Topic: Marshall vs. Radford Game Thread

[herdorbust2]

Exactly. Don't forget, a couple here are just waiting to come spew their negativity and hate on Dan at all costs, whether warranted or not.

They say he can't recruit, yet he recruited our #1 and #2 all timers, and 2 more top 10s. He recruits and has good players, they get bought away and he brings in transfers they said he wouldn't

They say they all suck, which they clearly don't. He is in a tough situation and i think he put together a decent team. We don't have $400k to pay players. They have to want to come here for basically nothing.

Serious question? Why do you give Dan as many loses we no complaints. Football has one at Bowling Green and you are done. Dan had a 12-21 year then followed up with 2 first round tournament losses. Now we get beat by Radford and you still act like he is the greatest. What would it take for you to say enough is enough? Or is there enough?

[herdorbust2]

There were a lot of missed easy layups, and a lot of missed open 3s.
Make a few more of either, we're whistling a different tune.

No kidding!!! I'll bet a lot of teams could say the same thing. You also forgot to mention rebounding and in game adjustments.

[MidlandKnight]

There is no doubt the setting effected our shooting, it did both teams. However, Radford was the first to adjust to it and went inside, saw some baskets go in, and started hitting a few outside shots to take the big lead. To our credit, we made adjustments at half and started taking advantage of our size and turned the game around.

This is my problem with Danny, this adjustment should have been made in the first 8 minutes of the game, not half time. Too many times Voyles and Crawford tried to play hero ball and it cost us. Don't get me wrong I think both of these guys are good additions, but because they are transfers the coaching has to pick up and teach them so called "Hillbilly Ball" on a faster pace.

[parshall2marshall]

As Teddy Pendergrass sang with Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes in the song Wake Up Everybody "get off the dope". LOL

Do you really think Martin would starting for the University of Florida? If Martin was that good he would have been recruited by a P5 (he had no P5 portal offers) program instead of ending up at MU. I guess you know more than a SEC coach.

I think the point 24 might be trying to make is that our team needs a Martin perhaps more than a Handlogten. Doesn't mean the latter doesn't have a lot more upside / pro potential. Hard to imagine him going for 14/14 against UVA but the stats don't lie. That is coaching and the surrounding cast.

I could tell we were going to struggle mightily on the road. I didn't see the leadership with the new cast. With the freedom to execute Danny's system comes the responsibility to bring toughness and smart basketball on a possession-by-possession basis - we don't have that. Maybe shoot 250 or so FT's on your own time. Hit the weights every available moment - making sacrifices. I don't think more than a couple have that kind of commitment. If they can fight like h3ll on every possession ( D and rebounding ) we can finish over .500. We can win with finess at home... on the road not so much. Maybe Martin can lead by example.

[herdorbust2]

I think the point 24 might be trying to make is that our team needs a Martin perhaps more than a Handlogten. Doesn't mean the latter doesn't have a lot more upside / pro potential. Hard to imagine him going for 14/14 against UVA but the stats don't lie. That is coaching and the surrounding cast.

I could tell we were going to struggle mightily on the road. I didn't see the leadership with the new cast. With the freedom to execute Danny's system comes the responsibility to bring toughness and smart basketball on a possession-by-possession basis - we don't have that. Maybe shoot 250 or so FT's on your own time. Hit the weights every available moment - making sacrifices. I don't think more than a couple have that kind of commitment. If they can fight like h3ll on every possession ( D and rebounding ) we can finish over .500. We can win with finess at home... on the road not so much. Maybe Martin can lead by example.

Problem is Danny doesn't coach toughness. He coaches finess and soft. It's why his teams are never good rebounders and he doesn't have a problem with it. It's why our guys stay skinny. You have to recruit toughness and demand it.

[MidlandKnight]

I think the point 24 might be trying to make is that our team needs a Martin perhaps more than a Handlogten. Doesn't mean the latter doesn't have a lot more upside / pro potential. Hard to imagine him going for 14/14 against UVA but the stats don't lie. That is coaching and the surrounding cast.

I could tell we were going to struggle mightily on the road. I didn't see the leadership with the new cast. With the freedom to execute Danny's system comes the responsibility to bring toughness and smart basketball on a possession-by-possession basis - we don't have that. Maybe shoot 250 or so FT's on your own time. Hit the weights every available moment - making sacrifices. I don't think more than a couple have that kind of commitment. If they can fight like h3ll on every possession ( D and rebounding ) we can finish over .500. We can win with finess at home... on the road not so much. Maybe Martin can lead by example.

Good analysis and agree on Martin. Danny's has said in his press conferences that this team will grow as the year goes on, and I do expect they will. With that said we are probably a 500 to slightly above 500 team.

[DC01HERD]

Danny doesn't take advantage of anything. We could play a team of midgets and we would run our same stuff. There are no adjustments. We play Dannys style of free wheeling and it never changes. And getting outrebounded by them with their bigs out by 10 is unacceptable. But if rebounding isn't a priority then it happens.

He can't play a free wheeling game with this group. Dan didn't recruit shooters. We can still win with this group if we play a certain way that Dan doesn't teach.

[scope58]

Martin dominated Micah, when he played against him. I'd take martin all day. Sorry. Even when some of you said "yeah okay, martin a stud, hahahah. Right!"

He?s not a stud D.A.

[wlf]

Martin dominated Micah, when he played against him. I'd take martin all day. Sorry. Even when some of you said "yeah okay, martin a stud, hahahah. Right!"

Your feuding has warped your sensibilities.

From my perspective as of now,Martin was the best get, but we wouldn't have gotten him if Florida had wanted him , including nobody else we got.

We don't  or can't out recruit people. I'm glad I got to watch Handlogden while he was here, he was a gift ( and that's how he got here, (same as Burkes and Elmore).

[sleeinwv]

Well the ship was fine last year and then took on water. And Radford a powerhouse?

Of course the ship was right last year.   They were throwing out cupcakes like Halloween candy. 

[MicDrass1]

We need to see if McKee can compliment Martin and Obinna.   (3) guys that can play big & are athletic

Go traditional

SF
PF
C
2 guards

[Garbanjo]

No way to sugar coat it

A bad loss

[goherd24]

Your feuding has warped your sensibilities.

From my perspective as of now,Martin was the best get, but we wouldn't have gotten him if Florida had wanted him , including nobody else we got.

We don't  or can't out recruit people. I'm glad I got to watch Handlogden while he was here, he was a gift ( and that's how he got here, (same as Burkes and Elmore).

Yeah yeah, give no credit but blame blame blame. Typical

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[coalherd]

Serious question? Why do you give Dan as many loses we no complaints. Football has one at Bowling Green and you are done. Dan had a 12-21 year then followed up with 2 first round tournament losses. Now we get beat by Radford and you still act like he is the greatest. What would it take for you to say enough is enough? Or is there enough?

It "ain't" about the Ws, bust.  It "ain't" about championships!!

By now everybody, on here and elsewhere, should know that when it comes to Danny D'Antoni, it's strictly ALL ABOUT "FUN"!!

Heck, for half the crowd they just can't wait for Danny to cross his arms and smile, or perhaps "chuckle"!!  No doubt a big portion of the audience is on the verge of a "boygasm"!!!

[wlf]

Yeah yeah, give no credit but blame blame blame. Typical

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You're not any different than those you rail against . Loving Marshall basketball and having an opinion is not test of egos .

I posted several years ago that recruiting was a weakness and I haven't changed my mind, irregardless of how many practices I've watched. I and most everyone here with a couple exceptions wanted DD to be successful. It took almost 10 years to get a young assistant to help recruiting.

It's not bias except on your part.

[Herdalum83]

Problem is Danny doesn't coach toughness. He coaches finess and soft. It's why his teams are never good rebounders and he doesn't have a problem with it. It's why our guys stay skinny. You have to recruit toughness and demand it.

I personally don't think you can coach toughness (mental or physical) those are intangible qualities that you either have or you don't. DD doesn't recruit guys who have it though