On the original question about Holtmann, I'd be interested in talking to him as part of a pool of candidates for the job. He was able to get Gardner-Webb's program moving in the right direction culminating in their first D1 postseason appearance in his final season there. He had good success at Butler. He's from Lexington, and has had coaching jobs in North Carolina and Ohio. So, he should have familiarity with areas we should be recruiting. I look at a guy like John Groce and think Holtmann could be a comp. Had good success at lower levels, didn't cut it in the Big 10, and has moved back to Akron and is heading up one of the top programs in the MAC.