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« on: May 17, 2013, 07:45:52 AM »
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  • I have been audited twice in the past 3 years.   I'd never been audited before that. 
    I have a W2, 2 charities(church and united way), mortgage interest, 2 dependents (children-with SS#)
    real estate tax and a small stock account.  No off shore accounts, No tax shelters, no real money, etc.  I'm
    like a whole bunch of us out there.   

    Both audits resulted in money back.  I guess I should have been thankful but the stress and expense they put me through was pretty incredible.  It made me realize that we aren't really the "land of the free".   I had to get a tax attorneys advice and had to gather records going back 7 years.   

    These people should lose their jobs and their pensions.   The leaders should go to jail.  They've obviously done this to a lot of people and it's just getting out.   More will come out if they can get a special invetigator looking at this.   

    This article in the WSJ kind of sums it up.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323582904578487460479247792.html
    “This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future.” —Adolf Hitler, 1935

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution: "Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States."
     

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    « Reply #1 on: May 17, 2013, 08:16:12 AM »
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  • I'm with you. We made a small error on our return s few years ago and was audited.since then I've been audited every year. It's like one you're in their radar, they're out to catch you doing something. Think I'll just become unemployed so they'll leave me alone.

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  • I have been audited twice in the past 3 years.   I'd never been audited before that. 
    I have a W2, 2 charities(church and united way), mortgage interest, 2 dependents (children-with SS#)
    real estate tax and a small stock account.  No off shore accounts, No tax shelters, no real money, etc.  I'm
    like a whole bunch of us out there.   

    Both audits resulted in money back.  I guess I should have been thankful but the stress and expense they put me through was pretty incredible.  It made me realize that we aren't really the "land of the free".   I had to get a tax attorneys advice and had to gather records going back 7 years.   

    These people should lose their jobs and their pensions.   The leaders should go to jail.  They've obviously done this to a lot of people and it's just getting out.   More will come out if they can get a special invetigator looking at this.   

    This article in the WSJ kind of sums it up.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323582904578487460479247792.html
    Damn, that is crazy. Do you utilize tax "software"?? TurbTax ect.........
    No political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States and compounding the American people into one common mass.
    John Marshall (1755 - 1835)
     

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  • H&R Block tax software.   Can't remember what it's called.   Used if the last 6 years.   It proofs the math and any missed or double entered information.

    I also run it by my brother in law (a cpa but not a tax accountant).   

    Most people don't believe me when I tell them I'm audited or think I'm cheating or hiding an off shore account.  I've kind of learned to just hold my tounge. 

    I don't think I'm the only one this is happening to. 
    “This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future.” —Adolf Hitler, 1935

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution: "Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States."
     

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    Re: IRS
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  • H&R Block tax software.   Can't remember what it's called.   Used if the last 6 years.   It proofs the math and any missed or double entered information.

    I also run it by my brother in law (a cpa but not a tax accountant).   

    Most people don't believe me when I tell them I'm audited or think I'm cheating or hiding an off shore account.  I've kind of learned to just hold my tounge. 

    I don't think I'm the only one this is happening to. 
    Well, I'm gonna say its your tithing. I dont claim tithes, because I dont tithe, but do I use turbo tax (last year for that although) and always lowest possible audit risk on the sliding "rainbow"scale of criteria for audit. My charitable contributions or normally around 1k give or take. I am knockin on wood at this moment.
    No political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States and compounding the American people into one common mass.
    John Marshall (1755 - 1835)
     

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  • Not much above you on the tithing. 

    I'm embarrased to admit but I'm no where near the 10% the bible says you should give.
    3 college tuition payments made money real, real tight.

    I do have receipts going back 10 years on both these charities. 
    “This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future.” —Adolf Hitler, 1935

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution: "Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States."
     

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  • Not much above you on the tithing. 

    I'm embarrased to admit but I'm no where near the 10% the bible says you should give.
    3 college tuition payments made money real, real tight.

    I do have receipts going back 10 years on both these charities. 
    Maybe the bastards targeted you, because you may fit their "illegal" criteria for audit of "Conservo" or "Tea Party" supporters.
    No political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States and compounding the American people into one common mass.
    John Marshall (1755 - 1835)
     

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    The president, as usual, acts as if all of this is totally unconnected to him. He's shocked, it's unacceptable, he'll get to the bottom of it. He read about it in the papers, just like you.

    But he is not unconnected, he is not a bystander. This is his administration. Those are his executive agencies. He runs the IRS and the Justice Department.


    My mother was audited about two years ago, and it wasn't for anything the IRS found wrong on her return. They said it was a "random" audit. I don't recall her ever being audited before, and it wasn't cheap for her tax accountant to defend this so-called random audit. After about six months, they finally cleared my mother and said they couldn't find anything wrong.

    If Obama is an innocent bystander with these screw-ups going on around him, then he's been asleep at the wheel.

    And how's this for government cronyism:

    Sarah Hall Ingram Ran IRS During Tea Party Targeting, Now Runs Affordable Care Act Office

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    The Internal Revenue Service official in charge of the tax-exempt organizations at the time when the unit targeted tea party groups now runs the IRS office responsible for the health care legislation.

    Regardless of one's political affiliation, when the most feared and powerful entity in government targets any group, then there is great cause for concern.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323582904578487460479247792.html

    http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/05/sarah-hall-ingram-ran-irs-during-tea-party-targeting-now-runs-affordable-care-act-office-2644040.html
     

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  • Sarah Hall Ingram Ran IRS During Tea Party Targeting, Now Runs Affordable Care Act Office

    Regardless of one's political affiliation, when the most feared and powerful entity in government targets any group, then there is great cause for concern.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323582904578487460479247792.html

    http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/05/sarah-hall-ingram-ran-irs-during-tea-party-targeting-now-runs-affordable-care-act-office-2644040.html

    I've heard the comments this guy is "tone deaf" or just not aware what's going on.   I don't think that's it at all.  I think he thinks he's above the law and I think his regime thinks the same thing.   He's probably right as he pretty much does whatever he wants.  People get all upset if you reference him as a dictator or ruler but in the end it's all just semantics.  When you don't answer congressional inquiries and you don't report wrongdoing or errors in judment and label everything as "policital attacks" it's no different that being a monarch or a dictator.   

    My tax accountant bill for the audits was over $1100.   They did win in the end.   I now just take the standard exemption, closed out my stock account and do a 1040 EZ.  I do still give to the charities but don't expect any tax break.   Nothing left to audit.   It costs me about $900 a year in additional taxes but it's worth the mental stress relief.   
    “This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future.” —Adolf Hitler, 1935

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution: "Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States."
     

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    Re: IRS
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  • This was sent to me.   Chicago tribune editorial..


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    Chicago Tribune columnist John Kass says to the man he thinks will be the scapegoat for Obama in recent controversies, "Watch your back."
    John Kass
    May 19, 2013
    The Internal Revenue Service scandal now devouring the Obama administration — the outrageous use of the federal taxing authority to target tea party and other conservatives — certainly makes for meaty partisan politics.
    But this scandal is about more than partisanship. It's bigger than whether the Republicans win or the Democrats lose.
    It's even bigger than President Barack Obama. Yes, bigger than Obama.
    •   John Kass
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    •   Bio | E-mail | Recent columns

    It is opening American eyes to the fundamental relationship between free people and those who govern them. This one is about the Republic and whether we can keep it.
    And it started me thinking of years ago, of my father and my uncle in Chicago and how government muscle really works.
    Because if you want to understand The Chicago Way of things in Washington these days, with the guys from Chicago in charge of the White House and the federal leviathan, there's one place you start:
    You start in Chicago.
    My father and uncle ran a small business, a supermarket on the South Side. Uncle George worked in the front, my father in the butcher shop in the back. My uncle had been a teacher. My father had plowed his fields with a mule.
    They were immigrants who came here from Greece with nothing in their pockets but a determination to work, and the belief that here, in America, no other power could roll in with tanks and put their boots on the necks of their children.
    My father and uncle, like the rest of the family, valued education and books and free political debate. And so at large extended family Sundays, we'd all sit around the dinner table, many uncles and aunts and cousins, young and old.
    There were conservatives and socialists, Roosevelt Democrats and Reagan Republicans and a few bewildered, equivocal moderates in between, everyone squabbling, laughing, telling stories.
    No matter whose house we were visiting, the TV was never turned on after dinner. Instead, we'd have coffee and fruit and dessert and argument. We had different views, we loved each other, and even strangers who showed up were expected to join in, to debate education, the presidency, social issues, the war, drugs, bluejeans, long hair, baseball, everything.
    Uncle Alex was the uncle who told us young people how best to make our points. He ran a snack shop in the Bridgeport neighborhood — the legendary home of Chicago mayors and Democratic machine bosses.
    "Don't wait for a ticket," he'd say, and puff on his cigar, always in a white shirt and tie, on those family Sundays. So we'd just jump in when we could, like the rest.
    One Sunday, I must have been 12 or 13, I decided to ask what I thought was an intelligent question that was something like this:
    We talk politics every Sunday, we fight about this and that, so why aren't you politically active outside?
    Why don't you get involved in politics?
    There was an immediate silence. The older cousins looked away. The aunts and uncles stared at me in horror, as if I'd just announced I was selling heroin after school.
    You could hear them breathing. No one spoke. I could feel myself blushing.
    Someone quickly changed the subject to some safe old story. It could have been the one about how our grandfather named the family mule — a white, big-headed animal — after President Truman. My sin seemed forgotten.
    "Are you in your good senses?" said my father. "We have lives here. We have businesses. If we get involved in politics, they will ruin us."
    And no one, not the Roosevelt Democrats or the Reagan Republicans, disagreed. The socialists, the communists, the royalists, everyone nodded their heads.
    This was Chicago. And for a business owner to get involved meant one thing: It would cost you money and somebody from government could destroy you.
    The health inspectors would come, and the revenue department, the building inspectors, the fire inspectors, on and on. The city code books aren't thick because politicians like to write new laws and regulations. The codes are thick because when government swings them at a citizen, they hurt.
    And who swings the codes and regulations at those who'd open their mouths? A government worker. That government worker owes his or her job to the political boss. And that boss has a boss.
    The worker doesn't have to be told. The worker wants a promotion. If an irritant rises, it is erased. The hack gets a promotion. This is government.
    So everybody kept their mouths shut, and Chicago was hailed by national political reporters as the city that works.
    I didn't understand it all back then, but I understand it now. Once there were old bosses. Now there are new bosses. And shopkeepers still keep their mouths shut. Tavern owners still keep their mouths shut.
    Even billionaires keep their mouths shut.
    One hard-working billionaire whose children own the Chicago Cubs dared to open his mouth. Joe Ricketts considered funding a political group critical of Obama before last year's campaign. Mayor Rahm Emanuel, Obama's former chief of staff, made it clear that if the Cubs wanted City Hall's approval to refurbish decrepit Wrigley Field, Ricketts better back off.
    It happened. He backed off. It was sickening. But it was and is Chicago.
    And now — with the IRS used as political muscle and the Obama administration keeping that secret until after the president was elected — America understands it too.
    jskass@tribune.com
    Copyright © 2013 Chicago Tribune Company, LLC
    “This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future.” —Adolf Hitler, 1935

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution: "Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States."
     

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