PM »
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  • We line up wrong and even Owen Porter is not having any impact.  Should have blitzed and pressure their new QB all day and didn't.  Had way too many untouched wide open receivers.  Defense seems confused all day.


    Last year we asked our DT's to shoot the gaps, plus move the DT/DL in different alignments. Then the LB's more than often could scrape off and make the play. It was a great scheme as it caused the OL to never be comfortable, always having to choose who to block, have quick feet to protect the gap, and more than often causing missed assignments. This year it seems we are asking the DT's in particular to do more of a read and react, plus usually line up in the same base alignment. Pretty easy to block, and allows for long runs, especially when you only have five in the box, plus your safeties are bracketing the outside receivers. You want to see how bad it is, go back and watch the ODU game. It was just base blocking by ODU's line, it was so bad ODU's center didn't even scrape a DT, but went up the field four yards and took Eli Neal completely out of the picture. .

    It is just a lousy scheme, and doesn't take advantage of the talent we have. I wish Huff would have promoted within.
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #13 on: October 08, 2023, 01:18:20 PM »
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  • His DC experience isn?t much.  Big jump to this level with little experience and no dominance

    Chris Crocker had 126 tackles his senior year
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #14 on: October 08, 2023, 02:28:08 PM »
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  • If you look at the picture I've attached which is from ODU's last TD run, you will notice, exactly why we are giving up so many big runs up the middle.

    There is nobody in the middle of the field at the second level. We played this play with 4 down linemen and two linebackers with a nickelback. ODU has come out 4 wide (two on each side) spreading our safeties out with them, both safeties are aligned outside the hashes. One of our linebackers immediately comes straight downhill but is getting blocked, the other one tries to come in from the near side around Leggs and the ODU lineman blocking him. He has a good bead on the ball carrier but misses the tackle. Now the ODU back is in the second level of our defense and there is NO ONE there.

    Not only is there no one there but the safeties who are spread out wide are playing with their backs to the middle of the field (which has to be how they are coached to play it, because they do it every time). By the time they will even notice it's a run the ODU RB is 12 yards downfield at full speed, there is no chance they are going to be able to turn and make the play now.

    This is completely a scheme issue. If you tell an offensive coach, that he can get a hat on a hat along the line and one on a linebacker leaving only the other linebacker and his RB 1 on 1 the offensive coach will take that matchup ALL DAY LONG. Now when one of our D-linemen (which actually does happen often) gets penetration or off the block, we often get a stop. Or when the linebacker wins the 1 on 1 matchup with the RB we get a stop. But.. If you run this enough against this alignment, you are playing with fire and at least 3-5 times a game the offense is going to win here, even if your defense is more physically gifted then they are. It's just the law of averages, and when the offense does win because of the alignment it is gonna be a BIG gainer. So, if you've got the opportunity as an offense to hit a play like that 3 outta 10 times, you'll take it.

    I haven't gone back and really looked at the NC State game yet to see if it was this way on all their big runs too, but I know we were in this alignment in one of them, and just like here, the linebacker had an opportunity for a tackle and short gain, but the RB made him miss and then it was nothing but grass in front of him.

     
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #15 on: October 08, 2023, 03:16:21 PM »
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    « Reply #16 on: October 08, 2023, 03:29:53 PM »
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    Go Herd!

    I 100% agree.  D has been suspect all year.  Last 2 games teams have exploited us.  We have the Jimmies and Joe's, just not the x's and o's.  If he gives up another 30 plus this week, he needs fired on the tarmac.


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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #17 on: October 08, 2023, 03:35:37 PM »
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  • I 100% agree.  D has been suspect all year.  Last 2 games teams have exploited us.  We have the Jimmies and Joe's, just not the x's and o's.  If he gives up another 30 plus this week, he needs fired on the tarmac.

    100%

    We can win the Sun Belt but not with this arse clown DC
     
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #18 on: October 08, 2023, 04:39:38 PM »
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  • If you look at the picture I've attached which is from ODU's last TD run, you will notice, exactly why we are giving up so many big runs up the middle.

    There is nobody in the middle of the field at the second level. We played this play with 4 down linemen and two linebackers with a nickelback. ODU has come out 4 wide (two on each side) spreading our safeties out with them, both safeties are aligned outside the hashes. One of our linebackers immediately comes straight downhill but is getting blocked, the other one tries to come in from the near side around Leggs and the ODU lineman blocking him. He has a good bead on the ball carrier but misses the tackle. Now the ODU back is in the second level of our defense and there is NO ONE there.

    Not only is there no one there but the safeties who are spread out wide are playing with their backs to the middle of the field (which has to be how they are coached to play it, because they do it every time). By the time they will even notice it's a run the ODU RB is 12 yards downfield at full speed, there is no chance they are going to be able to turn and make the play now.

    This is completely a scheme issue. If you tell an offensive coach, that he can get a hat on a hat along the line and one on a linebacker leaving only the other linebacker and his RB 1 on 1 the offensive coach will take that matchup ALL DAY LONG. Now when one of our D-linemen (which actually does happen often) gets penetration or off the block, we often get a stop. Or when the linebacker wins the 1 on 1 matchup with the RB we get a stop. But.. If you run this enough against this alignment, you are playing with fire and at least 3-5 times a game the offense is going to win here, even if your defense is more physically gifted then they are. It's just the law of averages, and when the offense does win because of the alignment it is gonna be a BIG gainer. So, if you've got the opportunity as an offense to hit a play like that 3 outta 10 times, you'll take it.

    I haven't gone back and really looked at the NC State game yet to see if it was this way on all their big runs too, but I know we were in this alignment in one of them, and just like here, the linebacker had an opportunity for a tackle and short gain, but the RB made him miss and then it was nothing but grass in front of him.

    And if you watch Huff's presser he says ODU forces you to either stop the run or the pass.  I don't necessarily believe it's a one or the other.  And really.....we were so worried about a QB that was 11-25 for 93 yards with 3 picks that we chose to work on containing him instead of the Alabama transfer RB who went for 236 yards on 11 carries with 3 TD's?????   I think we chose wrong.
     
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #19 on: October 08, 2023, 04:50:14 PM »
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  • E man, we are getting torched on the 2nd and 3rd levels.  LB's and secondary are MIA on many of those long, game breaking runs.  When guys are missing assignments that bad and are in that poor of position, that's about X's and O's, not Jimmie's and Joes.  Who did we lose on the DL from last year that makes our D so much worse this year?

    Still waiting for Eman answer
    He is just making stuff up
     

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    « Reply #20 on: October 08, 2023, 04:57:32 PM »
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  • Micah Abraham takes away parts of the field alone.  No team challenges him. This DC job is easier.  Porter is always shaking his head.  He knows changes need made.  The players and HC always know when it?s not right first.  Then it?s up to the HC to act on it, Trust his/her instincts or potentially lose his/her team.  Not sure why Huff didn?t promote within.   
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #21 on: October 08, 2023, 05:01:06 PM »
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  • Huff?s biggest mistakes are looking like his hires after good staff departures.  Right now DC & OL
     

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    « Reply #22 on: October 08, 2023, 06:01:33 PM »
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  • Too much unnecessary help in the secondary?  Bring the safeties up and in to help if the RB gets to the second level and let the DBs do their thing on their islands.  I'm asking.  Seems like a better plan to force a QB to throw than to give away long runs.  Always a chance of a bad throw, a dropped pass, or a turnover in the passing game.  If a back gets the ball in space there's almost nothing that can go wrong, maybe a forced fumble.  We have two gods in pass coverage out there.  I'd rather take my chances with the QBs than the RBs for most of the Sunbelt teams.  The Sunbelt has 6-7 of the top RBs in the country.
     
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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #23 on: October 08, 2023, 06:20:06 PM »
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  • Too much unnecessary help in the secondary?  Bring the safeties up and in to help if the RB gets to the second level and let the DBs do their thing on their islands.  I'm asking.  Seems like a better plan to force a QB to throw than to give away long runs.  Always a chance of a bad throw, a dropped pass, or a turnover in the passing game.  If a back gets the ball in space there's almost nothing that can go wrong, maybe a forced fumble.  We have two gods in pass coverage out there.  I'd rather take my chances with the QBs than the RBs for most of the Sunbelt teams.  The Sunbelt has 6-7 of the top RBs in the country.

    At least one of them... I mean, Micah is going to be fine without help over the top in most matchups.
     

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    Re: Fire Semore
    « Reply #24 on: October 09, 2023, 12:37:54 PM »
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  • E man, we are getting torched on the 2nd and 3rd levels.  LB's and secondary are MIA on many of those long, game breaking runs.  When guys are missing assignments that bad and are in that poor of position, that's about X's and O's, not Jimmie's and Joes.  Who did we lose on the DL from last year that makes our D so much worse this year?

    There's a lot going on with our defense and it begins up front. If you go back and watch the game, our D Lineman were getting blown off the ball and trapped opening
    up big holes. We simply don't have depth and we're going to have to make some adjustments to compensate. I'm not the coach, but I could see some O Lineman switching over to give us help. As for the missed assignments, it's happening because our 2nd and 3rd level players are covering other players.
     

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