Topic: synder supporters

[goherd17]

I'll keep looking up, maybe wins will start falling out of the sky too.

  I have said it once and I will say it again.  We had to many bandwagon fans that jumped on board while we were winning and now they cant handle a couple of bad years.  Go Herd!!

[HerdAlum00_01]

  I have said it once and I will say it again.  We had to many bandwagon fans that jumped on board while we were winning and now they cant handle a couple of bad years.  Go Herd!!

Hey I was just being sarcastic, if you can't take it thats your fault.  If bandwagon fans still buy season tickets, donate money, and support their university in more than just football, then I guess thats me. 

Theres a difference between being able to handle a couple of bad years and recognizing mismanagment as the cause. 

You can feel free to stay on your coaching/admin bandwagon, but watch out for the cliff.

[Thundering Lydia]

Like I said this board is full of College football coaches and AD's.  You guys should apply for the job and you are so damn smart I am sure they would give you the job.  Maybe you could be our AD and our football coach and mabye even a professor.  

I just don't get statements like this.  Are MU fans only "smart" MU fans if they share one slanted opinion?

I will say this: I'm almost willing to hire some of the folks on these boards to coach.  They'd probably lose . . . but I bet they'd do it for a lot less money than what we're currently paying.   ;)

[marshallsoccer]

that is not true.  we would not have been eligible to play in the 1-aa championship.

as i recall, Boise St chose to move up a couple of years before us from 1-aa to 1-a, they used a transition year and weren't elegible.  maybe wku is doing that this year too.  we did not use a transition year and we had the 1-aa scholly limit in 1996.

Actually the rule changed after us...

Boise was eligible and beat us in the 1994 1-AA playoffs, only finished 7-4 in 1995 and wasn't good enough to make the playoffs, then were 1-A in 1996.

You are stuck now with two transition years, so WKU can't compete in the 1-AA playoffs, they can't win a conference title, and they can't go to a bowl this season and next.

[Massherdfan]

I just don't get statements like this.  Are MU fans only "smart" MU fans if they share one slanted opinion?

I will say this: I'm almost willing to hire some of the folks on these boards to coach.  They'd probably lose . . . but I bet they'd do it for a lot less money than what we're currently paying.   ;)

TL, what you have to understand is the people who make these statements are more enamored with    Mark "I don't have tan lines" Snyder, than they are w/ the betterment of our beloved University. I can almost assure you that the 4 or 5 posters who continually defend this guy will be nowhere to be found once this relationship is terminated. These posters are not for MU but rather MSU -- (Mark Snyder University). No coach or admin is bigger than the University!

[DC01HERD]

I agree Mass!

[sdfgoherd]

All I know is that when he came to Ironton he led us to two SEOAL titles  and a state championship game. So I would like to thank the people of South Point for the gift. He was an all state performer the minute he got here.

But I have been told by someon from Ironton that people still have not forgiven Snyder for losing the state championship game.  He wanted to do it all himself on the last play instead of handing-off to the running back. Now this is just what I have been told. I am not from Ironton.

[goherd17]

Mass you dont know what you talking about.  I have told you before I have been a Herd fan for over 30 years.  And I will continue to be one no matter who the coach is.  It has nothing to do with Mark Snyder.  I just say give the man a chance and thats it.  Yes he has made mistakes but I guess you are perfect.  If he does not get it turned around he should be fired but not after basically 2 years on the job.  So you can make all the stupid comments you want about it being about coach snyder its not I am a loyal herd fan and will continue to be no who the coach of the herd is.

[Massherdfan]

Mass you dont know what you talking about.  I have told you before I have been a Herd fan for over 30 years.  And I will continue to be one no matter who the coach is.  It has nothing to do with Mark Snyder.  I just say give the man a chance and thats it.  Yes he has made mistakes but I guess you are perfect.  If he does not get it turned around he should be fired but not after basically 2 years on the job.  So you can make all the stupid comments you want about it being about coach snyder its not I am a loyal herd fan and will continue to be no who the coach of the herd is.

Goherd17, I glad you're a fan of bad business. Were you a big fan of ENRON too?

By the way, I never mentioned you in my post. You must just be assuming I meant you.

[2xBison]

Actually the rule changed after us...

Boise was eligible and beat us in the 1994 1-AA playoffs, only finished 7-4 in 1995 and wasn't good enough to make the playoffs, then were 1-A in 1996.

You are stuck now with two transition years, so WKU can't compete in the 1-AA playoffs, they can't win a conference title, and they can't go to a bowl this season and next.

o.k. screw the rule change and transition years.  we did not have 22 more schollys in 1996

[marshallsoccer]

o.k. screw the rule change and transition years.  we did not have 22 more schollys in 1996

We did. Most of them were filled though with freshman, rs-freshman, and sophomores, then some were filled by Jerald Long and Eric Kresser.

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We did. Most of them were filled though with freshman, rs-freshman, and sophomores, then some were filled by Jerald Long and Eric Kresser.

I believe at the time, and I think this is still true, that in 1 AA you can have partial scholarships not to exceed 85 counters. So you have 65 schollies divided among 85 guys. Not sure we were doing this but it was possible.

[2xBison]

i don't believe that for a minute.

now if you are trying to count partials as schollys maybe you can get to a higher number.  but, that really is one of the main definitions between 1-a and 1-aa, the number of schollys

[billybob]

I honestly can not believe this thread is still going on. I started it to get the opinion of all the synder supporters and it has taken on a life of its own. over 1800 views and nearly 170 post on one thread. wow. Herd fans really are passionate.

[marshallsoccer]

For the 1995 and 1996 seasons we were allowed to bump up to 85 scholarships, we were still limited by the annual no more than 25 new counters rule. Now the rule is you spend 2 years (like WKU is doing) as a transitional school where you are allowed to bump up to 85 scholarships, but are still limited to 25 new counters per year.

[HerdAlum00_01]

I honestly can not believe this thread is still going on. I started it to get the opinion of all the synder supporters and it has taken on a life of its own. over 1800 views and nearly 170 post on one thread. wow. Herd fans really are passionate.

Congrats billybob, I think this thread has covered just about everything  :P.  Maybe if it keeps going we'll get to basketball and some other sports, lol.

[field pass]

I hope Donnie Jones turns out to be a good hire.  I think he will be a better hire than Snyder, no doubt, and he definitely is bringing a more exciting game philosophy to Huntington. 

I feel optimistic that he will be moving things in the right direction from the get go. Plus, he teaches an exciting brand of bball.  The bball season could be just what the doctor ordered to refresh our outlook.

[Massherdfan]

I hope Donnie Jones turns out to be a good hire.  I think he will be a better hire than Snyder, no doubt, and he definitely is bringing a more exciting game philosophy to Huntington. 

I feel optimistic that he will be moving things in the right direction from the get go. Plus, he teaches an exciting brand of bball.  The bball season could be just what the doctor ordered to refresh our outlook.

DJ did the smart thing and went out and hired quality proven assistant coaches. Something Snyder didn't do and it shows. You would think that at least Snyder's guys would be able to break down film on the opposition seeing that is all they had on their resume when they were hired by Snyder.

[HerdAlum00_01]

LOL....there we go.

[goherd17]

Mass. I have a question for you.  I know you live in Mass. and dont get to attend many games.  But if you lived within a couple of hrs would you still attend the games with your beloved coach snyder as the coach?  Just curious.  Also I was on a plane out of Charleston after the WVU game with a architect from Boston that was at the game just wondering if that was you?

[Massherdfan]

To answer your first question, of course I would be at every game... Now would I be happy w/ what I was watching, NO. 

Wasn't me, I'm not an architect. I'm in the E-Commerce business.

[goherd17]

Well I'm glad you would still attend even though we are loosing.  I dont like the situation we are in myself and I know coach Snyder has made some mistakes lets just hope it gets better.  I just want him to succeed so bad since he played for the herd.

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i don't believe that for a minute.

now if you are trying to count partials as schollys maybe you can get to a higher number.  but, that really is one of the main definitions between 1-a and 1-aa, the number of schollys

From the NCAA bylaws and rules.:

15.5.5.2 Championship Subdivision Football. [FCS] There shall be an annual limit of 30 on the number
of initial counters (per Bylaw 15.02.3.1), an annual limit of 63 on the value of financial aid awards (equivalencies)
to counters, and an annual limit of 85 on the total number of counters (including initial counters) in football
at each football championship subdivision institution. (Revised: 1/10/91 effective 8/1/92, 12/15/06)

[The Decorator]

Pruett did fine with the transition from IAA to the MAC, and the move from the MAC to CUSA is a much less dramatic transition than moving divisions.  Snyder has proven nothing and does not deserve another year.  THis is a business, and if you have 3 straight years of running in the red, you will get removed.  Look at Citigroup.  Case in point.  Move on.

[2xBison]

thanks photo.

like i said, i do not believe we had 85 in 95 or 96.  i just don't have time to research it.  i also recall something about Boise St in 95, how they weren't eligible or something like that due to the added schollies prior to thier move.  i just can't recall for sure and too lazy or busy to look it up