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Why did we play Cole over TJ?
« on: October 29, 2023, 02:25:19 PM »
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  • A Freshman over a senior?
     
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    Why did we play Cole over TJ?
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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #1 on: October 29, 2023, 02:31:35 PM »
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  • what would we gain by playing TJ?  best-case scenario we could possibly dream of is for TJ to come in & be SR version of chad pennington for the next 4 games, win-out rest of way . . . & go to a crappy bowl.  why sacrifice experience that'll actually be on the roster next season just to play a G5 also-ran in a mid-week mid-afternoon gas station bowl somewhere?
     
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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #2 on: October 29, 2023, 03:01:04 PM »
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  • A Freshman over a senior?
    Season's basically over. Nothing to gain by playing a 5th year over a freshman who needs experience.

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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #3 on: October 29, 2023, 03:04:49 PM »
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  • ?Will Huff still start Fancher,I sure hope nor.
     

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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #4 on: October 29, 2023, 03:12:45 PM »
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  • what would we gain by playing TJ?  best-case scenario we could possibly dream of is for TJ to come in & be SR version of chad pennington for the next 4 games, win-out rest of way . . .

    Try to win the game?  Cole can compete for the starting job next year.  If Huff wanted to win this year and move on, he should have played the senior that's passed for 3000+ yards. 

    He wanted to throw Cole in there as a middle finger to his critics,  it didn't help anything.  It certainly wasn't in Huff's best interest to play a green freshman over an experienced senior.
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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #5 on: October 29, 2023, 03:12:55 PM »
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  • It's rumored that TJ has a bum shoulder and not healing. Another Alex Thompson situation


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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #6 on: October 29, 2023, 03:19:26 PM »
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  • It's rumored that TJ has a bum shoulder and not healing. Another Alex Thompson situation

    Redshirt??
     

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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #7 on: October 29, 2023, 03:34:02 PM »
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  • It's rumored that TJ has a bum shoulder and not healing. Another Alex Thompson situation

    He looked fine, when Cam's helmet came off at ECU.  He came in took the snap, threw a 7 yard dart and got pulled.
     

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    « Reply #8 on: October 29, 2023, 03:35:56 PM »
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    « Reply #9 on: October 29, 2023, 04:06:14 PM »
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  • He looked fine, when Cam's helmet came off at ECU.  He came in took the snap, threw a 7 yard dart and got pulled.
    It's possible something happened after that game.
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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #10 on: October 29, 2023, 04:15:50 PM »
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  • No need to play him now. Season is done.

    There are still games on the schedule. The point is to win the games regardless of your record. The season is not done so long as their are games left to play. if we eek out two more wins, we'll go to some bowl, so you play the player most likely to help you win two more games. It won't be a great bowl, but I'll watch it and enjoy it.

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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #11 on: October 29, 2023, 05:03:39 PM »
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  • There are still games on the schedule. The point is to win the games regardless of your record. The season is not done so long as their are games left to play. if we eek out two more wins, we'll go to some bowl, so you play the player most likely to help you win two more games. It won't be a great bowl, but I'll watch it and enjoy it.

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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #12 on: October 29, 2023, 08:20:17 PM »
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  • I think Pennington should play the rest of the season.  He can score as many td's as CF can per game and I think at his point it's probably around .875/gm.
     
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    « Reply #13 on: October 29, 2023, 08:34:11 PM »
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  • I think it was a political hit job by Huff.  I call it a transparent failure.
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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #14 on: October 29, 2023, 09:40:37 PM »
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  • I think it was a political hit job by Huff.  I call it a transparent failure.

    It had occurred to me it may have been a tantrum substitution....sort of an FU, that's what you want, you got it. I would hope not. I hve no doubt Huff is both trying hard and extremely frustrated.

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    « Reply #15 on: October 29, 2023, 10:33:37 PM »
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  • It had occurred to me it may have been a tantrum substitution....sort of an FU, that's what you want, you got it. I would hope not. I hve no doubt Huff is both trying hard and extremely frustrated.

    And I get why he is frustrated.  At the end of the day you can call the best plays in the world, but if your Wr's can't catch a cold it won't matter.  If your lbers bite on every rpo it won't matter.


    BUT, he recruited these guys, the best players are not his.  So at the end of the day he skimped on the offensive side of the ball and the D side with depth and it is now blown up in his face and ours.


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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #16 on: October 30, 2023, 08:50:26 AM »
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  • It's rumored that TJ has a bum shoulder and not healing. Another Alex Thompson situation

    This is in fact a true statement.
     

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    « Reply #17 on: October 30, 2023, 08:53:22 AM »
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  • It had occurred to me it may have been a tantrum substitution....sort of an FU, that's what you want, you got it. I would hope not. I have no doubt Huff is both trying hard and extremely frustrated.

    I think game 8 is different than game 3 or 4. IF we make QB change early in the year I'd say it would have been McMahon, but being this deep in the year playing  younger guy makes sense as far as the future but this team can still make a bowl game.

    Could also be to save McMahon's redshirt at this point and let him play the last 4 games and then start next year.
     

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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #18 on: October 30, 2023, 08:54:50 AM »
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  • If Huff has no intention to play TJ then we wasted a scholarship on him just so Huff could tell fans he brought in a tportal QB and Fancher is better. 

    Fancher is a bust.  Huff's offense is a bust.  Time to kick both to the curb.

    We need 2 wins to go bowling.  The extra practice time and being able to tell recruits you have a winning record and are going to a bowl has value.
     

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    « Reply #19 on: October 30, 2023, 09:15:05 AM »
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  • He looked fine, when Cam's helmet came off at ECU.  He came in took the snap, threw a 7 yard dart and got pulled.

    If you recall a few years ago, Thompson came in for a game, threw a few great passes on a series and never played again. Shoulder just wasn't strong enough.


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    Re: Why did we play Cole over TJ?
    « Reply #20 on: October 30, 2023, 10:45:59 AM »
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  • TJ McMahon tucked tail and ran from a busted up JT Daniels.  He also has an injured shoulder that the staff didn't know about because they took him sight unseen.

    Just because he has 3000 yards doesn't mean he's any good either.
     

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    « Reply #21 on: October 30, 2023, 11:26:52 AM »
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  • TJ McMahon tucked tail and ran from a busted up JT Daniels.  He also has an injured shoulder that the staff didn't know about because they took him sight unseen.

    Just because he has 3000 yards doesn't mean he's any good either.
    He was good. I watched him myself, much better than anything we've seen from a QB at Marshall in a while.
     

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    « Reply #22 on: October 30, 2023, 11:29:59 AM »
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  • He was good. I watched him myself, much better than anything we've seen from a QB at Marshall in a while.

    He threw 14 picks in 10 games last year.  He's just another guy who can't play in a QB room full of guys who can't play.
     

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    « Reply #23 on: October 30, 2023, 11:31:45 AM »
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  • Now that the Pennington's have seen the sh!t show that is present day Marshall football (it ain't 1999 anymore here) I think Chad steps down from the BOG and Cole transfers. I think this happens in next 18 months.
     

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    « Reply #24 on: October 30, 2023, 11:36:41 AM »
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  • Now that the Pennington's have seen the sh!t show that is present day Marshall football (it ain't 1999 anymore here) I think Chad steps down from the BOG and Cole transfers. I think this happens in next 18 months.
    Hard to tell.  I know when we went for it on 4th down and they rolled Cole to his left, I about came unglued!!  Can't imagine what his Dad was thinking.  Wasn't the best play call for a kid getting his first real game action.  Huff can say he didn't execute.  I'll say they didn't put him in the best situations either.  (that play and also, the fumble on the 1, we were in a 5 wide set.  WHY?!?  Give the kid some protection!!) 
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