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H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
« on: June 05, 2014, 05:32:04 AM »
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    President Barack Obama just might have to limit the carbon emissions coming from West Virginia University's athletic department.

    That's how significantly WVU is undermining the appropriately named Chesapeake Energy Capital Classic.

    Talk about strip mining.

    The Mountaineers are trying every devious trick imaginable in an attempt to bring an end to the annual games between the Marshall and WVU men's and women's basketball programs.

    First, WVU forced the series to move from its traditional spot in January to a much less attractive date in December for the 2012 Capital Classic.

    Marshall's options?

    There were none.

    MU officials could take it or leave it. But if the Herd chose "leave it," it would mean the end of the series. That, of course, is precisely what WVU wanted.

    Never mind that 18 of the previous 21 Marshall-WVU matchups had been played in the month of January with two in February and only one in December since the annual series moved to Charleston permanently in 1992.

    That didn't matter to the Mountaineers.

    What did matter?

    WVU's agenda to stop playing Marshall.

    That's why Marshall's officials swallowed hard and agreed to the move. It left a bitter taste in their collective palate, but it was for the greater good.

    So, the 2012 Capital Classic was played on Dec. 5 and, then, in 2013 on Dec. 14.

    Since the premise of forcing the annual game to be scheduled in December rather than January didn't bring about the demise of the series, it meant WVU's officials had to go back to the drawing board.

    This is their new idea.

    The 2014 Chesapeake Energy Capital Classic will be played on a Sunday.

    Yes, a Sunday.

    And a Sunday afternoon, at that, according to sources with knowledge of the scheduling.

    The annual Marshall-WVU men's basketball game is expected to tip off somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 p.m. or 4 p.m. on December 14 in the Charleston Civic Center Coliseum, according to sources.

    Why Sunday?

    Why else?

    It is a means for WVU to make this game even more unattractive.

    As it is, there has been a noticeable drop in attendance. When the Capital Classic was being played from 1999-2000 through the 2011-12 seasons where it belongs -- in the month of January and with the legislature usually in session -- the average attendance was 12,405. That's fairly impressive considering the seating capacity of the arena is 12,380.

    So, it was a sellout plus standing room only every year.

    But as soon as WVU mandated that the game had to be play in December -- or not at all -- the attendance dropped. In 2012, a crowd of 11,512 fans showed up to watch WVU defeat Marshall, 69-59, on Dec. 5. Then in 2013, Marshall lost to WVU, 74-64, before 11,410 fans on Dec. 14 -- a Saturday.

    That's when the slide began.

    Now, imagine how much more the attendance might fall with a Sunday afternoon tip-off. That date isn't good for the fans. It certainly isn't good for the game, either.

    That's a shame.

    And goodness only knows when the Marshall-WVU women's game will be held. It certainly won't be played as a Sunday doubleheader. It should rotate between Morgantown and Huntington as an on-campus game, anyway.

    The point, however, is why does WVU want to systematically diminish a game that is attractive and meaningful to the population of the entire state of West Virginia?

    That's like being against coal.

    http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/marshall/x271215159/WVU-still-doing-best-to-dodge-Marshall
     

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    H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
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    Offline W0lfman

    Re: H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
    « Reply #1 on: June 05, 2014, 09:01:06 AM »
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  • wvu hates instate competition and cant afford any black eyes from good ole MU.  especially now they since they're going to get their (@/:; bashed in every week playing in a conference way out of their league... which tickles the pee out of me.

    Offline Daherdboy

    Re: H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
    « Reply #2 on: June 05, 2014, 09:40:30 AM »
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  • They are still playing us on a home & home status in women's tennis and
    women's volleyball.

    And we are thumpin' their gourd.  They are catching up in volleyball but in
    tennis.....the Herd rules. 

    In volleyball it's getting closer and more competitive. 

    With a 5 STAR recruit coming in along with a very good eastern European in
    tennis, the Herd keeps reloading. (Hopefully the tennis team will have outside
    courts to practice on this fall.)
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    Offline HerdKelly

    Re: H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
    « Reply #3 on: June 05, 2014, 09:45:14 AM »
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  • I don't think Chuck has any argument on the January to December move.  January is during conference play.  It doesn't do anything to attendance and the schools can sell the tickets that would normally be given to the legislature. (politicians suck)


    The Sunday move MAY hurt attendance.  The attendance the last two years is a poor guage because both teams were bad.  I personally would rather go on a Sunday afternoon than a weeknight.  I realize I may be in the minority but works for me.


    But the biggest thing......  there is no more family friendly time for a game than the middle of the day on Sunday.  One less reason for some fans to use as an excuse not to go....
     

    Offline Luke80

    Re: H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
    « Reply #4 on: June 05, 2014, 10:01:30 AM »
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  • Really that article was pretty much a complete waste of ink. Chuck May be correct that WVU would like to get out of the game, but this move doesn't prove his point.
     

    Offline Big City

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    « Reply #5 on: June 05, 2014, 10:39:28 AM »
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  • Really that article was pretty much a complete waste of ink. Chuck May be correct that WVU would like to get out of the game, but this move doesn't prove his point.

    He just continues to stir the crap and speculate, which is the only thing he is decent at. (Speculation)
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    Offline mubowhunter

    Re: H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
    « Reply #6 on: June 05, 2014, 11:04:29 AM »
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  • I hope the university of wv falls off the face of the earth.  I'm at the point where I hope we never play them in any sport!
     

    Offline Thunders

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    « Reply #7 on: June 05, 2014, 12:19:31 PM »
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  • WV needs to concern themselves with the butt raping they will take again this year in football. Too bad we can't be a part of it.
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    Offline MarshallManiac

    Re: H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
    « Reply #8 on: June 05, 2014, 01:18:39 PM »
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  • They are still playing us on a home & home status in women's tennis and
    women's volleyball.

    And we are thumpin' their gourd.  They are catching up in volleyball but in
    tennis.....the Herd rules. 

    In volleyball it's getting closer and more competitive. 

    With a 5 STAR recruit coming in along with a very good eastern European in
    tennis, the Herd keeps reloading. (Hopefully the tennis team will have outside
    courts to practice on this fall.)

    Hasn't our volleyball beaten them like 14 out of the last 15 times they've played or something ridiculous like that?
     

    Offline svherd

    Re: H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
    « Reply #9 on: June 05, 2014, 01:34:40 PM »
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  • Actually a Sunday may not be bad. Most have the day off to drive up. Make a day of it. Chuck is becoming unreadable on most columns. Who cares when the women play, they slaughter us anyway.
    Truth be known, we should drop women's B'ball. It's our third highest budgeted sport with the least ROI. I know, it's a CUSA mandated sport.


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    Offline goherd24

    Re: H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
    « Reply #10 on: June 05, 2014, 01:36:10 PM »
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  • I don't think Chuck has any argument on the January to December move.  January is during conference play.  It doesn't do anything to attendance and the schools can sell the tickets that would normally be given to the legislature. (politicians suck)


    The Sunday move MAY hurt attendance.  The attendance the last two years is a poor guage because both teams were bad.  I personally would rather go on a Sunday afternoon than a weeknight.  I realize I may be in the minority but works for me.


    But the biggest thing......  there is no more family friendly time for a game than the middle of the day on Sunday.  One less reason for some fans to use as an excuse not to go....

    The move to December has unquestionably hurt attendance. Its obviously there in the official attendance numbers. I havent missed on in 6 years. The last 2 years, the attendance has been awful. Those 11k fogures are being generous. The upper bowl was very sparse.  And id wager there were maybe 2k herd fans at the last one (which given herrion and how terrible we were, thats understandable.)
     

    Offline goherd24

    Re: H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
    « Reply #11 on: June 05, 2014, 01:40:04 PM »
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  • Actually a Sunday may not be bad. Most have the day off to drive up. Make a day of it. Chuck is becoming unreadable on most columns. Who cares when the women play, they slaughter us anyway.
    Truth be known, we should drop women's B'ball. It's our third highest budgeted sport with the least ROI. I know, it's a CUSA mandated sport.

    And I agree on Sunday not being a problem. Espevially if it is at 2 or 3. Wont hurt church goers and its a weekend day. Problem is in december, everyones mind is still on football then, and there is still confusion out there around it. No reason to move it to Jan but give WVU an out. It was always played during conference play, after wvu lost a few they wanted out and wanted us to be the "reason" because we refused to move it. Huggins is a whinebag that brought it about. They are allowed 2 games to be ooc during conference play in the big 12.  But theyd rather play gonzaga and william and mary.
     

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    Offline Daherdboy

    Re: H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
    « Reply #12 on: June 05, 2014, 02:36:32 PM »
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  • Concerning volleyball, yes we've got a lopsided
    winning percentage, but their Big 12 membership
    is improving their recruiting.

    On the other hand, John Mercer's ability to bring
    in quality players greatly outshines the ones that
    are brought in to da  'hole in tennis.
    « Last Edit: June 05, 2014, 02:39:36 PM by Daherdboy »
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    Those 10 years have been marvelous.


     

    Offline Gaylen

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    « Reply #13 on: June 05, 2014, 04:18:51 PM »
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  • The Chickeneers are coming home to roost. Bawk, bawk, bawk. Good old yeller and blew. Cowardly Morganhole MFs.
     

    Offline mckayt

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    « Reply #14 on: June 05, 2014, 04:26:42 PM »
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  • The game on December 15 is a good thing for the Mountaineer fans.  It will give them something to look forward to during bowl season.
     

    Offline MUther

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    « Reply #15 on: June 06, 2014, 07:08:49 AM »
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  • After the coaching debacle and Chuck's attempt to give Marshall a black eye, I don't even read his articles, including this one.  IMO, he should have been fired, or at the very least told to no longer write about MU. 
     

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    Re: H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
    « Reply #16 on: June 06, 2014, 08:04:34 AM »
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  • Moving the game to a weekend has provide people from out of town a better chance to come.  I know 7 that went last year because it was on a weekend in December including myself.  I have determined it doesn't matter when it is Herd fans will not come.  They sit home and watch it on TV.  They wouldn't drive over for a Sat night game so there is no way they will make it for a Sunday afternoon game that is on TV locally...and only locally.

    WVU doesn't want the game just like they don't want it on anything but in the state of WV.  While the game might be a money maker for each school from a TV perspective...it is sad that both schools alumni across the country can't even watch the game on TV.  I believe last year it wasn't even on ESPN3.

    I will not be attending this year with the move to Sunday.
     

    Offline goherd24

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    « Reply #17 on: June 06, 2014, 09:06:40 AM »
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  • Ill be there. Along with the other 2000 herd fans. Regardless of day or time. But I wish it was in Jan.
     

    Offline MarshallSteve

    Re: H-D: Chuck Landon: WVU still doing best to dodge Marshall
    « Reply #18 on: June 06, 2014, 10:08:04 PM »
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  • After the coaching debacle and Chuck's attempt to give Marshall a black eye, I don't even read his articles, including this one.  IMO, he should have been fired, or at the very least told to no longer write about MU. 

    I'm done reading Chucks articles as well. Just like the Eers are "dodging Marshall" as Chuck claims.......MarshallSteve is dodging Chucks articles.
     

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