Topic: WHY NOT CONSIDER A MAN WITH 1-A HEAD COACHING EXPERIENCE?

[GreenSteve]

Why is Marcum only looking at people with no head coaching expreience? Don't you think the Marshall job is attractive enough to get a qualified, proven man with experience at a 1-A school?

We're not 1-AA, nor in the MAC anymore. We're in a league with 5 bowl slots, an extensive TV package, decent revenue, and we hav our toughest schedules ever on the way.

I don't get it.

 :-?

GS.

[herdman]

I agree. What amazes me is that our last two coaches were coordinators at high profile programs(Pruett @ Florida, Donnan @ Oklahoma). They served under two hall of fame coaches.  It seems this go around our candidates are less qualified than when were were IAA or a IA upstart.

[Blade]

I'm surprised that Gregg Brandon's name has not popped up.

[Max]

That's interesting, Blade, because I thought of his name, as well.  You talk about getting a guy who can do a lot with very little, he could be the man. Obviously, Meyer put him in a pretty good situation before he left for Utah, but facts are facts and he torched us up there this year.  Maybe he is holding out for a big payday, but Meyer went to Utah before Florida.  My fear with him, like Meyer, would be his desire to go to a BCS school in less than 5 years.

[W0lfman]

I'm surprised that Gregg Brandon's name has not popped up.

My gut feelinf is he would jump at the chance to coach at MU.  But I honestly dont think he would stick around long at Marshall if other offers came his way.  That may be reason why he isnt considered.

[HerdRocks]

What a novel idea, someone with 1-A head coaching experience.

[HerdZone]

I'm surprised that Gregg Brandon's name has not popped up.

Brandon is going to by is time at Bowling Green until O. Jacobs is gone and then he will start to look for other jobs. But as long as OJ keeps putting the BUGS and his name in the spotlight he will stay there and coach against EMU, CMU, WMU and others he can beat up on real easy.

[billybob]

I can't think of a single person with head coaching skills that is available that would want the job. Any ideas? How about Rick Neuheisel - He wouldn't stay around long but he would bring in some great recruits. I am all for snyder if he comes in and really takes charge - get rid of the dead wood and bad attitudes in the program.

[gaherdfan]

Do you all really believe that Synder will not jump ship for the first available BCS job that comes open. If my memory serves me right Coach Pruett was all set to leave Marshall a few years ago.

[W0lfman]

Do you all really believe that Synder will not jump ship for the first available BCS job that comes open.

I feel we would have a better shot keeping him around longer than we could if we hired another coach without ties to the area, who didnt graduated, and play football for Marshall.  Lets face it, we'll never be able to keep a coach that gets a job offer from UT or OSU and the like.  But what we can do is keep a coach that wont leave to go to a Pitt, Syracuse or a Baylor or any other mid-level BCS team.  Thats what we should focus our attention on to not let happen.

[billybob]

No I don't think so. He seems to really want this job. I don't see him jumping ship as quick as someone else. I could be wrong but that is what I think.

[HerdRocks]

Do you all really believe that Synder will not jump ship for the first available BCS job that comes open. If my memory serves me right Coach Pruett was all set to leave Marshall a few years ago.

Believe me PRUETT was gone until the news leaked from Houston before he was able to inform the players as well as the school, had the leak not occured he was GONE, so dont think ol Bob was so loyal either.

[2xBison]

you think the leak kept him hear??

yeah, that's what I would do.  new leaks i'm leaving for millions more than i get, so I stay?

pruett was close to leaving and almost did....but the leak didn't change his mind.  loyalty did.

[murox]

Ol' Bob isn't the good ol' boy many think he is.  Bob is out for Bob.  Not that doing what's in his best interest is a bad thing, but I believe some people have the impression that Bob put Marshall over his personal interests, and that's simply not the case.

Our fans need to understand that only a select few schools in America (maybe ten or fifteen) are "destination schools," or schools that aren't considered stepping stones.  If we have a good coach come in and win a few championships and moves on, fine with me, that just means we were successful.  As long as we're successful, we continue to elevate the status of our program.  Maybe eventually we'll arrive at the point to where we can afford to keep coaches who are looking to better provide for their family.

[HerdZone]

pruett was close to leaving and almost did....but the leak didn't change his mind.  loyalty did.

Thats Bull, the leak kept him at Marshall. It's the only thing that saved face with Pruett at the time. I love Pruett but he was gone after the 1998 season, if not for the leak.

[_sturt_]

pruett was close to leaving and almost did....but the leak didn't change his mind.  loyalty did.

Thats Bull, the leak kept him at Marshall. It's the only thing that saved face with Pruett at the time. I love Pruett but he was gone after the 1998 season, if not for the leak.

You guys are awful sure of yourselves, so I'm a little hesitant to ask the obvious question on the chance that I'm really stupid... (I know I know... never stopped me before)

but... here goes...

How does the fact that the news breaks before you were prepared for it to break force one to completely reneg on a deal... I'm just missing it... why does a leak matter in that instance???

I'd always understood it was loyalty, too... but not nearly as much loyalty to Marshall as it was loyalty to his wife, who felt like she was finally home after all those years moving from place to place.

Clue me in.

[ATHENSHERDFAN]

I agree. What amazes me is that our last two coaches were coordinators at high profile programs(Pruett @ Florida, Donnan @ Oklahoma). They served under two hall of fame coaches.  It seems this go around our candidates are less qualified than when were were IAA or a IA upstart.

I guess the DC at Ohio State is not high profile enough.

[ATHENSHERDFAN]

Do you all really believe that Synder will not jump ship for the first available BCS job that comes open.

I feel we would have a better shot keeping him around longer than we could if we hired another coach without ties to the area, who didnt graduated, and play football for Marshall.  Lets face it, we'll never be able to keep a coach that gets a job offer from UT or OSU and the like.  But what we can do is keep a coach that wont leave to go to a Pitt, Syracuse or a Baylor or any other mid-level BCS team.  Thats what we should focus our attention on to not let happen.

I agree 100% Wolf...

[HerdZone]

Clue me in.

Pruett had already accepted the job at Houston when the news broke on his way back home. The only way for him to save face when he stepped off the plane and asked questions was to say that he was considered for the job but had not accepted.

I live in Lafayette and they had broke the news an hour before he left Houston that he had accepted the job and that the contract neg would be laid out later. Two hours later Im listening to the radio and they say Puruett says he hasn't accepted the job.

Pruett was gone after the 98 season if there wasn't a leak.

[BHFIOHIO]

It's all about money.  Until we snare more state fans and change the state legislature to get more equitable funding(200 mil for them and 60 mil for us) we have gone as far as we're gonna go. This goes for hiring head coaches just the same as builing IPF's and baseball facilities. The past seven yrs is as good as it gets in my opinion...and it could get worse. Way worse. We need to increase our recruiting budget and put money priorities as they should be. Has it all been coincidence that when the FB program got rolling that new buildings were going up(library , fine arts, parking garage with 3rd ave walk over)? Maybe the academic types took advantage of the FB program and that is why Coach P is gone. I was disgusted to read this morning that we might not get new turf.

"...I"mgonna do a country blues...I was raised in Louisiana.....
     there was this old black guy worked at the feed store.....
     sat out back and played like this..............."

             Steven Stills -  Black Queen (Remastered 4 Way Street)


                      WE ARE..............................................MARSHALL

[_sturt_]

Clue me in.

The only way for him to save face when he stepped off the plane and asked questions was to say that he was considered for the job but had not accepted.

I already got that much... still a disconnect in the idea of "saving face" here for me... why, after you've accepted a job offer, is it even necessary to "save face" with anyone? If you're on your way to the next job anyway, how is it logical that someone could shame you into not taking it just because someone happened to learn about it before you intended them to? Maybe it's just me, but that sounds like a rather convoluted theory maybe bred from the fertile grounds of complete cynecism.

Still can be persuaded and still interested in more explanation, but that much just doesn't get there for me.

Guess being married and having a sense for what he seems to feel for Elsie, it's just easier for me to believe that the wife didn't want to move, and Bob respects/loves her too much to not abide by her wishes.