Topic: Win two of next 3, make a bowl ?

[BigJimslade]

?.win the bowl ? then what about Huff?
Does that change anything ?

[goherd24]

#1 that won't happen. And no it wouldn't, in my eyes, he is not improving or changing anything that isn't working and says he won't blatantly in his press conferences, that he "trusts the process". The process of being last in the conference

[herd2win]

The fact he was not willing to make a QB change even though we can't score tells you all you need to know.  I will root for each victory but I am out on Huff no matter how we finish.  I predict 5-7 and if he is back we will go 4-8 next year at best.

[herdfan129]

LMAO to even think this happens. This will never happen.

It wouldn?t change my opinion regardless. It?s time to end the Huff experiment.

[elginherd]

Let's say the record is 6-6.
We need Spears to ask himself, "Did Huff deliver on why he was hired for Marshall"?

That is the most important question of the evaluation.
Then it's Spears' job to rustle up some money for the buyout & a new HFC.

[svherd]

6-6 and he stays. Spears won't fire him. If we lose out, he may fire him IF someone comes up with the 755K to buy him out.

Sadly, the best thing would be to fire this staff, start with a new staff and rebuild in 2024. There won't be a quick fix. Jmo

[parshall2marshall]

We have *not* seen anything to indicate what I am proposing, however let me state that it would not surprise me if the Herd did the following :

1) Huff yields to "pressure" ( Don't ask !! ) and starts Cole at QB the rest of the way.
2) Herd has a "Green Helmet Night" and upsets Georgia Southern
3) Herd closes out by defeating Arkansas State to finish 6-6.

Not sure what opponent we could defeat in a bowl, but the table would be set. I am not predicting this, but, again, it would not surprise me if things played out like this.

[Buffalo Bop]

If Huff wins 2 of the remaining 3 games left, I'll be shocked. Our players look more like the Keystone Cops with everyone going in a different direction.

[gochneaur645]

We have *not* seen anything to indicate what I am proposing, however let me state that it would not surprise me if the Herd did the following :

1) Huff yields to "pressure" ( Don't ask !! ) and starts Cole at QB the rest of the way.
2) Herd has a "Green Helmet Night" and upsets Georgia Southern
3) Herd closes out by defeating Arkansas State to finish 6-6.

Not sure what opponent we could defeat in a bowl, but the table would be set. I am not predicting this, but, again, it would not surprise me if things played out like this.

Not sure if you were literal about the green helmets, but there are already pictures of the black helmets we're wearing this week.

I agree it wouldn't be the weirdest thing to win the final two remaining home games to get to 6-6. The godawful 2016 team somehow managed to murder a pretty good MTSU team on the November 14th game that season. Arkansas State isn't quite the patsy everyone thought, but it's not like beating them here would be some miracle.

But finishing 6-6 wouldn't change anything for me regarding Huff. The lows have been far too low for him to stay.

[muherd34]

Team doesn't have a heart beat.  Not sure how we win 2 more with Fancher and co

[puma]

I don't think there are 2 winnable games left.

Georgia Southern - Even the 2016 team won their memorial game, so maybe? But Georgia Southern is actually pretty good. But if there's an inexplicable win, then it would probably be this game.

South Alabama - While not as good as expected in the pre-season, it's an away game against a decent opponent after potentially 6 losses in a row.

Arkansas State - A bad program that seems to be having a decent season right after Thanksgiving in a cold and empty stadium.

I guess we'll see for sure on Saturday if the team has completely given up. If it's a complete WKU-style beatdown, I wouldn't expect any more Ws this season. With a W, then 6-6 and a bowl might be possible. No way I'd ever put money on that though.

[MicDrass1]

Huff needs stronger assistants

[GreenWhite]

Wish it would make a difference. It's more entertaining to watch paint dry than to watch this Herd offense. I will have the TV on, but just like this past Saturday, it will be background noise.

[HerdEcon]

Huff needs stronger assistants

Among other things.  Quality depth being one of them.  Huff has to step up the recruiting.  Coming from Alabama and Penn State I think Huff has his recruiting sights set to low.  We were not at the bottom of G5 talent wise when he took over.  Just look at the skill positions.  We have no quality depth at RB; we don't have a #1 WR (and no depth at that position); and apparently our QB room is lacking so much talent that Huff thinks our only chance is Fancher.  No excuse for a drought of skill position players after Huff's 3 years in the transfer portal era.  Best recruiter in the nation BS. 

[parshall2marshall]

Not sure if you were literal about the green helmets, but there are already pictures of the black helmets we're wearing this week.

I agree it wouldn't be the weirdest thing to win the final two remaining home games to get to 6-6. The godawful 2016 team somehow managed to murder a pretty good MTSU team on the November 14th game that season. Arkansas State isn't quite the patsy everyone thought, but it's not like beating them here would be some miracle.

But finishing 6-6 wouldn't change anything for me regarding Huff. The lows have been far too low for him to stay.

My "Green Helmet Night" reference was figurative only. I was there for the original and it didn't take me long to see that the Herd, was, how shall I put it (?) "Inspired".

[Lord Haw-Haw]

Charles Huff. No way that Marshall brings him back under any circumstance. Especially forget the scenario about changing coordinator assistants, and others at this point. Huff has wasted three years of Marshall's resources in his ambition driven, and vain attempt to leave here for greener pastures. He's 16-15 versus FBS competition in 3 years by my count. How far have we fallen?

[CharlestonHerdGuy]

My opinion is different than most I think. 2 of the next three are home games and Arkansas State is as bad as we are. I think we win the two remaining home games.

[muherd34]

My opinion is different than most I think. 2 of the next three are home games and Arkansas State is as bad as we are. I think we win the two remaining home games.

I mean...anything is possible.

[ru4mu2]

My "Green Helmet Night" reference was figurative only. I was there for the original and it didn't take me long to see that the Herd, was, how shall I put it (?) "Inspired".

I knew what you meant, lol.  I was there that night.

[elginherd]

Charles Huff. No way that Marshall brings him back under any circumstance. Especially forget the scenario about changing coordinator assistants, and others at this point. Huff has wasted three years of Marshall's resources in his ambition driven, and vain attempt to leave here for greener pastures. He's 16-15 versus FBS competition in 3 years by my count. How far have we fallen?

I wish we could be confident in your first sentence.

The only thing that I hear, and this is 4th hand, is that Spears is getting an earful from some bigger donors.

[svherd]

I wish we could be confident in your first sentence.

The only thing that I hear, and this is 4th hand, is that Spears is getting an earful from some bigger donors.

Good. Glad they are making their voices heard. I assume the donors want he and the staff fired after this year. Extending is not the best, changing assistants will not help, he doesn't know any good ones. Thus the the best option would be to part ways with the staff and hire a new staff after the season. This is not gonna be a short term fix, either way, 2024 is not looking good. New staff shoots for 2025 to get back on track and roll from there. jmho.

[parshall2marshall]

I knew what you meant, lol.  I was there that night.

I hope no one else catches my sarcasm ... a lot on the Board hate my beliefs and I don't blame them. I hate my beliefs too.

I'm really old to suffer YAR ( Yet Another Rebuild ) but I hope we get a new staff and that the coach leaves on good terms i.e. not in a Huff.

Back on the original topic, I did note that GASO had been outscored on the season so far in conference play, and that they are like 5-0 at home and like 1-3 on the road. If we weren't playing so poorly perhaps those factoids would provide more hope.

[Buffalo Bop]

https://x.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1721908867775316191?s=20

[herdfan93]

We have a slim chance of winning the last 2 home games, I'm guessing by 3 or less and I think we'll get blown out by USA.   I hope this isn't good enough to keep everything the way it is. 

[Oldtimer]

We have some extremely overly optimistic fans on here on the capabilities of Marshall to compete on any kind of a regular basis with the power five teams.
We have a minority coach with a resume as a good assistant from some big-time football programs. After 3 years at Marshall a potential .500 winning record.
We already know the limits of our financial situation and what we can pay any coach and people are convinced that Marshall will fire him. I think not.