Topic: QB Transfers... Marshall vs Sun Belt

[HerdEcon]

Regarding QBs, how do you think Marshall did in the transfer portal compared to how other Sun Belt schools did?

Marshall
Braylon Braxton, from Tulsa

Texas State
Jordan McCloud, from JMU

JMU
Dylan Morris, from Washington

Coastal Carolina
Noah Kim, from Michigan State
Tad Hudson, from UNC

So Miss
Tate Rodemaker, from Florida State

Georgia State
Christian Veilleux, from Pitt
Zach Gibson, from Georgia Tech

Georgia Southern
Dexter Williams, from Indiana

Arkansas State
Timmy McClain, from UCF
Malik Hornsby, from Tx State

App State
Charles Wright, from Texas

ODU
Emmet Morehead, from Boston College

ULM
General Booty, from Oklahoma
Reese Mooney, from North Tx


Schools such as JMU, Ga State, and Coastal Carolina are looking for someone to come in and replace a departed QB.  Some schools seem to be adding depth to the QB room, such as App State and ODU.  Of the Sun Belt programs that brought in a transfer QB and with the departure of Griffis, Marshall and Texas State are the only programs that did not bring in a P5 transfer QB.  Texas State hit a homerun by bringing in McCloud from JMU. 

[bbcard1]

I do wish we had gotten General Booty.  And their other transfer quarterback is named Mooney.

I think Braxton will be much better than he has shown thusfar.

[herd1990]

I'd say with Griffis gone, we had the worst QB transfer class in the entire conference.  Fluff may be a decent recruiter but he sucks at finding qb's.....

[MicDrass1]

Marshall should always have a Top 3 QB in the league.  HC should always respect and maintain/protect successful traditions some schools might have.  Marshall football has Qb tradition and it?s not being protected.  I?m all for giving HC time but over time if tradition isn?t being protected time to try finding someone that can hopefully restore it.

[MUonium]

seriously, i'd like to hear straight up and honest from Pruett, Pennington, Leftwich, Moss and others as to why Marshall can't get a quality QB, at least more often than every decade or more?  it's perplexing, disturbing, frustrating, and even anger inducing.  not to mention the economic bullet to MU's wallet!

[MicDrass1]

seriously, i'd like to hear straight up and honest from Pruett, Pennington, Leftwich, Moss and others as to why Marshall can't get a quality QB, at least more often than every decade or more?  it's perplexing, disturbing, frustrating, and even anger inducing.  not to mention the economic bullet to MU's wallet!

I don?t understand it either.

[Johnnyherd]

Considering we knew as soon as the end of season portal opened Fancher left, and we saw how lost and confused Pennington looked, so we should have probably brought in 3 minimum. 

If you have a QB recruit that wants a guarantee, you tell them if you are the best, I guarantee you?ll play.

[HerdEcon]

Considering we knew as soon as the end of season portal opened Fancher left, and we saw how lost and confused Pennington looked, so we should have probably brought in 3 minimum. 

Excellent point.  Huff knew before several of the other Sun Belt schools that our first team QB was leaving.  He had more time to evaluate and recruit QBs that any other coach on that list.  Some of those schools had to find a new HC coach and a QB. 

Unless Braxton has improved his passing, Pennington will be our first team QB at the start of the season.  For some unknown reason I believe Pennington improved in the off season.  With the game experience and extra coaching time he got in the off season, if he didn't improved then he probably never will.  This will be his third season in the program. 

[MUther]

This will be his third season in the program.

And now has gametime experience and a feel for the speed of the game.  I'm sure that has helped mentally even though it was mostly a disaster last year.

[Buffalo Bop]

It wouldn't surprise me if another QB from the portal shows up for fall camp.

[Johns1124]

It wouldn't surprise me if another QB from the portal shows up for fall camp.

That is kind of what I read somewhere.

[svherd]

I don?t understand it either.

I take it that our last 3 HC's weren't all that experienced. Two were mostly defense or ST guys. Huff was mostly RB guy but historically never ran or helped develop an offense. Our next HC must be an offense first type guy who has shown the ability to develop QB's or recruit good QB's
That's where it starts at our level. Look at Brohm, JMU's coach, Kinne at Tx State, Boise St - historically. Many successful guys place the QB as the big man on the team and build from there. You have to at the G5 level.

Then it breaks down to the connections those coaches have to build a solid staff. Our offensive staffs for most of the last 20 years haven't been great - take away the Cato years

Jmho

[MicDrass1]

Wonder if the OC starts to get the offense going but Herd doesn?t win much that the OC becomes HC

[Garbanjo]

I take it that our last 3 HC's weren't all that experienced. Two were mostly defense or ST guys. Huff was mostly RB guy but historically never ran or helped develop an offense. Our next HC must be an offense first type guy who has shown the ability to develop QB's or recruit good QB's
That's where it starts at our level. Look at Brohm, JMU's coach, Kinne at Tx State, Boise St - historically. Many successful guys place the QB as the big man on the team and build from there. You have to at the G5 level.

Then it breaks down to the connections those coaches have to build a solid staff. Our offensive staffs for most of the last 20 years haven't been great - take away the Cato years

Jmho

Yep and look at what's happened to Herd football

Target a baller D2 coach please

No more Fing projects or D first coaches

O first

[HerdEcon]

It wouldn't surprise me if another QB from the portal shows up for fall camp.

I see that Charles Wright has entered the portal again after transferring from Texas to App State.  I guess he didn't like the idea of setting behind proven QB Joey Aguilar.  His scouting report looks good, may be a good get if Huff can make it happen. 

Otherwise, the not a lot remaining in the portal to pick from.  Maybe the one and done guy from TCU. 

[gochneaur645]

I'd say with Griffis gone, we had the worst QB transfer class in the entire conference.  Fluff may be a decent recruiter but he sucks at finding qb's.....

I think you're underestimating how bad some of those other QB's absolutely sucked at their P5 schools.

[whf]

I think you're underestimating how bad some of those other QB's absolutely sucked at their P5 schools.

Thanks, someone else finally saying it, can't play somewhere, look elsewhere. Can't play there, look again.

[HerdEcon]

Thanks, someone else finally saying it, can't play somewhere, look elsewhere. Can't play there, look again.

Is that a blanket statement that applies to all transfers?  75%?  50%?  Or only a few?

According to 24/7 we brought in 30 transfers.

[marshallz13]

I'd say we got the raw end of the deal. How Texas State lands McCloud and other schools get these P5 dude boggles the mind. I don't understand why we for some reason we always pick the wrong guys to transfer in.

[MicDrass1]

Did we transfer in any good fcs players like we did with Andre Sams

[whf]

My comments were specifically about QBs, but it applies to MANY others as well.

[BigJimslade]

PENNY2.0

[MicDrass1]

PENNY2.0

It?s time ...... it?s year #3 at MU ..... like father like son

[herdloyal]

Any report that Chad took his son into a QB training camp or has he seen the writing on his sons wall?

[coalherd]

Maybe what we see here is another example of that "Name Thingy".  Would his HS career have gotten him a MU, and/or a D1 scholarship if his last name was different?  As I recall, he played at a small Private School against some very "suspect" competition.  How many other D1 scholarships did he have?