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Offline W0lfman

Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
« on: August 03, 2009, 09:39:57 PM »
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  • Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    by James Roach (Contributor)

     
    You can get away with a lot of things, if that is all it looks like you know how to do. That was what I heard someone say once, and in my time on this planet, I have noticed that to be a constant.

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    Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
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    Offline clovenhoof

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #1 on: August 03, 2009, 09:58:09 PM »
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  • I'd say this guy is wrong.
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    Offline DJdaHERDfan

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #2 on: August 03, 2009, 10:12:26 PM »
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  • If we go to a bowl game, Snyder is here to stay. period.

    Another 4 or 5 win season, and Snyder is gone.

    Yes, the expextations should be higher. But I guarantee you all that a 6-6 bowl game season will be considered valuable progress.
    Unless Hamrick has a special coach he wants in here, this will be the case.

    Because if Hamrick has someone in mind for the job, then Snyder might be gone after this season unless he he wins CUSA.  jmo
    IT'S TAILGATING SEASON!
     

    Offline phillyherdfan

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #3 on: August 03, 2009, 10:54:23 PM »
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  • This guy is stating what we all hoped would be true... and if there was some semblance of improvement year over year, this guy's drivel may have merit. 

    Someone may bring up that the teams grades are better overall... which, obviously, is important.  But, in regards to playing the game, motivating the kids, making good coaching calls, and staying out of trouble... no contest.  The sad truth of it is there has been no improvement... period.  Not on the field, not on the sidelines, not off the field.... none, zero, zilch.  I cannot point to one thing (other than grades) and say we're better than we were the year before Synder came. 

    I sure hope this is the year the the possum steps up and proves me wrong.

    Philly

     

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    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #4 on: August 04, 2009, 12:54:37 AM »
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    Well....

    He does play dead on the road.

     ;D
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    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #5 on: August 04, 2009, 01:45:18 AM »
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  • The picture of him looks like he's smooching the headset microphone.
    Poor headset microphone...
     

    Offline DJdaHERDfan

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #6 on: August 04, 2009, 01:50:51 AM »
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  • lol

    Ya know, honestly, I really want Snyder to have a big year just to see all the Snyder haters/bashing(including myself) turn into Snyder jock riders.  LMAO

    And then we will see all the posts trying to clean it up and saying crap like "I always wanted Snyder here blah blah"...and "I knew he would turn it around all along blah blah".  LOL
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    Offline _sturt_

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #7 on: August 04, 2009, 03:58:27 AM »
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  • Think Chuck Landon, Jr.... looking for the clever angle that no one else has thought of... and if they had, decided it better to just not write it out for everyone else to see.

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    Marshall fans have expected the prominence of the last decade to have continued through these years, but it did not. Coach Snyder may have known what he was working with and knew it was going to be a longer turnaround than expected...

    The problems facing The Thundering Herd were not going to disappear overnight, and I believe Snyder knew that. Animals have defense mechanisms and human beings are no different. Putting up a false front is one of the oldest tricks in the book...

    Going into the 2009 season, I feel, from what I have seen and heard, Snyder knows a lot more than he wants everyone else in Huntington, WV, and Conference USA to know.


    To the contrary, Snyder has never been particularly slow to mention the challenges he faced when he accepted the job; in fact, his enemies have used that against him, considering it little more than excuse-making.

    Hey, we all were young once. I cut the guy some slack, and admire the attempt. He probably has a good journalism future in front of him.

    Reality is, in case anyone would take that premise seriously, no one likes to see their credibility questioned, no matter what your job is. Right?

    If you're an attorney, if you're a physician, if you're an HR manager, if you're a teacher, if you're a mechanic, if you're a pastor, rabbi, priest, or oman... you take pride in the fact that you know your job well, and are repulsed by the idea that a client, a patient, an employee, a student, or a customer, or a lay person could ever sit in judgment of the way you do your job.

    And by extension, no one likes to see their credibility questioned when they've spent practically all of their life involved in that field at some level... this, by "experts" who, in truth, don't even barely have the credentials to work for a head coach, let alone be one.

    So, again, I compliment the out of the box thinking, but it's a theory that is the proverbial dog that doesn't hunt. Snyder wants to win in the worst way, worse than ever before, and that's saying something... he is, if nothing else, competitive. Not that that's enough, since after all, it is fundamental to the career path.

    Vis-a-vis, if he turns it around this year, it won't be as-if he purposely avoided hiring assistants he wanted or as-if he purposely wanted to play Bernie Morris all the years he did or wanted to play a redshirt freshman last season. It won't be as-if he was deliberately setting the bar low with the K-State fiasco, the USM fiasco, or any of the other fiascos often mentioned in Herd forums and in barber shops across the Tri-State. It won't be as-if he convinced Bradshaw to leave early, or as-if he set up certain players to get dismissed from the team so that he couldn't have them available on Saturdays.

    No. Not at all. He came here saying it was his dream job, to get to return to his alma mater and re-establish the program. While some may question Snyder's ability to get it done in the won-loss column, I've yet to see anyone propose that he has not been sincere and genuine in his desire to get it done. To propose that is to propose the stripping of all his dignity... though it is inadvertent, I'm sure, that is the end-sum of what Mr. Roach proposes here.

     

    Offline parshall2marshall

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #8 on: August 04, 2009, 06:04:43 AM »
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  • "I've yet to see anyone propose that he has not been sincere and genuine in his desire to get it done. To propose that is to propose the stripping of all his dignity... though it is inadvertent, I'm sure, that is the end-sum of what Mr. Roach proposes here."

    Reminds me of that early Star Trek NG episode where Cmdr. Data is practicing trying to laugh.

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    Offline W0lfman

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #9 on: August 04, 2009, 07:22:47 AM »
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    Well....

    He does play dead on the road.

     ;D
    Well played!   ;D

    Offline svherd

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #10 on: August 04, 2009, 08:46:25 AM »
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  • Yes, everyone wants him to fail, Marshall to lose every game, blah, blah, blah. Folks, no one here hates Snyder the man, some may not agree with his methods, but thats being a fan. If there is anyone on any MU board that has not been critical of Snyder, KO or Kopp at some point in time, I'd like to meet them. They are either the next coming of Christ, never played sports, or a big pussy.


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    Offline Big Ol' Hillbilly

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #11 on: August 04, 2009, 09:09:32 AM »
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  • Sturt wrote another unreadable novel in a thread. Imagine that!
     

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    Offline DJdaHERDfan

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #12 on: August 04, 2009, 09:15:20 AM »
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  • sturt loves to type! LOL :)
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    Offline dixie10

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    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #13 on: August 04, 2009, 09:36:32 AM »
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  • DJ I think the opinion you put out there about 6 wins is correct, and that drives me nuts. In a year where his players are in place, his assistants, and youth factor is gone, why is one non-losing season acceptable?

    Snyder is not the problem, he is doing the best he can do, the problem lays with the board of governors and Kopp!
     

    Offline mxman870

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #14 on: August 04, 2009, 10:05:06 AM »
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  • We can only hope he is soft playing his hand. For his sake he better be. :o
     

    Offline DJdaHERDfan

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #15 on: August 04, 2009, 10:24:34 AM »
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  • dixie10, I feel your frustration with the MU Administration.

    But it is what it is.
    A mees of a situation within the MU brass plus a peanut pay attitude plus the economic downturn all adds up to a 6 win regular season and bowl game goal for Snyder.

    It will have to take a totally tanked season for Snyder to be removed. jmo
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    Offline Thunders

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #16 on: August 04, 2009, 10:36:21 AM »
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  • dixie10, I feel your frustration with the MU Administration.

    But it is what it is.
    A mees of a situation within the MU brass plus a peanut pay attitude plus the economic downturn all adds up to a 6 win regular season and bowl game goal for Snyder.

    It will have to take a totally tanked season for Snyder to be removed. jmo

    That scares the hell out of me. Anything less than 8 wins should be considered failure under Snyder due to the fact that he has pointed to this year as being the year we turn things around. He has had no more than 5 wins in a season since he has been here and a 5th season at one win greater than that should NOT be acceptable. Just about any other school would can their coach for that. I just hope if it does happen that Hamrick has the balls to stand up to Kopp if that happens.
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    Offline _sturt_

    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #17 on: August 04, 2009, 11:17:34 AM »
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  • "I've yet to see anyone propose that he has not been sincere and genuine in his desire to get it done. To propose that is to propose the stripping of all his dignity... though it is inadvertent, I'm sure, that is the end-sum of what Mr. Roach proposes here."

    Reminds me of that early Star Trek NG episode where Cmdr. Data is practicing trying to laugh.

    p2m

    I'm wrong? You or others believe Snyder doesn't actually want to win?

     

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    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #18 on: August 04, 2009, 11:26:58 AM »
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  • Sturt wrote another unreadable novel in a thread. Imagine that!

    Hbilly, that you don't want to read it is fine... that's your choice. No skin off my butt either way. But for an insult to be effective, it must first be somewhat accurate. And, that you choose not to read it is only a commentary on your own motivation and intelligence, since, obviously, it's written in fairly plain English with no words beyond a 7th grade comprehension level.

    Hope the above is "readable."  :-*  I know from your other posts that it is--you are, after all, educated.
     

    Offline _sturt_

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    « Reply #19 on: August 04, 2009, 11:32:17 AM »
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  • sturt loves to type! LOL :)

    Let's just say, DJ, I prefer to get things out all at once. Hence, my miniscule 2000-something posts, about half of the output of someone else who, it could be said, "likes to type." *wink*
     

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    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #20 on: August 04, 2009, 11:40:00 AM »
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  • Yes, everyone wants him to fail, Marshall to lose every game, blah, blah, blah. Folks, no one here hates Snyder the man, some may not agree with his methods, but thats being a fan. If there is anyone on any MU board that has not been critical of Snyder, KO or Kopp at some point in time, I'd like to meet them. They are either the next coming of Christ, never played sports, or a big @#$%y.

    sv, we're old friends, so I'm uncertain... is this directed at something I said, or something that Roach wrote? If the answer is the former, I'm not sure how it's relevant, since I didn't allege any of this ... if the latter, I'm not sure that Roach would argue, as he admits to having been critical.
     

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    Re: Mark Snyder: Playing Possum
    « Reply #21 on: August 04, 2009, 12:28:01 PM »
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  • LOL  -  Hillbilly, better watch out, you're about to be labeled.
     

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    « Reply #22 on: August 04, 2009, 12:30:46 PM »
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  • carry on, sturt, carry on. lol
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    Offline Big Ol' Hillbilly

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    « Reply #23 on: August 04, 2009, 01:36:17 PM »
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  • Let's just say, DJ, I prefer to get things out all at once. Hence, my miniscule 2000-something posts, about half of the output of someone else who, it could be said, "likes to type." *wink*


    QUICK! Somebody get a dictionary! Sturt's using big words again! He used "miniscule". He's so smart. Write us another novel in a different thread and incorporate the phrase "faux pas". Please?
     

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