Topic: big green/dshoe

[banker]

Internet tough guys are SO cool. ::) ::)

At least I'm cool somewhere...you, not so much unless there is a planet called "Blind Loyalty in the Face of Overwhelming Facts That You are Wrong World".  If that is the case you are the coolest guy there.

[Slice11]

pulling money will only hurt the programs more, if you pull now, you shouldn't donate again.

[field pass]

pulling money will only hurt the programs more, if you pull now, you shouldn't donate again.

the fear of money being pulled is exactly what will help the program recover because it will force change.  On the other hand, giving more and more money for Marcum to burn or for Snyer to buy more pink range rovers with while he continues on into 6, 7, and 8th losing seasons isnt going to help the program.  Once Snyder is canned you shouldnt be allowed to come to a home game ever again.  Loser!

You can just pick up and follow Snyder where ever he goes and watch him as the assistant waterboy coach somewhere.

[Slice11]

the fear of money being pulled is exactly what will help the program recover because it will force change.  On the other hand, giving more and more money for Marcum to burn or for Snyer to buy more pink range rovers with while he continues on into 6, 7, and 8th losing seasons isnt going to help the program.  Once Snyder is canned you shouldnt be allowed to come to a home game ever again.  Loser!

You can just pick up and follow Snyder where ever he goes and watch him as the assistant waterboy coach somewhere.

FP you're a %^&*ing idiot.  Do you read posts or just make them up as you go? Its not enough that you make up stories to get a rise out of people but then you read posts from someone else and than put your own twist on it.  How in the hell do you think by pullling money that is going to HELP the university?  It'll take the next coach or AD years to get that support back so we'll be in the same position even if we didn't have Snyder. 

And since I will continue to support the kids, program and university I am a loser and should not come to any more home games.  REAL INTELLIGENT!!!

[ichor]

Here's my question/statement and maybe someone can help me or the Big Green.

In 2006, I gave money to the BG. Not a lot, but it was a start. The next year, I'm willing to give three times as much, but I don't receive a letter, email or phone call requesting I reup.

Year 2 and still nothing.

Is the BG waiting for me to get in touch with them to give my money? Seems to me it should be the other way around...

[Slice11]

Here's my question/statement and maybe someone can help me or the Big Green.

In 2006, I gave money to the BG. Not a lot, but it was a start. The next year, I'm willing to give three times as much, but I don't receive a letter, email or phone call requesting I reup.

Year 2 and still nothing.

Is the BG waiting for me to get in touch with them to give my money? Seems to me it should be the other way around...

I have never gotten a call either.  When I renew my tickets they take it out automatically.  I mail mine in with my card info.

[herdfan429]

I agree the big green does a TERRIBLE job with contacting donors.  I just donated about a month ago.  Its not that hard to send out an email saying thanks for donating we appreciate your help with marshall athletics.  That would go a LOOOOONG way

[ichor]

I just think the BG is missing out on a lot of donations (maybe not the big-pocket kind) but of a grassroots type deal. Ask the Obama administration if it turned down any donation.

And with me being 4.5 hours away, like a lot of other people, I can't just drop by the BG office and cut a check.

[banker]

FP you're a %^&*ing idiot.  Do you read posts or just make them up as you go? Its not enough that you make up stories to get a rise out of people but then you read posts from someone else and than put your own twist on it.  How in the hell do you think by pullling money that is going to HELP the university?  It'll take the next coach or AD years to get that support back so we'll be in the same position even if we didn't have Snyder. 

And since I will continue to support the kids, program and university I am a loser and should not come to any more home games.  REAL INTELLIGENT!!!

When your kid doesn't do their chores is it a good idea to not pay them their allowance?  If you have an employee underperform is it a good idea not to pay them a bonus?  Of course the answer to both these is yes.  It's called negative reinforcement and it is intended to change behaviour.  If you don't change the pay structure the child or the employee has no incentive to alter their behaviour because they get the same reward no matter what.

As fans we really have no say in the decision making process but we can give feedback to what we think of the process in the form of our attendance or our financial support.  If we don't give any negative feedback when we don't like something then the administrative has no incentive to alter their behaviour.

Our athletic department and the Big Green do so much to alienate the fan base it is unreal.  Maybe a fairer statement is they don't do anything to make you feel a part of the program.  As has been mentioned here a lot of it is really easy stuff, an email or letter within a week of receiving a donation, an electronic message that details where we are with fundraising, what the goal for the year is, how the money is spent.  Start a building fund with specific goals and the projects it will fund, update people on the progress.  We are all stakeholders in Marshall athletics, we should all be informed.

[Slice11]

When your kid doesn't do their chores is it a good idea to not pay them their allowance?  If you have an employee underperform is it a good idea not to pay them a bonus?  Of course the answer to both these is yes.  It's called negative reinforcement and it is intended to change behaviour.  If you don't change the pay structure the child or the employee has no incentive to alter their behaviour because they get the same reward no matter what.

As fans we really have no say in the decision making process but we can give feedback to what we think of the process in the form of our attendance or our financial support.  If we don't give any negative feedback when we don't like something then the administrative has no incentive to alter their behaviour.

Our athletic department and the Big Green do so much to alienate the fan base it is unreal.  Maybe a fairer statement is they don't do anything to make you feel a part of the program.  As has been mentioned here a lot of it is really easy stuff, an email or letter within a week of receiving a donation, an electronic message that details where we are with fundraising, what the goal for the year is, how the money is spent.  Start a building fund with specific goals and the projects it will fund, update people on the progress.  We are all stakeholders in Marshall athletics, we should all be informed.

I understand your opinion and thats fine, you're allowed to have it.  My opinion is if you aren't going to donate during the bad times, you shouldn't donate during the good ones.

I may get to a point someday when I think I've had enough, and I'll stop donating.  Doesn't mean I won't still follow the teams, I just won't give anymore money.

[herdfan429]

I understand your opinion and thats fine, you're allowed to have it.  My opinion is if you aren't going to donate during the bad times, you shouldn't donate during the good ones.

I may get to a point someday when I think I've had enough, and I'll stop donating.  Doesn't mean I won't still follow the teams, I just won't give anymore money.

So why are you getting on to people that have already reached that point?

[Slice11]

So why are you getting on to people that have already reached that point?

Thats not what they are saying.  They are saying they will donate again once Snyder is gone, which in my eyes, doesn't do anything to help the athletic department.  If I ever decide to stop donating I wont start again just because I get what I want, I'll be done for good. 

[Oh Herd CR]

As fans we really have no say in the decision making process but we can give feedback to what we think of the process in the form of our attendance or our financial support.  If we don't give any negative feedback when we don't like something then the administrative has no incentive to alter their behaviour.

Our athletic department and the Big Green do so much to alienate the fan base it is unreal.  Maybe a fairer statement is they don't do anything to make you feel a part of the program.  As has been mentioned here a lot of it is really easy stuff, an email or letter within a week of receiving a donation, an electronic message that details where we are with fundraising, what the goal for the year is, how the money is spent.  Start a building fund with specific goals and the projects it will fund, update people on the progress.  We are all stakeholders in Marshall athletics, we should all be informed.

You are right. We have no say in the decision making process.  So why beat your head against the decision making wall?  We also don't have any say in recruiting or play calling.  So are you just going to quit going?  I mean sersiously.

I'd guess that you were not at the Big Green dinner last night.  I didn't see anyone in that sea of green grinning folks that would indicate that they felt alienated.

Go Herd!
 

[ichor]

So now it's year No. 3 and i've yet to hear anything from the Big Green.

I'm sure there's a lot of people like me who want to give. Even in this economic downturn, I want to give extra.

I know there's been a lot of shake-up at the BG, but there's a lot of donations they are pissing away. IMO...

[TomorrowHERD]

Same here Ichor.  I gave $300-$500 every year for about 16 years.  Stopped 3 years ago, and I have herd nothing from them.  Same address, same phone number, same email.  It is like they are not even trying...