Thanks, elgin. Assuming you're right, what's different with that was that Hamrick didn't actually say anything that would have led anyone to believe it was something more than NCSU. So, while warry may have been disappointed, there wasn't anything he could point to and say Hamrick gave reason to think something better. In this case, the words of his comment suggests this one is going to exceed a 1/1 with Purdue, and so you almost have to be talking about some upper-crust program.