Topic: Who is to blame for mens basketball

[BigJimslade]

Dan
Spears
Smith
The fans who continue to buy tickets

There u have it

[svherd]

Dan is the coach. He is the man most responsible for the direction of the program.

[herd2win]

Dan is number 1 to blame as he could recruit and coach better. 

Now because we all see the issues, Spears and Smith have accountability to this mess.

[jdonaccbus]

Who is to blame?

*The transfer portal
*Andy Taylor leaving late
*The OOC schedule was too tough; more Appalachian Bibles and less powers like Oakland
*Social media ; our players read it and it is too negative out there
*The fans for getting angry during a period when we lost 7 straight
*The other team was full of 23 and 24 year olds
*Not enough energy from the bench
*Assistant coaches not properly preparing the team
*NCAA allows too many days now for practices; we don't need all those days....too much work
*Bringing in a young & hungry coach in women's basketball and she shows us that you don't have to just settle for mediocrity
*During one of the pre-game meals at the restaurant in the hotel, there was a couple on the other side of the room chewing their celery too loud.

[herd2win]

Who is to blame?

*The transfer portal
*Andy Taylor leaving late
*The OOC schedule was too tough; more Appalachian Bibles and less powers like Oakland
*Social media ; our players read it and it is too negative out there
*The fans for getting angry during a period when we lost 7 straight
*The other team was full of 23 and 24 year olds
*Not enough energy from the bench
*Assistant coaches not properly preparing the team
*NCAA allows too many days now for practices; we don't need all those days....too much work
*Bringing in a young & hungry coach in women's basketball and she shows us that you don't have to just settle for mediocrity
*During one of the pre-game meals at the restaurant in the hotel, there was a couple on the other side of the room chewing their celery too loud.

This post is pure gold...well done.

[MUfan08]

Who is to blame?

*The transfer portal
*Andy Taylor leaving late
*The OOC schedule was too tough; more Appalachian Bibles and less powers like Oakland
*Social media ; our players read it and it is too negative out there
*The fans for getting angry during a period when we lost 7 straight
*The other team was full of 23 and 24 year olds
*Not enough energy from the bench
*Assistant coaches not properly preparing the team
*NCAA allows too many days now for practices; we don't need all those days....too much work
*Bringing in a young & hungry coach in women's basketball and she shows us that you don't have to just settle for mediocrity
*During one of the pre-game meals at the restaurant in the hotel, there was a couple on the other side of the room chewing their celery too loud.

Don't forget
Hamrick
O'Malley
Not having a President
Not having an AD
Covid
Conference not pulling strings to get us in NCAA or NIT (can't be he played a terrible OOC schedule in 2022-23)
Paneva abandoning (not having a backup plan)
NIL
Young team (even though KenPom has us as the 36th oldest team in the nation by age and games played metrics)
Playing in CUSA
Playing in SBC
The fans putting too much pressure on the players and it might be a reason we are not making shots (literally brought that up during the last home game)
The girls playing before the guys and it messes with their preparation
Not having Shaq for a low post threat

[Buffalo Bop]

Simply, Dan's unwillingness to retire.

[Garbanjo]

Simply, Dan's unwillingness to retire.

That's true and terribly selfish and delusional on his part

However, Smith and the BoG should step up and "retire" him if he won't do the right thing for Marshall

Men's basketball is a dumpster fire and it only gets worse from here

[GreenWhite]

This whole scenario falls on D'Antoni. He made the mess that someone else will end up cleaning up.

[MicDrass1]

His reluctance to recruit certain types of players is hurting the program.  His standards are off. 

[bighat]

Our boards are filled with posts about Dan when they should be celebrating the women's team.

[wasbarryb]

Our boards are filled with posts about Dan when they should be celebrating the women's team.

The board is big enough for all.

[Garbanjo]

Our boards are filled with posts about Dan when they should be celebrating the women's team.

The men's program is one of the 2 big $$$ sports and is a dumpster fire

We should have torches and pitchforks out lol

[drewbox]

The guy that hired Freeman and then stuck with him as he destroyed the program.  The BB program has never truly recovered.  JMO

[herd1990]

Fault in descending order:

Dan Dantoni
Kathy Dantoni
Christian Spears
Brad Smith
Anyone who goes to games next year.

[DC01HERD]

Dan is but his enablers are about 49%

[Flat Tire 2]

Dan is the coach. He is the man most responsible for the direction of the program.

I agree to some extent that it is Dan's fault. But after he has some years with the the program going downhill it is the fault of those who do his evaluation or make the hiring decision. Marshall has made this mistake before when it allowed a few people with money to influence the hiring of coaches. Think Mark Snyder.

The majority of the best coaching hires have been done by good, professional AD. As bad as a facility as Fairfield was we hire Parish; Chaump and Donnan. The Marshall U athletic directors did some great hiring in those cases. Huck; Altman and Donovan were good hires and even Donnie Jones and Greg White had better winning records % than Dan against stronger competition.

[herdfan429]

You all do know that we've been mediocre at best for the last 30+ years.

[herdorbust2]

You all do know that we've been mediocre at best for the last 30+ years.

So you are ok with staying mediocre?

[herdorbust2]

At this point it is the fans fault for buying tickets and showing up. There will be change once the fans demand it and stop going. So if you still go and buy tickets stop complaining.

[MicDrass1]

You all do know that we've been mediocre at best for the last 30+ years.

We are below mediocre

[wasbarryb]

Harry Truman was famous for his buck stops here desk plaque.

Brad Smith didn't cause this mess, but ultimately, he is responsible for allowing it to continue.

[herdfifteen]

Harry Truman was famous for his buck stops here desk plaque.

Brad Smith didn't cause this mess, but ultimately, he is responsible for allowing it to continue.

I disagree with the first part of your statement, Smith was very much involved in the decision to extend DD.

[wasbarryb]

I disagree with the first part of your statement, Smith was very much involved in the decision to extend DD.

I was referring to ten years ago when DD was hired, Brad Smith was not president at that time.  I don't know how involved he was with contract extension, but he was here at that time, and to be consistent with my Truman reference he was certainly responsible for the decision.  Three years ago he new to the job.  Certainly he's been around long enough now that keeping or extending DD at this point is something Smith can't escape ultimate responsibility for.

[mu79grad]

Someone with very, very close ties to the athletic department told me that Spears and Dan do not get along and do not speak to each other.  If true, and my source is impeccable. that is an awful scenario for Marshall basketball.