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Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2024, 06:03:55 PM »
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  • Corny doesn?t deserve a 2nd year. Just being honest.


    He will get it because he is cheap. And our administration doesn't give two flips about the basketball program. They just want to win enough to not lose all the fans. If they can keep 1500-2000 at the games then they are happy.
     

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    « Reply #51 on: December 21, 2024, 06:06:28 PM »
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  • He will get it because he is cheap. And our administration doesn't give two flips about the basketball program. They just want to win enough to not lose all the fans. If they can keep 1500-2000 at the games then they are happy.
    Trust our administration.  It's all good


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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #52 on: December 21, 2024, 06:14:18 PM »
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  • Trust our administration.  It's all good


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    Don't know if trust is the correct word. I do believe that Smith and Spears will let the basketball program reach the lowest level in Marshall modern history. They will let us blend into this God awful basketball conference. We go .500 in the SB and people will say we used to go . 500 in CUSA when we first joined. But that conference was light years better than this conference when they had Memphis, Houston, Tulsa, ucf etc,,, those Donny Jones or Tom Herrion teams would destroy this conference. Heck Freeman's teams would get in the top 3.
     
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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #53 on: December 21, 2024, 06:21:58 PM »
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  • Corny should have never been given the opportunity to be our coach.  No other D1 program would have hired him to be their HC. 
     
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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #54 on: December 21, 2024, 06:33:54 PM »
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  • Corny should have never been given the opportunity to be our coach.  No other D1 program would have hired him to be their HC.


    He did it for a third of the last coach. Smith and Spears loved it.
     

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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #55 on: December 21, 2024, 07:22:36 PM »
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  • He did it for a third of the last coach. Smith and Spears loved it.

    Saving $400k will cost you a million in fan support and ticket revenue over the course of a season.
     
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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #56 on: December 21, 2024, 07:26:06 PM »
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  • Corny should have never been given the opportunity to be our coach.  No other D1 program would have hired him to be their HC.

    Agree. It's obvious this was done to pacify the Dantoni family and donors who loved DD


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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #57 on: December 21, 2024, 07:29:28 PM »
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  • Saving $400k will cost you a million in fan support and ticket revenue over the course of a season.


    They obviously don't care.
     

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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #58 on: December 21, 2024, 07:37:03 PM »
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  • We?re just terrible, let?s just go ahead and get that out of the way first of all.

    Secondly, we?re not good
     
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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #59 on: December 21, 2024, 08:48:55 PM »
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  • Agree. It's obvious this was done to pacify the Dantoni family and donors who loved DD

    Well, for the future of Marshall University basketball, that won't get us anywhere. We aren't building the fanbase. Henderson Center the last couple of years has had little to no energy. We have problems in an arena that should have a little more bounce in it during games. I am tired of pandering to those that Dan made feel like they were part of the program by rubbing elbows with him, getting to sit next to him and tell stories, open gym access, etc. You don't build a program that way. A lot of the fans that I see more and more are an older crowd. That is fine, but there is no excitement with a younger generation. And I am not just talking the student body. I just don't see a lot of late 20 year olds / early 30 year olds in the audience.

    We need a coach  who knows how to work supporters both young and old, rich and working class. People will support a basketball coach at Marshall when they see ballers and potential on the roster. People will then support a coach that they know will (a) value the dollar that is donated and (b) try to bring in the best roster possible. Hell, Rick Huckaby could squeeze a $25 donation out of a vagrant sitting on the corner of 4th Avenue and 12th Street.

    Corny should have gone to NC State when he had the chance. It would have been a better move for him. He was hurting today on his post-game interview. He took this one hard. He needs help & that is the school's job to help your new head coach. You don't strip him of one assistant coaching position in his first year. We have to get a 3rd or 4th chair assistant coach from a power conference team to come here and make him the #1 assistant. Corny has to have what other successful coaches have had and that is an ace recruiter on the staff.....a guy with Metro connections.   It seems like Mark Cline has been here for an eternity.
     
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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #61 on: December 21, 2024, 09:02:41 PM »
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  • Well, for the future of Marshall University basketball, that won't get us anywhere. We aren't building the fanbase. Henderson Center the last couple of years has had little to no energy. We have problems in an arena that should have a little more bounce in it during games. I am tired of pandering to those that Dan made feel like they were part of the program by rubbing elbows with him, getting to sit next to him and tell stories, open gym access, etc. You don't build a program that way. A lot of the fans that I see more and more are an older crowd. That is fine, but there is no excitement with a younger generation. And I am not just talking the student body. I just don't see a lot of late 20 year olds / early 30 year olds in the audience.

    We need a coach  who knows how to work supporters both young and old, rich and working class. People will support a basketball coach at Marshall when they see ballers and potential on the roster. People will then support a coach that they know will (a) value the dollar that is donated and (b) try to bring in the best roster possible. Hell, Rick Huckaby could squeeze a $25 donation out of a vagrant sitting on the corner of 4th Avenue and 12th Street.

    Corny should have gone to NC State when he had the chance. It would have been a better move for him. He was hurting today on his post-game interview. He took this one hard. He needs help & that is the school's job to help your new head coach. You don't strip him of one assistant coaching position in his first year. We have to get a 3rd or 4th chair assistant coach from a power conference team to come here and make him the #1 assistant. Corny has to have what other successful coaches have had and that is an ace recruiter on the staff.....a guy with Metro connections.   It seems like Mark Cline has been here for an eternity.


    You get it!!! I was talking about this at the Ohio U game. The crowd or lack thereof has no energy and is dwindling. If you look around I would guess 80% is at least 50+ year old people and most of those above 60. If they allow this to continue for another 10-15 years there won't be 500 in the stands. It's getting really bad and they needed to hire someone that gave the fanbase a spark. A recruiter and promoter of the program Huck style!!  And mark Cline may be a nice guy but talk about over staying your welcome. He was here with Herrion then 10 years with Dan and now Corny. And he has got very comfortable because I never saw him do much of anything. The BB program has been on a decline for a few years with no end in sight. And what's worse is no urgency to make it better.
     

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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #62 on: December 21, 2024, 09:04:54 PM »
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  •  Hell, Rick Huckaby could squeeze a $25 donation out of a vagrant sitting on the corner of 4th Avenue and 12th Street.

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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #64 on: December 22, 2024, 12:00:23 AM »
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  • It seems like Mark Cline has been here for an eternity.

    Another appeasement hire
     

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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #65 on: December 22, 2024, 07:47:48 AM »
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  • You get it!!! I was talking about this at the Ohio U game. The crowd or lack thereof has no energy and is dwindling. If you look around I would guess 80% is at least 50+ year old people and most of those above 60. If they allow this to continue for another 10-15 years there won't be 500 in the stands. It's getting really bad and they needed to hire someone that gave the fanbase a spark. A recruiter and promoter of the program Huck style!!  And mark Cline may be a nice guy but talk about over staying your welcome. He was here with Herrion then 10 years with Dan and now Corny. And he has got very comfortable because I never saw him do much of anything. The BB program has been on a decline for a few years with no end in sight. And what's worse is no urgency to make it better.
    I've had season tix since White.  I haven't stepped foot in the Henderson Center this year and it's really an after thought now.  I'm sure I'll make it down at some point but I'm pretty apathetic.

    Our administration continues to deliver.  Thankful for Grassie so there is that.


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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #66 on: December 22, 2024, 08:53:34 AM »
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  • Well, for the future of Marshall University basketball, that won't get us anywhere. We aren't building the fanbase. Henderson Center the last couple of years has had little to no energy. We have problems in an arena that should have a little more bounce in it during games. I am tired of pandering to those that Dan made feel like they were part of the program by rubbing elbows with him, getting to sit next to him and tell stories, open gym access, etc. You don't build a program that way. A lot of the fans that I see more and more are an older crowd. That is fine, but there is no excitement with a younger generation. And I am not just talking the student body. I just don't see a lot of late 20 year olds / early 30 year olds in the audience.

    We need a coach  who knows how to work supporters both young and old, rich and working class. People will support a basketball coach at Marshall when they see ballers and potential on the roster. People will then support a coach that they know will (a) value the dollar that is donated and (b) try to bring in the best roster possible. Hell, Rick Huckaby could squeeze a $25 donation out of a vagrant sitting on the corner of 4th Avenue and 12th Street.

    Corny should have gone to NC State when he had the chance. It would have been a better move for him. He was hurting today on his post-game interview. He took this one hard. He needs help & that is the school's job to help your new head coach. You don't strip him of one assistant coaching position in his first year. We have to get a 3rd or 4th chair assistant coach from a power conference team to come here and make him the #1 assistant. Corny has to have what other successful coaches have had and that is an ace recruiter on the staff.....a guy with Metro connections.   It seems like Mark Cline has been here for an eternity.


    Oh, I agree 100%. Our fan base is shrinking. I bet the average age of our b'ball game attendance has to be over 50. That's not good for the future


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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #67 on: December 22, 2024, 09:30:34 AM »
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  • Gloom and doom! "KABOOM"
    He will get it because he is cheap. And our administration doesn't give two flips about the basketball program. They just want to win enough to not lose all the fans. If they can keep 1500-2000 at the games then they are happy.
     

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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #68 on: December 22, 2024, 09:38:46 AM »
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  • Men?s bad is a joke and has been for quite sometime.  We got that lucky year with Dan and other than that MU basket has been completely irrelevant my whole life.  Not being a jerk, but I?m 41 and a huge fan, but I just don?t see how we can be so bad for so long. Lol


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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #69 on: December 22, 2024, 10:21:33 AM »
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  • I enjoyed the Elmore to Kinsey years for the most part.


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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #71 on: December 22, 2024, 01:25:16 PM »
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  • Men?s bad is a joke and has been for quite sometime.  We got that lucky year with Dan and other than that MU basket has been completely irrelevant my whole life.  Not being a jerk, but I?m 41 and a huge fan, but I just don?t see how we can be so bad for so long. Lol

    It?s ridiculous

    It wouldn?t take much to be good in BBall

    I really hope Corny learns fast, as I would love for him to be successful, but man it?s not good enough right now
     
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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #72 on: December 22, 2024, 01:41:22 PM »
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  • It?s ridiculous

    It wouldn?t take much to be good in BBall

    I really hope Corny learns fast, as I would love for him to be successful, but man it?s not good enough right now


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    Re: Southern Miss Game Thread 12/21
    « Reply #73 on: December 22, 2024, 02:34:30 PM »
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  • Well if it's true that NIL will be 3 to 4 times more next year hopefully we will see better talent. The talent now is ok if we had 2 stud ballers on this team. It's a solid nucleus to surround a couple legit players. Add an Elmore type player and the big kid from S Miss Harris to this team is all you would need to roll this conference. It just takes a couple really good players to go with the usual cast we typically get to breeze thru this conference.

    For sure we can roll this conference

    The question is Corny good enough?

    We?ll see
     
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    « Reply #74 on: December 22, 2024, 05:14:07 PM »
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  • I think we have talent to compete in this conference. But Corny needs to get more toughness and discipline from his team to execute, especially on the road and be more consistent at the FT line.
     
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