Topic: SHR- Who wants to adopt Markel Humphrey's Dog?

[MUtim]

Alright Herd fans....who has been wanting a dog?   One of our sons of Marshall, Markel Humphrey, is in a pickle with his dog and now he wants a good home for it.  As many of you know, he plays professionally overseas....and he has had an extremely difficult time getting his dog to Europe.  It has came to the point that he has decided that maybe Europe is not the best place for his dog...and he would like for someone....a HERD fan...to adopt his dog.

He has all the papers and shot records, which are up to date.  The dog is currently around 7 months old and 50 lbs.  The vet seems to think that she will grow another 10-15 lbs.  This is obviously not a lap dog, so hopefully whomever adopts it will have a nice yard for her to play in.  It is a very friendly dog and gets along well with children and other dogs.

If you are interested.  Shoot me an email to goherd989@yahoo.com and I will send you some pics of Markel holding your new dog!

[HerdBlizz]

Let me throw out a guess and say the breed is a PIT- BULL

[bbcard1]

Pit bulls have an undeserved reputation of being aggressive.  They are protective and strive to please their owner...in fact were originally bred as nanny dogs.  You are quite likely to find this to be a wonderful dog for you.

[Big Ol' Hillbilly]

Pit bulls have an undeserved reputation of being aggressive.  They are protective and strive to please their owner...in fact were originally bred as nanny dogs.  You are quite likely to find this to be a wonderful dog for you.

Just me, but I would not trust one as far as I could pick it up and throw it.

[MUtim]

Incorrect answer!  To be honest, I do not know the breed.  Its a pretty dog, but I would say it is Heinz 57.  Definitely does not look like it's got any pit-bull in it.

[HerdBlizz]

Pit bulls have an undeserved reputation of being aggressive.  They are protective and strive to please their owner...in fact were originally bred as nanny dogs.  You are quite likely to find this to be a wonderful dog for you.

Here is the rankings of dangerous dogs and NUMBER 1 is?

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1, Pit Bull
Varieties included: Pit Bull, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, American StaffordshireTerrier
Registered dogs (U.S.): 2,683
Child victims: 661
Adult victims: 519
Maimings: 819
Deaths: 159

[HerdBlizz]

I was just throwing out smack is all......I've got one dog don't need another....Somebody will give it a good home though...

[herd2win]

Pit bulls have an undeserved reputation of being aggressive.  They are protective and strive to please their owner...in fact were originally bred as nanny dogs.  You are quite likely to find this to be a wonderful dog for you.

I would disagree....you never hear of a poodle, lab or collie attacking people or other dogs.  Take a look at the stats on dogs and attacks and it is pretty much pit bulls and then all other breads of dogs.  They have earned their rep.

[bbcard1]

minimal research will let you know, assuming it is a pitbull, whether it might be right for you or not.  I would not be uncomfortable with a pit in my home, but my kids are bigger.  The are strong dogs and they have a strong drive, but they are great for some folks.

[exanimate]

My sister has a pitbull and it's one of the sweetest dogs that I've ever met. She has two small children and the dog is as gentle as can be with them. It's how they are raised. You can make any dog mean.

[Big Ol' Hillbilly]

My sister has a pitbull and it's one of the sweetest dogs that I've ever met. She has two small children and the dog is as gentle as can be with them. It's how they are raised. You can make any dog mean.

No offense, exanimate, but I would be cautious. My first cousin had a dog that was considered to be an "aggressive" breed back in the 90's. It was sweet as sugar. It loved everybody and everything. It slept in the bed with him and all. One evening he came home and went in to feed it, and it's natural instincts took over. It tore my cousin up and put him in the hospital for no reason. Vets said it had nothing wrong with it, it just snapped one day.

Natural instincts are always there whether they ever come out or not. I have these 2 bassets. One is very young and active. I'm willing to bet that eventually her natural basset instincts will take over and she'll be so lazy I'll have to hold a mirror under her nose to make sure she's breathing.

[whf]

My Cocker Spaniel / Poodle mix attacked my wife and ripped her hand apart; and it was her dog, got it as a birthday present years before. You have to watch Cocker's mixed breeds as they get older; don't kid yourself.  They are a great breed and we did git another after many years.  IMHO, breeds don't make the dog mean, their environment and experiences do; things (just like us) that create their subconscious reactions and actions.

[mxman870]

As a long time owner/breeder or Rottweilers I have to throw in my .02. I gree with the others here that say its all about how you raise them. ALL dog breeds can bite. The difference between a Pit,,,Rotty,,,German Shepard,,,Mastiff is the power they posses. You dint get much news on poodle or Yorkie bites.

When I sold a pup I always screened the buyers and had a packet with training tips ready for them along with their registration papers. Any large breed should  be treated our trained and HAVE TO KNOW WHO THE BOSS or pack leader is. This is accomplished when they puppies and someone has to step up and be the leader and not the dog. I cringe to think how much damage a 150-160 lb Rott could do if let get very aggressive. Mine have all been the sweetest dogs  you could ever ask for. They are very loyal and protective animals and I admit I do not know what would happen if someone forced their way in my home. I know what I think would go down though.

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[herdman]

My sister has a pitbull and it's one of the sweetest dogs that I've ever met. She has two small children and the dog is as gentle as can be with them. It's how they are raised. You can make any dog mean.

Yehh, I had a cousin that had a pit bull just like that. Then, it dang near big their face off out of the blue. They were playing with it just like normal(after years) and it went nutso. That is the problem with pit bulls. They can go nutso for no reason.

[The Right Stuff]

Agree exanimate.  It is the way they are raised.  My friends Pit Bull will only lick you to death.  Any dog can turn bad if they are raised that way.  I have been bitten by a poodle when I was little and a lab just a few years ago. 

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[Dunk]

So are we trying to say that it is all about the way they are raised and not about the breed at all?

If that is the case then you would also have to be making this statement:

Pitbulls are treated poorly in a disproportionate amount in comparison to other breeds. People just naturally treat pitbulls worse than other breeds.

[The Right Stuff]

They are bred to be fighters by the Michael Vicks of the world.  They are raised to be agressive by many breeders.

TRS
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[wasbarryb]

As a long time owner/breeder or Rottweilers I have to throw in my .02. I gree with the others here that say its all about how you raise them. ALL dog breeds can bite. The difference between a Pit,,,Rotty,,,German Shepard,,,Mastiff is the power they posses. You dint get much news on poodle or Yorkie bites.

When I sold a pup I always screened the buyers and had a packet with training tips ready for them along with their registration papers. Any large breed should  be treated our trained and HAVE TO KNOW WHO THE BOSS or pack leader is. This is accomplished when they puppies and someone has to step up and be the leader and not the dog. I cringe to think how much damage a 150-160 lb Rott could do if let get very aggressive. Mine have all been the sweetest dogs  you could ever ask for. They are very loyal and protective animals and I admit I do not know what would happen if someone forced their way in my home. I know what I think would go down though.

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Mxman : you left Dobes off your list. Having had three Dobes I agree with you totally. There is no such thing as a vicious breed. Breeds are simply types of dogs and there is no such thing as unique breed behavioral characteristics. They’re all dogs period.

There is a unique breed of humans who feel the need to torture an animal to establish their toughness. These sick people buy a puppy of the vicious breed de jour and mistreat it until it becomes an antisocial beast. Such behavior is a sign of a sick human being. Unfortunately many breeds have been tainted by these sick SOBs Shepherds, Dobes, Rots, and now Pits have all been given undeserved reputations due to these degenerates. The third of my three Dobes was a rescue from one of these sick b@st@rds. It took a long time to bring her back to normal, but she turned out to the sweetest and gentlest of the three.

As for your thoughts about intruders; a story if I may. A friend of mine once wondered if my first Dobe would protect me if I appeared to be in danger. With my agreement he pushed me in front of Coffee (the dog’s name). Coffee’s response was to want to play. A few years later a jerk hit my parked car and refused to give any ID. After arguing loudly for several minutes to no end I threatened to call the police. At that point the guy stepped towards me with clinched fist. Coffee who had quietly watched the entire thing from inside the car made it clear at that point he had two objectives in life, 1) get out of the car, and 2) kill the guy. Rest assured your dogs are far more aware of what is going on in your presence and are more likely to make the right decisions when strength is needed.

[HerdBlizz]

I still don't want one...# S. fatal dog attacks occurred in 2011. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 650 U.S. cities, pit bulls led these attacks accounting for 71% (22). Pit bulls make up less than 5% of the total U.S. dog population.3
# Notably in 2011, adult victims of fatal pit bull attacks more than doubled the number of child victims. Of the 22 total pit bull victims, 68% (15) fell between the ages of 32 to 76, and 32% (7) were ages 5 years and younger.
# The year 2011 also marks an increase in pet pit bulls killing their owners. Of the 8 total instances this year in which a family dog inflicted fatal injury to its primary caretaker, the dog's owner, 88% (7) involved pet pit bulls.
# Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (4), the number two lethal dog breed, accounted for 84% of all fatal attacks in 2011. In the 7-year period from 2005 to 2011, this same combination accounted for 74% (157) of the total recorded deaths (213).
# The breakdown between pit bulls and rottweilers is substantial over this 7-year period. From 2005 to 2011, pit bulls killed 128 Americans, about one citizen every 20 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 29; about one citizen every 88 days.
# Annual data from 2011 shows that 58% (18) of the attacks occurred to adults (21 years and older) and 42% (13) occurred to children (11 years and younger). Of the children, 62% (8) occurred to ages 1 and younger.
# 2011 data also shows that 39% (12) of the fatal incidents involved more than one dog; 26% (8) involved breeding on the dog owner's property either actively or in the recent past, and 6% (2) involved tethered dogs, down from 9% in 2010 and 19% in 2009.
# Dog ownership information for 2011 shows that family dogs comprised 65% (20) of the attacks that resulted in death; 74% (23) of all incidents occurred on the dog owner's property and 29% (9) resulted in criminal charges, up from 15% in 2010.
# The states of California and Texas led fatalities in 2011, each with 4 deaths; pit bulls and their mixes contributed to 88% (7) of the 8 deaths. North Carolina, New Mexico, South Carolina and Virginia each incurred 2 deaths.

[bbcard1]

I still don't want one...# S. fatal dog attacks occurred in 2011. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 650 U.S. cities, pit bulls led these attacks accounting for 71% (22). Pit bulls make up less than 5% of the total U.S. dog population.3
# Notably in 2011, adult victims of fatal pit bull attacks more than doubled the number of child victims. Of the 22 total pit bull victims, 68% (15) fell between the ages of 32 to 76, and 32% (7) were ages 5 years and younger.
# The year 2011 also marks an increase in pet pit bulls killing their owners. Of the 8 total instances this year in which a family dog inflicted fatal injury to its primary caretaker, the dog's owner, 88% (7) involved pet pit bulls.
# Together, pit bulls (22) and rottweilers (4), the number two lethal dog breed, accounted for 84% of all fatal attacks in 2011. In the 7-year period from 2005 to 2011, this same combination accounted for 74% (157) of the total recorded deaths (213).
# The breakdown between pit bulls and rottweilers is substantial over this 7-year period. From 2005 to 2011, pit bulls killed 128 Americans, about one citizen every 20 days, versus rottweilers, which killed 29; about one citizen every 88 days.
# Annual data from 2011 shows that 58% (18) of the attacks occurred to adults (21 years and older) and 42% (13) occurred to children (11 years and younger). Of the children, 62% (8) occurred to ages 1 and younger.
# 2011 data also shows that 39% (12) of the fatal incidents involved more than one dog; 26% (8) involved breeding on the dog owner's property either actively or in the recent past, and 6% (2) involved tethered dogs, down from 9% in 2010 and 19% in 2009.
# Dog ownership information for 2011 shows that family dogs comprised 65% (20) of the attacks that resulted in death; 74% (23) of all incidents occurred on the dog owner's property and 29% (9) resulted in criminal charges, up from 15% in 2010.
# The states of California and Texas led fatalities in 2011, each with 4 deaths; pit bulls and their mixes contributed to 88% (7) of the 8 deaths. North Carolina, New Mexico, South Carolina and Virginia each incurred 2 deaths.

Are you familiar with the term "Google smart?"

[lexkyherdfan]

I am sure someone will take care of the dog. It will be nice for him to give it to a good owner.

As for Pitbulls?  I would never want any part of one of them. I was attacked from behind while playing pickup baseball. Had a chunk of my leg removed by the dog. No threat made. I was just walking up to bat.  Unreal pain.

[HerdBlizz]

Are you familiar with the term "Google smart?"

Why yes..That's the reason Al Gore invented the internet for isn't it.  Or where you really thinking I came up with all that myself..lol  

[HerdBlizz]

Whats worse then the debate over pitbulls is that's all we have to chat about after the a$$ reaming that Doc allowed the UCF pittbulls to do to our unprepared tea cup poodle team.

[Big Ol' Hillbilly]

I promise you that my cousin's rot that I mentioned earlier was treated like a child. He got him as a pet when it was a pup and he was a single man, so it was his constant companion. One day it snapped for no reason and my cousin got torn up pretty bad. With that being said, I'll stick to my basset hounds. Loving, loyal, and lazy with a stubborn streak.

[mxman870]

Mxman : you left Dobes off your list. Having had three Dobes I agree with you totally. There is no such thing as a vicious breed. Breeds are simply types of dogs and there is no such thing as unique breed behavioral characteristics. They’re all dogs period.

There is a unique breed of humans who feel the need to torture an animal to establish their toughness. These sick people buy a puppy of the vicious breed de jour and mistreat it until it becomes an antisocial beast. Such behavior is a sign of a sick human being. Unfortunately many breeds have been tainted by these sick SOBs Shepherds, Dobes, Rots, and now Pits have all been given undeserved reputations due to these degenerates. The third of my three Dobes was a rescue from one of these sick b@st@rds. It took a long time to bring her back to normal, but she turned out to the sweetest and gentlest of the three.

As for your thoughts about intruders; a story if I may. A friend of mine once wondered if my first Dobe would protect me if I appeared to be in danger. With my agreement he pushed me in front of Coffee (the dog’s name). Coffee’s response was to want to play. A few years later a jerk hit my parked car and refused to give any ID. After arguing loudly for several minutes to no end I threatened to call the police. At that point the guy stepped towards me with clinched fist. Coffee who had quietly watched the entire thing from inside the car made it clear at that point he had two objectives in life, 1) get out of the car, and 2) kill the guy. Rest assured your dogs are far more aware of what is going on in your presence and are more likely to make the right decisions when strength is needed.

I did leave Dobies off the list. Great dogs too. Your story about the rescue hit home with me. My son rescued a beautiful Siberian Husky. She had been beaten so bad she is blind in one eye and food deprived also. When he would come home for the weekends Layla would stay with us and our dogs. I Herd a commotion in the kitchen and went to check it out. Layla had bitten my daughter and wife. When I stepped in she turned on  me and you can figure how that went. When she was on the floor in front of my I have never saw so much evil on a dogs face. My first thought was I am going to kill that dog right now. I stated thinking how she was raised and felt bad so I changed my mind and started loving  all over her. We have had her over two years now (over a year here ) and she is sooooo sweet. Matter of fact she is out front in this nasty weather with a neighbors dog that needs a new home and she will not leave his side.  

Anyone want a sweet Golden Retriever that is almost two? If I didn't already have three large dogs he would live with us.