Topic: Pastilong firm on 2-for-1 with MU...

[GreenSteve]

WEST VIRGINIA athletic director Ed Pastilong has been moving around at a pretty good clip lately.

A luncheon meeting Tuesday. Fund-raising in Martinsburg and Bluefield.

The AD, though, isn't moving anywhere on the subject of football negotiations for future games with Marshall.

"We've had discussions with Marshall," said the Mountaineer AD. "Our position is we want 2-for-1. If they'd agree, we'd go ahead and sign.''

WVU wants two home games for every one played in Huntington after the current contract expires in 2012.

"Being self-supporting, we must have seven home games,'' Pastilong emphasized.

WVU has been loading up on one-for-one deals of late. The school will finish with Colorado and Auburn this coming season. Teams like Florida State, LSU and Michigan State are on the horizon.

What's caught the eye of MU athletic director Bob Marcum, though, is the one-for-one deal with East Carolina, a Conference USA peer of the Thundering Herd. If ECU can get such a deal with the Mountaineers, why can't Marshall?

"I have no response to that,'' Pastilong said.

http://www.wvgazette.com/Sports/WVU/200905120885

[The Right Stuff]

This series will end.  I am not all that sad.  MU must move on.

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[HerdHead]

Good to hear they're still self-supporting  ::)

The series won't end.  MU wants a 1-1; wvu wants a 2-1.  Manchin will come in and force a compromise at 3-2.

[scherd]

I, for one, will not miss the series or their fans.

[muherd34]

I think that it should be a 1for1, the whole self supporting, stadium size, non competitive series, blah blah blah is crap.  End the series, we were just fine with out them and if we get a administration that isn't scared to play the big boys they will come to huntington.  WVU=REPLACABLE.

[2xBison]

put Fast Eddie under oath and ask him if they're self supporting.

[W0lfman]

No %^&* put the guy under oath and see what he says.  as for a 3-2 I'd jump on it.

[marshalljeff]

Don't need 'em, don't want 'em.

[Blade]

Pastalong Deposition

Q    What kind of annual budget does the university give the athletic department for those roughly 200 people?

A     Well, our athletic department budget is in the area of $48 million.

Q     Okay.  And, of that $48 million, how much comes from the State of West Virginia, or does it all come from the State of West Virginia?

A     Well, portions of it come from the State of West Virginia, and portions come from contributors, foundation.

Q     And, for the jury, give me a rough approximation what percentage comes from the university, and what percentage -- or the state, and what percentage comes from the foundation?

A     Well, I would say the majority comes from the state, and then the second most would be from the foundation, and there are moneys that come from our particular conference via television revenues, et cetera.

Q     And out of the 48 million, what would be an approximation that would come from the foundation; 10,15  20 million, or something between those two numbers?

A     Something between those two.

Q     On an annual basis?

A     On an annual basis.

Yep.  Self-supporting if the state taxpayers feed your bank account.

[scherd]

Blade you need to send that post to Vingle and see how he spins it or if he will do anything with it.

[herd2win]

Do not sign anything less than a 3-2.  No way sign a 2-1 deal.  I would rather see other BCS teams come to Huntington then to put up with WVU crap and fill their stadium.  I hope the new AD has a pair and stands up to this crap.  Stop playing them in every sport then.

[D Train]

We have paid our dues with a 5 for 2 with them.  No other school in the country would have agreed to that deal even if we had the potential of 4 for 3.  1 for 1 or no deal.  Self supporting my ass, we will see Manchin's true feelings about this series on how he mediates these games.

[lexkyherdfan]

I think the game should be played and should be a 1-1.  We should absolutely not agree to a 2-1.  With the way things are now we have two more trips after next year to the Hole before a new deal would start.  It has to be a 1-1 with use getting the home game in 2013.  This game is good for both schools.  I always thought it should be played but the more I hear fast Eddie speak to more I am starting to think the heck with them.  With any luck we will have a new proactive AD in the office soon and he will get other regional BCS teams on the schedule.  Not having that game will allow us another open spot on our schedule to feel with whoever we like.

I honestly would rather have long term series with UC, UofL or UK.  Heck I wish we could feel our out of conference schedule with a combination of these three teams every year.  Shoot I would even throw in Vanderbilt and Indiana.  Those are all close schools that are close to WV.

Self supporting  ??? ??? ???  I am sure he said that with a straight face.

[luvherd]

So I guess they couldn't let MU alternate with ECU at home.

[Thundering In MD]

I'm just waiting for the press release that says that we have bought out of this year's game with WVU, which will be replaced by Akron.  Snyder and Marcum have until June to make it happen.

On a serious note, I never wanted to play WVU to begin with.

[svherd]

Don't care either way.

[robowski]

Good riddance! Take your T-P-T (trailer-park-trash) and stay out of our town. I hate morgantown - i wouldn't stop there to take a dump.
I say ditch the damn capitol classic too - i'm tired of catering to all the wvu lovers in the legislature!

[biggreenarms]

I say end it. We had our shot and I would rather see some 1-1 deals with other BCS teams. Just make sure there is a stipulation that they can't be canceled. ::)

[MUsince96]

"Being self-supporting, we must have seven home games,'' Pastilong emphasized.

"It's not a lie, if you believe it." - George Costanza

[HerdNerd in Cincy]

3-for-2 turns into a 6-for-4 and a 9-for-6.  More games go there the longer you play it.

[sdfgoherd]

We are not in a strong position in these negotiations.  I believe in 1 for 1 and anything less we should just say no. No big deal, no press conference, no "get a dog comments."  Just let it die and move on.  We need to focus on a dynamic AD that can lead us to bigger and better things - which means increased athletic budget that supports our programs and affords up top notch coaches.  Go back to WVU in about 8 years when we are in a strong position - bigger budget, more seating capacity, conference championships, bowl wins.  I love Marshall and I am really not interested in having a "penn state" series with WVU where we win once out of 30 tries.  It doesn't serve us well. 

I would like to see the new AD set forth some public measures - budget size, seating capacities, W/L records of programs, conference championships, NCAA appearances, etc.  Something to go for and bring us fans along.  Leadership, vision - I am desparate for some open, honest, visionary leadership that tells us where we want to go and how we are all part of getting there.

[NewfieHerdFan]

Play the 2-1. They're hoping we won't accept the offer and will quit playing them altogether. "Well...we tried and Marshall refused" will be there response to the situation. WVU knows Manchin doesn't want the series to die. They're hoping Marshall's administration gets frustrated and ends the series. Smile..sign on the dotted line...and play the game. Once we beat them on the field, opinions will gradually start to change. Personally, I've always wanted to see the series played and I don't want it to end and we not win at least one game. We've been down for the last four years...we will bounce back. The cyclical nature of college football leads me to believe our time is just around the corner.......

[Thunders]

Keeping this game is a must. Just because we have been on a downward trend doesn't mean we should cancel the series. It should be played and a 3-2 would be a good deal. Eventually when we can make it competitive then we will have more power to negotiate a 1-1.  We just haven't been competitive under Snyder for many games at all, let alone WVUs greatest football teams they have ever had.

No question this game should be played. Eventually we will compete with them once we get a new coach and a proactive AD to run things. We will be back on top one day and I want to be there when we are playing WVU and beating them regularly. We need an instate rival like everyone else has and WVU fans will shut their trap once we start beating them. If we end the series now we have given up and that is exactly what the WVU fans want. We can't let them win this battle. Once we compete with them, then we can negotiate a home and home series.

[jocktalker]

I agree that Marshall must continue the series--especially if Chuck's report that MU is running a $2million deficit.  Even a 2 for 1 series makes sense because no other team beside WVU can generate as much revenue or excitement in Huntington.

People who think that Marshall can replace WVU with another big name BCS school on the schedule are just unrealistic, IMO.

[W0lfman]

I dont know about that Jock.  I think there are several schools in the area that could easily sellout the stadium and draw serious interest from our fans.  The only problem with that is it doesnt seem like our coach and AD give to much of a damn about playing any of them.  Another thing, some fans have been saying they dont want us to play wvu because we can go get another regional BCS opponent to Huntington.  The fact is  no we cant.  If we could we'd have done it by now...dont you think?