Topic: Huff leaves directly after this season & assistants/position coaches go as well

[Johnnyherd]

25-30 football players will portal, all the new recruits will de commit and we'll probably win 2 or 3 games in 2024.  I don't know the answer but rushing to the fire a guy isn't gonna be good in any way.

If you're a hot head coaching prospect, are you interested in taking a job that has no talent in the cupboard and the school just fired a coach for going 6-6 after two consecutive winning seasons?

[forphase1]

25-30 football players will portal, all the new recruits will de commit and we'll probably win 2 or 3 games in 2024.  I don't know the answer but rushing to the fire a guy isn't gonna be good in any way.

If you're a hot head coaching prospect, are you interested in taking a job that has no talent in the cupboard and the school just fired a coach for going 6-6 after two consecutive winning seasons?

Seriously?  You are worried about losing the 'talent' he has been bringing in?!?!?!?  Based on what I see from our OL, QB and WR play, let his recruits go somewhere else as they shouldn't be suiting up for us anyway.  Name me one guy on offense who if they leave would really hurt us, other than Ali obviously.  And firing him for going 6-6?  Looking more lie 4-8 to me!

[herd2win]

Someone has to want you and we don't really have any eye popping players that others teams would want.  Dumb reason not to let Huff go if we continue to fold.

[wasbarryb]

Someone has to want you and we don't really have any eye popping players that others teams would want.  Dumb reason not to let Huff go if we continue to fold.

Agreed.  Whenever Huff leaves, the new coach is going to face a major rebuilding project.  As with actual real buildings, putting off rebuilding usually just makes things worse.

Would like to see some kind of negotiated departure where we can reduce the buy out, but bye bye looks like the best option however it comes about.

[MicDrass1]

New coach can pull a Primetime.  Recruit new team.  Smart move. 

[gochneaur645]

Is there even one assistant coach on this team we actually want to come back?

[parshall2marshall]

Doesn't make me Criswell that I predicted Doc would not be back ( "I don't see how they can..." ), yet I am less certain what will be done with Huff.

But how can he be brought back with the ridiculous things Huff has stated in his press conferences ? Perhaps the most glaring being that he "was not going to endanger someone's child" when he had a QB running around on 1 leg for all to see with basically no OL. And not having a backup QB ready with 5 of them on the roster.

That Huff has limited people skills and apparently coaching contacts, which some on here have stated ... to me it means that if true we should cut our losses with Huff. Because the situation may not likely improve in rapid fashion.

May come down to money and commitment. Probably gonna take $ 2.5 to 3 MM *extra* to right the ship along with the sad realization we need a rebuild. I just don't see another way around it. Because there seems a real danger of totally losing the fanbase ( like we had to do with Herrion ).   

[bbcard1]

Maybe Randy Moss would be interested in seeing if he could pull off a Deion? As unhappy as I am with our recent performance, I think Huff is our best shot.

[svherd]

Is there even one assistant coach on this team we actually want to come back?

Ralph Street. He's done a solid job with the DL. He should have been DC after Guidry left. jmo

[whf]

Is there even one assistant coach on this team we actually want to come back?

Street and Morrison both, and I'd look at giving Mike Bartrum an actual coaching position as well.

Although Morrison's linebackers are struggling this year, last year proved he knows how to coach LBs, and his striving to find the right guys right now is also indicative that he "gets it".

[BigJimslade]

New coach can pull a Primetime.  Recruit new team.  Smart move.

Yeah that?s working really well for Sanders
He is a joke

[BigJimslade]

25-30 football players will portal, all the new recruits will de commit and we'll probably win 2 or 3 games in 2024.  I don't know the answer but rushing to the fire a guy isn't gonna be good in any way.

If you're a hot head coaching prospect, are you interested in taking a job that has no talent in the cupboard and the school just fired a coach for going 6-6 after two consecutive winning seasons?

You are speculating the Herd finishes 6-6
And then speculating Huff leaves
And so on

[parshall2marshall]

I see what some of you guys are hinting at... throwing money at a problem is not the Marshall Way. It has worked out for us sometimes, i.e. one of the last DC's Doc had, and definitely Guidry, But, just like WITH high salaries ... going on the cheap doesn't always work out.

I was just thinking if a personable guy like Leftwich was the HC and with $500K to spend on each coordinator ( not special teams, although critical as well ) we'd probably be in good shape in a couple of seasons.

[MUonium]

25-30 football players will portal, all the new recruits will de commit and we'll probably win 2 or 3 games in 2024.  I don't know the answer but rushing to the fire a guy isn't gonna be good in any way.

      nobody knows for certain if your first sentence would be true or even close

If you're a hot head coaching prospect, are you interested in taking a job that has no talent in the cupboard and the school just fired a coach for going 6-6 after two consecutive winning seasons?

      there's a difference inheriting a decent roster as opposed to a near-total rebuild (if your very first sentence rings true).  can we live with a coach who has a good running start but gets worse -or- a coach who has a bad running start but slowly gets better, say in year 3?

[gochneaur645]

Yeah that?s working really well for Sanders
He is a joke

He's turned a 1-11 team into a 4-4 team that might go to a bowl playing in the toughest conference in the country.

I'm not even a Deion fan, but that's more of a success story than a joke. He'll probably have an even better team next year.

[Garbanjo]

He's turned a 1-11 team into a 4-4 team that might go to a bowl playing in the toughest conference in the country.

I'm not even a Deion fan, but that's more of a success story than a joke. He'll probably have an even better team next year.

Yea he's a joke lol. I'd love to have that "joke" at Marshall

This Fing little jimmy putana is an arse clown

[theherd011569]

I rarely post (once a month, maybe) but this is really striking a nerve with this thread. NIL has made it possible to turn a program in one year. I think fewer would leave than many believe because they would have to sit a year after coming in as a portal transfer. If you keep what you have because you fear what may be, we will be stuck in mediocrity. I do not endorse or enjoy someone losing a job but I must make those decisions myself in the real world of business and I can tell you this, it is always worse by waiting to do what you know should be done now. Not having a backup ready (5 QB?s in that room and not a single one knows the playbook after 1 1/2 years???-and the starter told you he wasn?t coming out of the game, what???) and the crazy comments about ?children in harms way? (don?t we have medical personnel telling the coach who is healthy enough to play?) are just 2 indictments on this staff that they are not rooted in reality. Cover ups for poor coaching on a weekly basis. Huff seems more than capable of putting all his eggs in a P5 victory every year but has no desire to really make this football team great every week?can?t explain it or reason it out but we can all see it with our own eyes. And this has nothing to do with booing the players or not rooting for Marshall. I have been a fan of MU since I was 6 years old and my Dad took me to see a game at Fairfield, so please don?t preach about being a true fan?and I give to the BG. It will be worse the longer we prolong the inevitable.


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[theherd011569]

I rarely post (once a month, maybe) but this is really striking a nerve with this thread. NIL has made it possible to turn a program in one year. I think fewer would leave than many believe because they would have to sit a year after coming in as a portal transfer. If you keep what you have because you fear what may be, we will be stuck in mediocrity. I do not endorse or enjoy someone losing a job but I must make those decisions myself in the real world of business and I can tell you this, it is always worse by waiting to do what you know should be done now. Not having a backup ready (5 QB?s in that room and not a single one knows the playbook after 1 1/2 years???-and the starter told you he wasn?t coming out of the game, what???) and the crazy comments about ?children in harms way? (don?t we have medical personnel telling the coach who is healthy enough to play?) are just 2 indictments on this staff that they are not rooted in reality. Cover ups for poor coaching on a weekly basis. Huff seems more than capable of putting all his eggs in a P5 victory every year but has no desire to really make this football team great every week?can?t explain it or reason it out but we can all see it with our own eyes. And this has nothing to do with booing the players or not rooting for Marshall. I have been a fan of MU since I was 6 years old and my Dad took me to see a game at Fairfield, so please don?t preach about being a true fan?and I give to the BG. It will be worse the longer we prolong the inevitable.


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And meant that the portal and not necessarily NIL has made rebuilding quicker at a school such as MU.


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[MicDrass1]

Yeah that?s working really well for Sanders
He is a joke

Improved team unlike the Herd this year

[BigJimslade]

He's turned a 1-11 team into a 4-4 team that might go to a bowl playing in the toughest conference in the country.

I'm not even a Deion fan, but that's more of a success story than a joke. He'll probably have an even better team next year.

Them being better has nothing to do with Sanders?s coaching ability

It was other players who wanted to be part of the crazines( sons, Hunter ..et Al

[gochneaur645]

Them being better has nothing to do with Sanders?s coaching ability

It was other players who wanted to be part of the crazines( sons, Hunter ..et Al

I'm not even sure what point you're trying to make now.

Most of the job of a college head coach is recruiting talent, and that's what he's done for Colorado. He also took a Jackson State team that had been going 3-8 and 4-7 for several years and went 23-3 in his two years there.

Recruiting good assistant coaches is important too. Deion got one of the best young offensive minds in the game to leave his head coaching position at Kent State to come be his OC.

That's the area Huff has failed at the most imo. Trickett, Legg, and Semore have mostly been disasters.

[Big City]

25-30 football players will portal, all the new recruits will de commit and we'll probably win 2 or 3 games in 2024.  I don't know the answer but rushing to the fire a guy isn't gonna be good in any way.

If you're a hot head coaching prospect, are you interested in taking a job that has no talent in the cupboard and the school just fired a coach for going 6-6 after two consecutive winning seasons?

 
Magic 8 ball says... not likely

[MicDrass1]

Portal player can only head back to previous school if leaves. 

[wasbarryb]

Portal player can only head back to previous school if leaves.

Even if he sits out a year?

[Johnnyherd]

You are speculating the Herd finishes 6-6
And then speculating Huff leaves
And so on

You mean the season isn't over and we aren't 6-6?  Man, you're brilliant.  You add so much insight to this page.  I can't believe we made it until you showed up.